Are you a groveling wimp?

[Timberly]

And Timberly says blah, blah, blah....and blah, blah blah about being a tomboy, and going to sporting events and all of that stuff. But Iconcue...I guarantee... you'd still like to do the dirty deed with her. Don't let that junk throw you off. She's still ALL WOMAN!

LOL, I have my moments where I clean up ok & can look like a girl But the whole time I'm thinking how much nicer it would be & how much more comfy I would be if I could just put on my jeans, sneakers, baseball hat, & drink beer from a bottle instead of a glass.

 

[Rude Dog]

Are you people trying to say that couples share their money? Hmmm, maybe my wife and I should try this, find a couple to share theirs with us.

 

[barrett9ball]

Believe me when I tell you that I think more like a guy than a girl. I have no decorating or fashion sense. I only carry a purse when I go out of town so it can hold my camera, phone, etc.... I'm not one of those manipulators that'll break your bank buying purses, shoes, & gold. Beer, cues (I need a cue.. I've got champagne taste on a beer budget ) going to sporting events... these are the things that I can spend money on. I'm a tomboy & most of my friends are guys.... I see the stuff some of them go through & I just shake my head... I can't believe people (women mostly) act the way they do. It's really asinine sometimes.

If I could find a women like that I might reconsider my previous stance. As some of the others have posted it is all a respect thing. It takes a special kind of person to live with and understand a "pool person"

 

[vagabond]

LOL, I have my moments where I clean up ok & can look like a girl But the whole time I'm thinking how much nicer it would be & how much more comfy I would be if I could just put on my jeans, sneakers, baseball hat, & drink beer from a bottle instead of a glass.

Long time ago ( when u first came to this form)I said that u DO NOT look like a Tomboy.You are a woman all the way.
What is your favorite beer? Have u tried Red Stripe( Jamaican), Fosters( australian) Steinlager( Newzeland) ? I recommend them.

 

[Timberly]

Long time ago ( when u first came to this form)I said that u DO NOT look like a Tomboy.You are a woman all the way.
What is your favorite beer? Have u tried Red Stripe( Jamaican), Fosters( australian) Steinlager( Newzeland) ? I recommend them.

Thanks Vagabond

I'm not much of a beer connesueir (sp). I didn't like beer for the longest time so I drank liquor. I started drinking beer when I was 26... as the yrs have gone by I've gotten a little bolder but I usually stick to the light stuff...bud light, Mich ultra. My beer of choice for a long time was Yuengling Lager. That stuff sticks to my gut too much.

 

[chefjeff]

(snip)
I can't believe people (women mostly) act the way they do. It's really asinine sometimes.

Ever hear of Wendy McElroy? Here's a paragraph from her site.

People generally do not thrive when they have little or no control over their lives. This is as true of men as it is of women. Were men to be systematically controlled in such a manner, we would see a dramatic decline in the technical, artistic, social and other accomplishments and advances that men have contributed to human civilization since the birth of humanity. Moreover, women would lose any claim to moral decency as well as the respect of men. While it might satisfy a few power-hungry monsters, stifling the creativity and intellect of half the population would not be beneficial for the vast majority of women.

Basically, she says that the current feminist movement has made men (especially with young boys in schools being trained to think this way) less masculine and this is bad for all.

Jeff Livingston

 

[vagabond]

Ever hear of Wendy McElroy? Here's a paragraph from her site.

Basically, she says that the current feminist movement has made men (especially with young boys in schools being trained to think this way) less masculine and this is bad for all

Jeff Livingston

hi Jeff,
Right at this moment on MSNBC they were talking about a CEO who spent $241,000 on company`s credit card in a gentleman`s club in NYwhile celebrating a buisiness deal.Some one was saying it deprives( playing field is not leveled) the women salesman of buisiness deals because some women do not like to do the buisiness deals in the enviroment of Naked women,alcohol etc..

