Are Gold Crowns Still Being "Diamondized?"

Correct me if Im wrong... but you dont go out and play right?

I have a few times in the past. Not recently though. I've been to Evansville a few times. Over to Madison, near Cincinnati, as well. Played in some local stuff. But everybody died on me and I sort of lost interest recently. I now have a neighbor whose younger brother has played in the Derby City so I think we are going to play some.
 
I just read through this entire thread. To answer your first question, no do not spend money on your table. If you can miss a straight in draw shot 11 out of 11 times. Its not the table. There is something wrong with your mechanics or aim or both. My suggestion is to start with 4 balls. rack, break, bih, try to run out. If you can run out 2 of 3 add a ball. So on. Billiard University has some progressive practice drills. Try them. You don't have to get to the end of each. But you should be able to make the first few. Make sure your body is aligned on the shot line and your stroke is straight.
 
I just read through this entire thread. To answer your first question, no do not spend money on your table. If you can miss a straight in draw shot 11 out of 11 times. Its not the table. There is something wrong with your mechanics or aim or both. My suggestion is to start with 4 balls. rack, break, bih, try to run out. If you can run out 2 of 3 add a ball. So on. Billiard University has some progressive practice drills. Try them. You don't have to get to the end of each. But you should be able to make the first few. Make sure your body is aligned on the shot line and your stroke is straight.

This thread is not about missing the draw shot 11 times in a row.

It's about the fact that balls don't seem to go in off the break on my Gold Crown IV.

And when 1/2 balls do go in I never seem to have any chance of running out. Horrible spreads.
 
This thread is not about missing the draw shot 11 times in a row.

It's about the fact that balls don't seem to go in off the break on my Gold Crown IV.

And when 1/2 balls do go in I never seem to have any chance of running out. Horrible spreads.
What makes you think your first shot after the break is no good?

11 rows in a missus is relevant to the conversation.
 
This thread is not about missing the draw shot 11 times in a row.

It's about the fact that balls don't seem to go in off the break on my Gold Crown IV.

And when 1/2 balls do go in I never seem to have any chance of running out. Horrible spreads.
Can you post some pics of the table immediately after some breaks?
 
I have a few times in the past. Not recently though. I've been to Evansville a few times. Over to Madison, near Cincinnati, as well. Played in some local stuff. But everybody died on me and I sort of lost interest recently. I now have a neighbor whose younger brother has played in the Derby City so I think we are going to play some.
Im sorry to hear about them passing.

All seriousness though, I think going out and matching up will be the best thing for you. Not to mention shooting with your neighbor's brother like you said.

There is only so much you are going to get out of shooting by yourself. Don't get me wrong, as practice, it's the best because you dont have to wait for your opponent, but matching up adds a metric shit ton of valuable experience and process learning.

I do not know your playing ability (do you have a fargo?) so I do not know what you are capable of. I will saying watching the pros all the time can be vaulable but can also be discouraging. Sometimes we are simply not capable of doing what they can do and sometimes we are at a mental deficit to some of the things they can achieve as we simply do not know how to do it because we have yet to have seen it in person.

Hope that makes sense.
 
Can you post some pics of the table immediately after some breaks?
Actually before and after, like an overhead of the rack.

For the after, tell us where you hit the cueball, where the cueball hit the headball and what it did to get where it stopped.
 
Im sorry to hear about them passing.

All seriousness though, I think going out and matching up will be the best thing for you. Not to mention shooting with your neighbor's brother like you said.

There is only so much you are going to get out of shooting by yourself. Don't get me wrong, as practice, it's the best because you dont have to wait for your opponent, but matching up adds a metric shit ton of valuable experience and process learning.

I do not know your playing ability (do you have a fargo?) so I do not know what you are capable of. I will saying watching the pros all the time can be vaulable but can also be discouraging. Sometimes we are simply not capable of doing what they can do and sometimes we are at a mental deficit to some of the things they can achieve as we simply do not know how to do it because we have yet to have seen it in person.

Hope that makes sense.
A good point...watching the best will not give you an accurate perspective of the game.
 
