Are bar tables hurting the game

Nick B said:
Ummmmm let me think about this...YES. Horrible for your game. Promotes poor stroke mechanics and fundamentals. Invented to let drunks put quarters in slots. You know what Fedor used for a practice table? A 10 foot Diamond and it shows. All the Snooker females who came over the pond (Alison, Karen & Kelly) grew up on snooker tables. Check out their fundamentals.

Meanwhile the country that gave the world pool can't find 5 suitable opponents for the Mosconi.

Flame on.
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Wow mosconi, the zenith of pool I guess, a quick fast sloppy game for people to hoot and holler , raise they're cues and scream to the crowd . Yeah sounds the current state of pool. With the magic racks, brand new polished balls and brand new super sliding cloth so it plays like ice hockey


Bb8b>any table size 9b
 
measureman said:
Yeah bar boxes are great for bars,it gives the drunks pool cues to beat each other with.
And balls to throw,saw that once in a pool room,scary stuff.
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Seen the aftermath of one. Show up to practice, the rooms a mess, bloody pool balls, globs of gooey blood all over. I helped the night guy clean up. He said they left their driver's licenses. :D
 
David in FL said:
OK, everyone please forgive me straying from the topic briefly here, but this (likely inadvertent) misstatement must be corrected lest other shooter’s heads explode. 😁

1 MOA (minute of angle) at 100 yards is not the same as 1/2 MOA at 50 yards. 1 MOA equates to an accuracy of 1 inch dispersion at 100 yards. That same 1 MOA would be 1/2 inch at 50 yards (hence the confusion), 2 inches at 200 yards, 5 inches at 500 yards, etc…

1/2 MOA at 50 yards would equate to an accuracy of 1/4 inch at 50 yards, 1/2 inch at 100 yards, 1 inch at 200 yards, etc…



We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

No, bar boxes are good for pool because they allow for more people to play, whether recreationally or competitively.

Whether or not they are “good” for professional pool is a completely different subject.
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Ooops. You are absolutely correct. I misspoke on that one. One minute of angle is approximately 1 inch at 100 yd and a half inch at 50 yards but it's still one minute of an angle. I knew that I just miss stated it. I meant to say inches both for some reason said minute of angle. I will edit the post accordingly.
 
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garczar said:
None of this has anything to do with the state of big table vs. bar table pool.
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The app said, and I quote , "Preventing pro players from performing where they belong (9ft)."

The point I was trying to make is it is just as easy, or just as hard, to hit a 5-in pocket at 7 ft, as it is 4 1/4 inch pocket at 5 ft. The difficulty is the same in my opinion.

The first time we actually played games on our 9-ft, I had two break and runs back to back. I have never in my life been able to do that on a 7 ft. And yes I do have a witness. So yes, I think the game of 8 ball is easier on a 9-ft table, if you can control the cue ball, which that day I did.
 
buckshotshoey said:
The app said, and I quote , "Preventing pro players from performing where they belong (9ft)."

The point I was trying to make is it is just as easy, or just as hard, to hit a 5-in pocket at 7 ft, as it is 4 1/4 inch pocket at 5 ft. The difficulty is the same in my opinion.

The first time we actually played games on our 9-ft, I had two break and runs back to back. I have never in my life been able to do that on a 7 ft. And yes I do have a witness. So yes, I think the game of 8 ball is easier on a 9-ft table, if you can control the cue ball, which that day I did.
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Even though I rarely get the chance, I have beaten the eight ball ghost, on a 9’ GC4. Sadly, I have never been able to, on my 7’ home table.
 
Jimmorrison said:
Even though I rarely get the chance, I have beaten the eight ball ghost, on a 9’ GC4. Sadly, I have never been able to, on my 7’ home table.
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Wierd.... ISN'T it? I did admit our GC3 has generous pockets. And the new cloth probably makes it easier. That will probably change with time.
 
I don't think so. People get better & then move to a bigger venue. Some folks don't have a Family Room that is 35 x 45 with an 8 foot Custom Table & an Antique Snooker Table in one end. I once noticed that people who couldn't bowl very good, soon graduated to not going to the Bowling Alley, then not even driving by the Bowling Alley. That's the way it would be, if they played Pool badly, all the time.. The Bar Table let's them play good once in a while & they enjoy their friends, while running a few balls.....
 
Not at all.... all tables promote people playing.

If this is some whine about the state of US pool and the Mosconi pick...
Let's put things into perspective vs. the rest of the World.

All major cities in the US have poolhalls.
9ft tables, 8ft, 7ft etc.
You have 3 major leagues, with hundreds of thousands of players.
There are thousands of tournaments going on all over the country.

The US should be a breeding ground for new talent.

So, it has nothing to do with what equipment is being used.
Zero.
Nada.

You have other sports with millions of dollars put into it.
Gov grants, scholarships etc as well.
Paths to train juniors, to professional level.
Where is that in Pool in the US????
That is the problem.
What is the BCA doing exactly?
Go and have a good hard look at yourselves around the support the game gets for creating a career for players.
There you shall find the problem to solve.

Good luck, and Team Europe will have field day.
 
i think it does in some ways ...... sometimes it is tough to find a 9 ft table .... bar tables hurt advanced development of players ..... i have to drive 2 hrs to play on a 9 ft table because of this i dont play near as much as i would like to.

if you have a town with 3 or so pool halls/ bars and only have 1 9ft table per every 12-15 bar tables .... and have people calling and reserving the 9 ft tables .... this is pretty bad. i dont even try to go to the local locations anymore. i use to play 4 or 5 times a weak ... now i only play maybe once or twice a month.

i noticed a shrinking numbers of 9ft tables in my area over the years .... thats why i despise bar tables ... BURN THEM ALL
 
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people are not trying to play a professional game anymore .... everything is catered to social players .... not player development
 
in my opinion APA should be a little different ..... instead of playing for rank ... the players put up $20+ and play for it and only play on 9ft tables .... end of year who wins the most money is the better the player ... LMAO .... JK
 
TAKE APA TEAMS FOR EXAMPLE .... teams who play on big tables will dominate players who only play on bar tables .... you can adjust down, but adjusting up is much harder
 
TrxR said:
Don't think that's always true, with 8 ball anyways. A 7ft table can be harder to get around as it's far more congested compared to a 9ft.
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if you play well on a larger table you can manage clusters .... but your comment assumes someone plans to run out every time ... sure you have congestion ... but you adjust your play for this. still a bar table is far easier to play on than a 9 ft table. This is why amateur events are played on them.
 
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