 

[drivermaker]

hi Jeff,
Right at this moment on MSNBC they were talking about a CEO who spent $241,000 on company`s credit card in a gentleman`s club in NYwhile celebrating a buisiness deal.Some one was saying it deprives( playing field is not leveled) the women salesman of buisiness deals because some women do not like to do the buisiness deals in the enviroment of Naked women,alcohol etc..

Women have other ways of leveling it out AND actually having an advantage in many circumstances. I guess nobody brought that out though.

 

[Barbara]

Women have other ways of leveling it out AND actually having an advantage in many circumstances. I guess nobody brought that out though.

Do tell, DM...

Barbara

 

[DaveK]

Why are none of the guys that have to beg, promise, and buy coming on with their tales of woe??

New Guy...Jude....others....where for art thou?

OK, OK, I'm here

The pool table was my wifes idea, I agreed rather quickly

Some of my toys have taken some askin', but I still got all my body parts with everything working, so I must be a pretty good negotiator (at least better than some). We tend to discuss anything of consequence to our finances. The smaller items are another story. We share a band account with both paycheques, and we often look at the activity online. There is a common shout in our house, it goes something like .... " Hey ! What the heck did you buy at ABC for $37.27 ? ". It's kind of a marital woofing thing, and it definately goes both ways

Dave

I do things like install 400 sq ft of hardwood flooring myself, and spend the installation savings on machine tools ... a fair deal all round I think (or perhaps 'I rationalize') ... and it keeps me thin !

 

[drivermaker]

Do tell, DM...

Barbara

First of all, for someone to infer that many business deals are struck and consummated in a strip club is ridiculous. The percentage of times that occurs is probably miniscule and immeasurable. In the business world whether it's men or women...you still can't beat someone that is articulate, dresses for success (and let's face it...if it's a man as the final decision maker many times he'd rather look at a woman), really knows what they're talking about, has a sense of humor and not boring, and exhibits professionalism.

(and I'll bet you thought I was going to say T&A and the casting couch, huh?)

Besides, for entertainment she can always take a male counterpart to an extreme fighting match or score some tickets for a home-team professional sporting event. (seriously on that one)

 

[drivermaker]

also he said they were "celebrating a business deal" not coming to an agreement! the women probably went to chippendale's

How in the hell can you possibly "celebrate" a quarter of a million bucks at a strip club in ONE NIGHT??

Now, if somebody wanted to bribe me with a quarter of a million bucks worth of CUES for a business deal...they'd NEVER have to worry about the competition! (that is unless the competition was offering $300k+ of cues to buy me off)

 

[Snapshot9]

Wonderful words

from these guys on their give and take, but some of the
real reality is how they keep their bank accounts, and
who manages the money. When I was married, I had
a bank account, and my wife had one. Our incomes
went into our respective separate accounts. I paid
all the big or major payments, like house payment,
insurance (home and car and health), family vacations,
my car payment, kid's car payments. She paid her
car payment, utilities, and food. We would share on
other things for the kids or our home, depending on
the status of each account. I paid for all the
landscaping costs for our new home (I did the landscaping
myself). I bought things I wanted, like a riding mower.
She bought some things she wanted, like wallpaper for
part of the house. My income was about 3 times what
her's was, so, to me, our agreement was equitable.
To me, too many problems had arisen from having a
joint account in a previous marriage, and this seemed
to be a better solution. Each of us had our own money,
our responsibilities per our separate incomes, and were
accountable. None of this just handing over the paycheck,
and having to ask for money, and down the road not
knowing the overall status of your finances.

Finances can take a dip in a hurry, and can cause many
problems in a marriage. Staying actively involved in them
is a good idea, because being too trusting with them can
end up with devastating effects if the marriage breaks up,
and marriages do break up.

 

[ShootingArts]

How in the hell can you possibly "celebrate" a quarter of a million bucks at a strip club in ONE NIGHT??

Now, if somebody wanted to bribe me with a quarter of a million bucks worth of CUES for a business deal...they'd NEVER have to worry about the competition! (that is unless the competition was offering $300+ of cues to buy me off)

Think you left a "K" off behind the $300. I'm with you though, I can be bought but I ain't cheap!

