Are Air Barrels ever justified?
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I hear ya barkin'!SpiderWebComm said:
It's almost as though you could care less what her face looked like with a body like that! It's great being a pig sometimes isn't it?...LOL
Sounds like enabling to me...jay helfert said:I have to second what Dick said here. In the old days when we played someone, say for ten a game, and finally busted them for eleven or twelve games, we knew the "air barrel" was coming and we had to win that game too. It was all part of the "deal" between pool players. If a guy went broke, he got to take his air barrel shot at you. Not all players would do this, but many did, and it was accepted as something we had to deal with. Remember, a lot of the time, we were trying to keep these guys happy and coming back.
To top it off he might ask you for a "gapper" after you pay the time. This was a small loan so he had some money in his pocket. That was usually another ten or twenty bucks. So let's say you won $120 at ten a game, and got stiffed for the last game, so you were $110 winners. Now you had to pay $8 in time and loan the guy another $10. Your net win is $92. And that's the way it went a lot of the time, because one day the shoe could be on the other foot.
The only good news is that if the guy wanted to play you again, first he must pay back the loan, and you get the first game on the wire for the one he didn't pay you before. So it does eventually come back this way. And this is actually how things worked to a greater or lesser degree among real pool players. Now if you're in a strange town none of this holds water unless you play someone who knows you. And if I played a stranger who came into my room, he was absolutely posting!
I'll go even further here. When I played with a sucker (anyone who I could give weight to and rob easily), I would often let them cheat me. Yes, you heard me right. If I knew the guy was good for the money, if we were putting games on the wire, I would occasionally let them "steal" a game off the wire. Or maybe I would "forget" to mark one of my games. My opponent/mark would think he was getting away with something. But in reality he was just delaying the inevitable.
I even let guys steal balls from me in One Pocket. They never knew that I knew. It didn't matter, I was in total control of the game. I could win at will. You get my point. Sorry to say it, but I guess I was a bit of a hustler in that time.
If I had boobs like that, I'd rule the world.inside_english said:
The biggest win I ever had was in 1987 (I was a mere 20 years old and all of 150 lbs.) where I beat a reg for $600. I got n-o-t-h-i-n-g that night. Not a penny. Before you start thinking (only $600, please note I was never a big gambler...money did not come easy for me). I should have known better when he kept doubling the bet to try and get even (we started off at $2 per game nine ball, went to $5 and kept going until it was $40/game and I was 15 games ahead).corvette1340 said:
In hindsight there were many things I could have done, such as asking for him to post, declaring he pay up before we doubled up, etc.
But I was young, inexperienced and excited at being able to beat this guy who used to intimidate me on the table only months before.
Well, it is now 2008 and I still have not gotten all that money, actually not even half of it. It is funny to think about it now but back then I was enraged and felt like a total schmuck for being taken advantage of. The fact that I got nothing at all taught me that even if we had stopped with him being down only $20 I still would have gotten nothing. The guy purposely air-barrelled me because he thought I had no chance of winning!
So once again, air barrels are bad for everyone, and the game. I don't care about the way it was done with all you big-time gamblers and roadies.
streak said:
I saw the exact same thing happen at the DCC a few years ago. I am suprised to hear that Joe Nielsen pulled this move.
yep the same guy...
Yep...same guy...
But that was 18 years ago, so maybe he's found religion, or had a lobotomy that changed his personality...or, more likely, maybe he's still the same creepy guy, doing the same treacherous things, but on a larger scale.
Who knows....?
Yep...same guy...
But that was 18 years ago, so maybe he's found religion, or had a lobotomy that changed his personality...or, more likely, maybe he's still the same creepy guy, doing the same treacherous things, but on a larger scale.
Who knows....?
The great UJ Puckett
Ironman, I promise to steal Puck's line. Fat's couldnt of said it better.
the Beard
ironman said:
Ironman, I promise to steal Puck's line. Fat's couldnt of said it better.
the Beard
Bartender Looses' the posted-up Money..Gambling!
Years back, around 1979, my brother, Country Calvin and I were in Dallas,Tx. at "Rusty's Billiards" , well Gary Seay from Duncan.Okla. and Doug Wells his backer from Ardmore,Okla. came in the pool room.( Doug and Gary were the best people!)
Calvin and Gary have had many battles on the bar box, both being the "longest winded players I've ever seen" they could play for days on end.
Well to make a long story short, Calvn and Gary got matched up, started out Postn up $1,000 ....n later went too $2,000
10 ahead,bar box, playing with the water mellon, ( big cue ball), we had the money posted up with the no.1 bartender, ...well the bartender had , had enough and went home after 1 1/2 days of holding the money, and said the next no.2 baretender would hold it behind the bar, we ask if it was cool to trust him, and he said it was ok....?....
at that time it was after 2:00 A:M and very slow for a week night.....well after a little while I noticed the bartender playing some nineball about 4 tables over, but really paid it no mind......
It was about 6:00A:M , Calvin and Gary had been going back and forth all this time, we were about $200 apiece in the hole on quarters.......they decided to quit after getting even on the game.......
we go to take the " Posted up-Money" down from the bartender and come to find out he has been gambling on the pool table with the up money! , and had already lost $600 of the posted money........
you talking about the "Shit hitting the Fan!".:angry:
The bartender got fired, but we never did get that $600 of the posted money back.....
so if you post with the bartender, or up on the on the lights, who's to say that Jack Hynes' Iguanna didn't eat it or carry it off to an undisclosed location!.......hehe......
David Harcrow
Years back, around 1979, my brother, Country Calvin and I were in Dallas,Tx. at "Rusty's Billiards" , well Gary Seay from Duncan.Okla. and Doug Wells his backer from Ardmore,Okla. came in the pool room.( Doug and Gary were the best people!)
Calvin and Gary have had many battles on the bar box, both being the "longest winded players I've ever seen" they could play for days on end.
Well to make a long story short, Calvn and Gary got matched up, started out Postn up $1,000 ....n later went too $2,000
10 ahead,bar box, playing with the water mellon, ( big cue ball), we had the money posted up with the no.1 bartender, ...well the bartender had , had enough and went home after 1 1/2 days of holding the money, and said the next no.2 baretender would hold it behind the bar, we ask if it was cool to trust him, and he said it was ok....?....
at that time it was after 2:00 A:M and very slow for a week night.....well after a little while I noticed the bartender playing some nineball about 4 tables over, but really paid it no mind......
It was about 6:00A:M , Calvin and Gary had been going back and forth all this time, we were about $200 apiece in the hole on quarters.......they decided to quit after getting even on the game.......
we go to take the " Posted up-Money" down from the bartender and come to find out he has been gambling on the pool table with the up money! , and had already lost $600 of the posted money........
you talking about the "Shit hitting the Fan!".:angry:
The bartender got fired, but we never did get that $600 of the posted money back.....
so if you post with the bartender, or up on the on the lights, who's to say that Jack Hynes' Iguanna didn't eat it or carry it off to an undisclosed location!.......hehe......
David Harcrow
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streak said:
I think Joe has changed. I know guys that have gambled with him in the last few years and haven't heard anything.