You should start calling and sending them messages through Facebook to make sure those that don't use a CF shaft know they are making a huge mistake and are going to start losing all the time.
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Are we seeing the end of wood cues?
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I don't play at the neurosurgeon level. Maybe neurosturgeon but I digress, so extreme tolerances mean little. I want a cue with a look that inspires me. Most cues, customs and all, are white maple against a butt busy with clashing detail. Makes me cringe half the time. All black is the other end of the spectrum and does nothing for me as well.
I think CF is priced at a premium to cash in on the early adopter segment. And now that more manufacturers are starting to produce and market their own brands we are seeing prices and options tuned for the early majority segment.
You won’t get to the late majority segment until the price drops significantly, like cheap Walmart cues get CF shafts. And you can’t forget the laggard segment with people that will likely hold out for the rest of their lives. That’s not shrinking because they either love the feel of wood, have attributed a desirable value to the hit, or are disinterested in retraining their brain to a new/different deflection characteristic. That segment is likely only going to age out and get replaced with new generations that only ever saw a wood shaft at a garage sale.
Of course this is all assuming the “total takeover” occurs. I assume it will but I’ll acknowledge this could possibly be a fad. Ultimately (and again) the thing we need to watch for is when those cheap Walmart cues get the CF treatment. Without it, the takeover doesn’t occur. And it does seem that’s next on the progression. My question is how many years away do you think we are from that? 5? 10? 20?
You won’t get to the late majority segment until the price drops significantly, like cheap Walmart cues get CF shafts. And you can’t forget the laggard segment with people that will likely hold out for the rest of their lives. That’s not shrinking because they either love the feel of wood, have attributed a desirable value to the hit, or are disinterested in retraining their brain to a new/different deflection characteristic. That segment is likely only going to age out and get replaced with new generations that only ever saw a wood shaft at a garage sale.
Of course this is all assuming the “total takeover” occurs. I assume it will but I’ll acknowledge this could possibly be a fad. Ultimately (and again) the thing we need to watch for is when those cheap Walmart cues get the CF treatment. Without it, the takeover doesn’t occur. And it does seem that’s next on the progression. My question is how many years away do you think we are from that? 5? 10? 20?
I have a Becue and some wood cues. The Becue shaft is warped more than any of my wood shafts, so I play with one of my wood cues.
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And in terms of the pros. What SVB, Shaw, Filler and Gorst use is less interesting to me than what Savannah Easton, Joey Tate, Landon Hollingsworth, Sam Henderson, or Kash Keaton are using. Because that’s a better glimpse of what pool will look like in 20 years.
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shaw is still on wood like filler
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More so, the end of the custom cue maker.
There is also a top to the market price wise. No more $2000.00 + cues. Anybody can now afford a nice cue.
There is also a top to the market price wise. No more $2000.00 + cues. Anybody can now afford a nice cue.
wow
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This sounds like as much a religious discussion as anything we could do in the billiards world except maybe chalk.
I'm siding with thenaturalpoolplayer from a playing standpoint. I learned to play tennis on wooden racquets, now you might find a few on thrift shops and walls and I work with a company selling carbon fiber racquets to high school players. I learned to ski on wooden cross country skis, and listened to a generation of Scandinavians tell me how they'd never switch, meanwhile I and every other racer use carbon fiber honeycomb core skis that outperform wood in every way imaginable. Look at the Tour de France bikes and tell me how many aren't carbon fiber.
Right now the carbon fiber shafts are on the expensive side, but it is only a matter of time before the price drops and every quality shaft is carbon fiber. As for the cue butts, I love the artistry, and they will surely survive for quite some time with the elaborate wood inlays for show, but for dough, they'll go carbon fiber also.
And don't get me going about vinyl records. I used to write FIRs and IIRs in the signal processing world, and we're perfectly capable of digitizing scratches. static, 60 Hz hum and all the other background nonsense that comes with vinyl. I have my entire music library on something the size of my keychain instead of a cabinet as well.
I'm siding with thenaturalpoolplayer from a playing standpoint. I learned to play tennis on wooden racquets, now you might find a few on thrift shops and walls and I work with a company selling carbon fiber racquets to high school players. I learned to ski on wooden cross country skis, and listened to a generation of Scandinavians tell me how they'd never switch, meanwhile I and every other racer use carbon fiber honeycomb core skis that outperform wood in every way imaginable. Look at the Tour de France bikes and tell me how many aren't carbon fiber.
Right now the carbon fiber shafts are on the expensive side, but it is only a matter of time before the price drops and every quality shaft is carbon fiber. As for the cue butts, I love the artistry, and they will surely survive for quite some time with the elaborate wood inlays for show, but for dough, they'll go carbon fiber also.
And don't get me going about vinyl records. I used to write FIRs and IIRs in the signal processing world, and we're perfectly capable of digitizing scratches. static, 60 Hz hum and all the other background nonsense that comes with vinyl. I have my entire music library on something the size of my keychain instead of a cabinet as well.
justns alt account of course
as if cf cues just magnet themselves together in an instant
Butt plugs are no joke.
No
the guy's completely off-the-air. natural player???? no,just another troll artist.
as in he hits em like a .......
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