Hu

 

[lukeinva]

My wife and I are the same I dont care what she buys she doesnt care what I buy. If we have the money we buy whatever I dont care if its a new car or a pool cue. She gives me a heads up on what she is buying and I do the same with her. We just let each other know just in case the other had something else planned. We do not beg each other. Hell the only reason we have not bought a house yet is because we can not find one (within our price range) with room enough for a pool table and one that has a big kitchen (she loves cooking) Sure we could buy a 600k home but then we wouldnt be able to buy what we want. We dont want to be house poor. Unfortunaltey I live in Northern va where a one level rambler with 3 bedrooms goes for 350k-400k. I think its way too much for such a small house. Man I hope the market drops soon!

 

[Timberly]

How in the hell can you possibly "celebrate" a quarter of a million bucks at a strip club in ONE NIGHT??

Take a trip to "The Men's Club of Dallas" or "Cabaret Royal" in Dallas, TX & you'll see just how possible it can be. My ex was a DJ in both of them. Those were the clubs that the Dallas Cowboys, Chuck Norris, & whoever else was rich & famous in Dallas went to. They're not cheap by any means. The prices for food & beverages in the place is bad enough but then there's the funny money. You can take your credit card & buy bills kind of like monopoly money. (this is the nuts...the club takes a small percentage. Ex if you buy $100 funny money, you'll actually get $90, depending on the %. THEN, when the girls cash in their money, they keep a certain % from her, like they did you. Not to mention, the girls pay the club to work there ) When you start buying that funny money & getting lap dances on top of all the food & beverages... with a group of people using a credit card not caring about price... yeah, I could see it.

 

[drivermaker]

Take a trip to "The Men's Club of Dallas" or "Cabaret Royal" in Dallas, TX & you'll see just how possible it can be. My ex was a DJ in both of them. Those were the clubs that the Dallas Cowboys, Chuck Norris, & whoever else was rich & famous in Dallas went to. They're not cheap by any means. The prices for food & beverages in the place is bad enough but then there's the funny money. You can take your credit card & buy bills kind of like monopoly money. (this is the nuts...the club takes a small percentage. Ex if you buy $100 funny money, you'll actually get $90, depending on the %. THEN, when the girls cash in their money, they keep a certain % from her, like they did you. Not to mention, the girls pay the club to work there ) When you start buying that funny money & getting lap dances on top of all the food & beverages... with a group of people using a credit card not caring about price... yeah, I could see it.

Sounds to me like you should just get 5 - $5,000 bottles of champagne for yourself and the other person and get so plastered that you pass out and they have to drag your ass out with your head banging on each step down an entire flight and you'd save $225,000. Well, I guess $224,900 if you then spent $100 at a massage parlor for a whack job.

Mawissa...pipe in on this. You have all the experience in these matters.

 

[JoeyInCali]

This thread's scaring me.
I'm gonna buy all Predator P2 models before I lose my pants.

 

[vagabond]

heck! i don't know! ask vagabond! he's the one that saw it on msnbc.

but just guessin maybe big tits . . . er . . . tips!

The CEO is now disputing that bill.I was buisy hunting and picking on the key board and as a result I missed the part that said about the amount claimed by the buisiness owner and the amount the CEO believes that was spent.Actully all the lap dances etc were not after finishing the deal and they started when they all sat for negotiations.I am not buisiness guy and I really do not how these buisinesses are conducted.The news people did not give all the details.

 

[catscradle]

Hell I wouldn't buy anything major (including the pool table I have) without checking with my wife and she wouldn't buy anything major without checking with me. We don't manipulate each other, it's just the realities of a shared economy. I do have several expensive cues I didn't seek approval about, but that isn't major in my opinion because we could afford it (sort of) right now. A toaster oven can be something you need to consult each other about depending upon your current economic conditions. I figure it it requires that it be charged, it requires consultation.
This formula has worked for my wife and me for 29 years.