Me neither - just clarifying a physical fact for those interested in such things.
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Are any carbon fiber shafts low deflection?
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For myself, I’ve found the Mezz WX900 wood shaft deflects less than any of the carbon fiber shafts I have tried.
However, I’m currently using the Mezz carbon fiber Ignite, as I found the WX900 a little too thin for my liking, and thus too easy to miss shots if I missed my CB contact point just a little, which resulted in throwing the OB off line just enough to miss.
I can recall the first time I hit w a CF shaft. Apparently the wood I was using had quite a bit of deflection and I had simply gotten used to the adjustment on those shots.
The CF was an eye opener.
I didn't need to aim outside of my shot line to compensate.
Or at least very little compared to what I had been using. That's all I meant w my comment. My mistake in thinking it was self explanatory. No such thing here I guess.
I think you are taking it a bit too personal. You stated a simple fact. That fact was incorrect. PJ corrected you?
I can miss with any shaft .
No, its not too powerful and YES you can still swerve/curve the cb with them. Game still requires a stroke. where does this shit come from????Very true deflection is a positional play advantage for position over LD shafts! Even swerve shots. 1 of the pioneer instructors Bert Kinister teaches the advantages and use of deflection. carbon is way to powerful for todays modern equipment, it is already way to fast. No stroke pool.
Yeah, lots of misinformation out there.
That having been said, there are some very rare situations -- like maybe once per year if you play a lot -- where it is useful to have a high deflection cue.
Fouetté seems easier. If you are frozen to a ball, squirt can actually let you shoot around the ball a little.
It has been argued that for some shots, the extra squirt lets you aim more normally, but that argument tends to ignore all the other shots where you would have to deal with the squirt. (I think those are shots with more swerve than usual.)
There is actually an equal now, the J Flowers shaft they advertise as the "lowest" deflection". I first thought it was more marketing bull, but I tried one while at the International in Florida a few months ago, and they are not lying. That thing deflects no more than the Revo.
Maybe not, wood would absorb some moisture, but CF will just accumulate it on the surface. Not from experimenting, just a brain thinking logic mechanical thing.
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The J Flowers S.M.O. $400 low-deflection shaft compared to the other J Flowers' shafts:
There 3 shots I find are harder with an LD shaft.
- Inside spin to make a ball on the rail on an sharp or reverse angle. The curve of the cueball makes it scoot to the side more then spin into the ball to make it easier (to me at least).
- Slow spin to curve a bit around an obstructing ball without using a masse. Again, the cueball motion to the side, then spinning back in line makes this shot possible without aiming funky.
- Jumping with the full cue. I was trying to show someone the shot where you use a bit of a hop to make a ball, then pop over a ball near the ball to avoid hitting it for position. With an LD shaft, I kept hitting the ball I was trying to go over, I grabbed a house cue and it popped up the first try.
I have not played much with their other CF shafts aside from whatever came with their cheaper cues about a year ago, those were just normal deflection. That SMO one I tried, is the real deal for LD properties. I was inches away from buying it on the spot, but will probably hold out till I spot a used one someplace. Would be nice to find someone near me with the Crown or Classic to see what "Low" Deflection is to them. If I tried it out when trying out the Revo (having a 12.4 and an 11.8), I would have gotten this one for the cost difference.
I shoot with the mezz WX Sigma and just purchased the Cuetec Cynergy. I have owned the Rhino and the Ignite and the Revo. The Sigma has less deflection. I will be returning the Cynergy as I don't want to go back after spending the last year finally learning to shoot with low deflection.
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Wow! I am surprised. Its too bad you hadn't tried the J Flowers SMO to report on that.
I agree that jump shots seem easier. For the other two, I think you can play them as easily with a low-deflection shaft if you are used to the difference in aim.
I would much rather play #1 (90-degree cut on a frozen ball) with my low deflection shaft because I'm used to it. I often demo the shot with a student's high-deflection cue to show them the difference in compensation. Sometimes I have to aim on the wrong side of the ball. I don't like to do that.
Do you know if anyone has ever tried to take the concept of a sliding tip to produce an ultra low, or zero deflection shaft, to a working prototype? I can’t remember if that was your idea or someone else’s.