Actually before and after, like an overhead of the rack.

For the after, tell us where you hit the cueball, where the cueball hit the headball and what it did to get where it stopped.

FYI,
I watched a match from the Sands Regency in Reno last night. It was one of my Accu-Stats DVDs from back around 1994. Buddy Hall and Rudolfo Luat. It ended up 11-10 Buddy Hall. Of those 21 break shots I believe 19 or 20 never ended up near the center of the table. They were, however, using the break box.

Rarely do I ever see a pro squat the CB in the middle of the table. Or at least have it stay there.
 
FYI,
I watched a match from the Sands Regency in Reno last night. It was one of my Accu-Stats DVDs from back around 1994. Buddy Hall and Rudolfo Luat. It ended up 11-10 Buddy Hall. Of those 21 break shots I believe 19 or 20 never ended up near the center of the table. They were, however, using the break box.

Rarely do I ever see a pro squat the CB in the middle of the table. Or at least have it stay there.
That doesn't matter.

Look, I'm not trying to be rude. I really want you to get the help you (kind of) seem to desire. You have to help us help you, or stop asking questions. Without visual aids of video, or at the very minimum, pictures, there is nothing anyone here can do for you.
 
This thread is not about missing the draw shot 11 times in a row.

It's about the fact that balls don't seem to go in off the break on my Gold Crown IV.

And when 1/2 balls do go in I never seem to have any chance of running out. Horrible spreads.
Can you post some pics of the table immediately after some breaks?
Could you two take your millionaire stories somewhere else?

That way we could stay on topic.

Thank you.
Maybe if you actually provided some feedback to the questions people have asked, we wouldn't have time to wander off topic waiting on you to respond?

Seriously, do you think that just because you have a pool table that you should be able to successfully break and run 30% of the time? You have provided no information about your skill level, if you have _ever_ had successful breaks on _any_ pool table, posted any pics of the spreads you are getting, etc. I mean, the break IS the most important shot in rotation games, and hardest to master. Not even the world's best pros consistently break and run most of the time.
 
Even at my highest earning years I never made enough to “pay” that much for insurance.

The replacement cost for just construction would be about $10M on that structure. So a premium of 1.45% which is absolutely insane. The guy across the street has a similar houses paying $340,000 a year-yes $340,000 not a typo. This is how stupid Ca has became.

My property tax and insurance adds up to about $200,000 before I turn on the lights. Remember in Ca you pay over 50% in taxes. So the first $450,000 of income is gone before the lights are turned on or I eat a crumb. News flash, I refuse to play in that sandbox.

So I left. Never looking back. Even if I was making $20,000,000/year, I’d leave.(I’ve never made that much)

My best years were $8.5M a year and that was back in 2001-2008. I don’t make much now. And I’m not gonna go broke sitting in Ca fading that nut.

So I made some big changes.

Life is good! I’ve been lucky.

And I sold the house for ~50¢ on the dollar from what it would cost to build. Market is soft, I still made $ as I bought it right a while back. So I’m not gonna complain about that. But I will complain about staying there.

That’s the whole story,

These days I live a very simple happy life. Great memories and I know I got all the juice out of the oranges when it mattered. 😉
Smart man.
 
Can you post some pics of the table immediately after some breaks?

Ok, here you go. These were my first two breaks. As you can see in Rack #1 the 1B is right behind the 6B. No shot here. Imagine that.

And in Rack #2 I actually made three balls but, as you can see, the CB got kicked around and there is no shot on the 2B. Imagine that.

This is the norm. And it's about this time after 3-4 racks of the same crap as this that I start to get that shitty attitude. Here we go again, that's what I say to myself.
 

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There is a bit of a learning curve to the Outsville rack. You need to load the first 8 balls and then push forward slightly the lock them in place and put the last ball in place holding them all together.

It's the flattest of the template racks, but it also isnt the best for locking balls in place until you learn how to do it.

I have the Magic rack, Turtle rack and the Outsville rack. Still think the magic rack is the best.
Yeah i know how to use it. I also prefer a magic rack
 
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