Are any carbon fiber shafts low deflection?

scassidy77

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Wondering if any carbon fiber shafts are actually low deflection?
I got a 12.3 Jacoby Black, my buddy has a Bcue prime, and another friend has a Rhino carbon fiber shaft. And all of those have much much more deflection than my players HXT wood shaft. Which is not a super low deflection shaft in itself.
I like the feel of carbon fiber , but the deflection being so high makes it tough to play with. So hoping there may be one out there?
 

garczar

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Wondering if any carbon fiber shafts are actually low deflection?
I got a 12.3 Jacoby Black, my buddy has a Bcue prime, and another friend has a Rhino carbon fiber shaft. And all of those have much much more deflection than my players HXT wood shaft. Which is not a super low deflection shaft in itself.
I like the feel of carbon fiber , but the deflection being so high makes it tough to play with. So hoping there may be one out there?
no clue how you measure for ld. Every cf shaft i tested/owned(about 6-7 types) have all been low deflection. I also have a HXT 12.75 shaft and to me there is not much diff in it and most cf's. The smaller 11.8 cf are definitely lower in def than my HXT. I haven't hit any cf shafts that i'd remotely label as high defl.
 

Kim Bye

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Wondering if any carbon fiber shafts are actually low deflection?
I got a 12.3 Jacoby Black, my buddy has a Bcue prime, and another friend has a Rhino carbon fiber shaft. And all of those have much much more deflection than my players HXT wood shaft. Which is not a super low deflection shaft in itself.
I like the feel of carbon fiber , but the deflection being so high makes it tough to play with. So hoping there may be one out there?
How is it tough to play with?
Once you have played enough ( I tend to say 20 hours) with a piece of equipment, you are used to how it plays and it doesn't really matter that much how much deflection the shaft has. To me this is just more proof that low deflection is a term that confuses players and takes away from actually enjoying the game.
 

Texas Carom Club

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Predator Revo is the lowest. Nothing else compares. Predator has been the leader in low deflection since 1995 or so.
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fish2

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How is it tough to play with?
Once you have played enough ( I tend to say 20 hours) with a piece of equipment, you are used to how it plays and it doesn't really matter that much how much deflection the shaft has. To me this is just more proof that low deflection is a term that confuses players and takes away from actually enjoying the game.

This works if your only using a single cue, if your using multiple cues, it would be beneficial for all the shaft to have the same deflection. I use three different playing cues and all of them have the same shaft model
 

Kim Bye

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This works if your only using a single cue, if your using multiple cues, it would be beneficial for all the shaft to have the same deflection. I use three different playing cues and all of them have the same shaft model
Why are you using different cues?
 

Kim Bye

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I enjoy seeing and using my pool cues. I would rotate more than three If I can buy all my other playing cues the same shaft, but that is going to be expensive. To me it not just about the game but the equipment used is part of the fun...
Ok, so why is deflection your focus then? I would think the differences is what makes it interesting..
 

ChrisinNC

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Wondering if any carbon fiber shafts are actually low deflection?
I got a 12.3 Jacoby Black, my buddy has a Bcue prime, and another friend has a Rhino carbon fiber shaft. And all of those have much much more deflection than my players HXT wood shaft. Which is not a super low deflection shaft in itself.
I like the feel of carbon fiber , but the deflection being so high makes it tough to play with. So hoping there may be one out there?
Every manufacturer’s carbon fiber shafts deflect differently. Generally, I think it is safe to say that the less expensive ones tend to deflect more than the higher quality/higher priced ones.
 

scassidy77

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no clue how you measure for ld. Every cf shaft i tested/owned(about 6-7 types) have all been low deflection. I also have a HXT 12.75 shaft and to me there is not much diff in it and most cf's. The smaller 11.8 cf are definitely lower in def than my HXT. I haven't hit any cf shafts that i'd remotely label as high defl.
My hxt shaft is at 12.5mm. When I use my Jacoby Black 12.3mm and I am using high right or left English, I literally have to compensate 2 times further for the deflection than I would with my Htx shaft.
Meaning to compensate for how much right hand English will through the cue ball to the left on a firm shot for example.
About the same as a bar cue off the wall would deflect.
I think people that are not aware of this observation have not play with enough different shafts to be able to recognize deflection.
Because the carbon fiber shafts that I have tried up to this point, simply do not have very low deflection.
 

HueblerHustler7

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My hxt shaft is at 12.5mm. When I use my Jacoby Black 12.3mm and I am using high right or left English, I literally have to compensate 2 times further for the deflection than I would with my Htx shaft.
Meaning to compensate for how much right hand English will through the cue ball to the left on a firm shot for example.
About the same as a bar cue off the wall would deflect.
I think people that are not aware of this observation have not play with enough different shafts to be able to recognize deflection.
Because the carbon fiber shafts that I have tried up to this point, simply do not have very low deflection.
Jacoby black and prime are close to wood LD from what I have heard, but by no means are carbon shaft anywhere close to being on a grid of making a comment or asking the question " Are there any low deflection carbon shafts out there" Lowest deflections I have played with are Revo's, Cynergy 12.5, Becue engage 11.8 and 12.3 and Fortis they all very close in terms of deflection that other factors come into play more than anything. The ones I have seen have closer or just as much deflection as wood LD are peachaure ( has the most) and first gens Jacoby blaks and a Raven that I sent back after a hour of play because it squirted the cue ball further off line than any solid piece of wood I have ever hit with...

Are you using back hand English? I feel Carbon shafts don't react well with it, some more than others. They IMO do very well with parallel and front hand English, some more than others. Also their difernces of deflection depend on how much speed and far out your aiming. That being said I don't have to aim as far out to get as much spin, maybe thats the issue you so use to having to aim father with the HTX. Plus your used to your HTX cuz its yours, you'd have to put more time into the other shafts to truly see what Im talking about.
 

fish2

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My friend has an inexpensive CF shaft and it deflects more that my Predator 12.9 Vantage shaft, tried the Predator Revo 11.8 and 12,4 and these have less deflection than my Vantage shaft
 

TrxR

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I enjoy seeing and using my pool cues. I would rotate more than three If I can buy all my other playing cues the same shaft, but that is going to be expensive. To me it not just about the game but the equipment used is part of the fun...
Just buy a Whyte Carbon or Bull carbon and buy different inserts for different cues.
 

nataddrho

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Predator Revo 11.8 is low deflection. Maybe to a fault. I can't play pool well at all with any other cue.

 

Sheldon

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Dennis Hatch played with one of Andrew's carbon playing shafts last weekend, and bought one that same day. He said it deflected less than any shaft he'd ever used, and he was able to aim straight at a ball with extreme spin.
http://www.anglincues.com/

I haven't tried one, but Dennis was super stoked on it.
 
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