Arizona Ratings Convertions to ABC System Discrepencies - Opinions Wanted
- Thread starter BigCat
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I like the all around format,one guy picks a game and another guy picks his with a neutral game being the decider.Both guys get to show the talent in their favorite/best games,but I wouldn't mind seeing 2 players who their best games is say 10 ball go to 100 over 2 days. :smile:BigCat said:The original topic of this thread got lost like on page 4, so don't worry about that. If you want to play someone, just play. Who cares about ratings. Both of my challenge matches so far (that were NOT initiated by me) are between myself and 8/9's. So I don't think everyone has to match up with someone their exact speed/rating.
If no one will step up to play you, then I will. I know I would be the underdog, but I would love the chance to finally match up against you in some 10 ball on a 9 ft. In fact, I would cancel my challenge to Prince in order to play you sometime in the near future. Plus, like you, I pretty much despise one pocket.
How's this:
14.1 - Race to 200
8 Ball - Race to 15/20
10 Ball - Race to 20/30
Ray
Edit: I just realized that no one has done a one set challenge, yet. Everyone is getting caught up in the all around mentality (including me). So if you want to just do something like a race to 50 in 10 ball, I'm game. I do also realize that you are the best straight pool player in Arizona and surrounding states, so it may not be much of a challenge for you to play me in 14.1.
BigCat said:Hello All,
I am starting this thread to get some opinions. Recently, Roger Long, a BCA instructor and player here in the state of Arizona started a website that provides general information about pool in Arizona. Among some of the items on his website, he includes his opinion on what the Arizona ratings for players translates to in the ABC system.
http://www.arizbilliardsdirectory.com/conversions.html
I guess I am looking for feedback becasue I feel his ratings conversions are incorrect and have discrepencies. My biggest issue would be with the ABC system that he proposes. He suggests:
10-2 (A+) Top professional. World class player. Capable of winning major professional tournaments. Almost always finishes in the money in any tournament entered.
10-1 (A) Professional, or player possessing professional skills. Capable of winning local open tournaments. Usually finishes in the money in regional tournaments.
10 (A-) Semi-pro, or player possessing professional skills. Capable of winning or placing high in the money in local open tournaments.
9 (B+) Advanced. Very good position play, strategy and consistency. Top league player. Consistent competitor in local open tournaments.
8 (B) Advanced. Good position play, strategy and consistency. Good league player. Competitive in local open tournaments.
7 (B-) Intermediate. Fair amount of knowledge and experience, but inconsistent in execution. Average league player.
6 (C+) Intermediate. Has learned quite a few shots, but has a lot to learn about position play and strategy. Inconsistent.
5 (C) Novice. Has a grasp of the fundamentals, but does not know much about the physics of the game. Lower-level league player.
4 (C-) Novice. Very basic knowledge of the fundamentals. Knows almost nothing about position play. Lowest-level tournament player.
3 (D+) Novice. Knows little about the fundamentals, but might know a couple of shots. Average social player.
2 (D) Novice. May not know anything about the fundamentals or making shots. Non-competitive.
1 (D-) Novice. Knows nothing about the game except maybe a few rules of play.
I personally believe that the ABC system does not stop at the "A" level. I have seen many systems and the one that I best agree with is the system that incorporates levels above "A". Joe Tucker has such a rating system for his 10 ball test and it is something along these lines:
Pro
ShortStop
Open
A
B
C
D
Novice
To me, this seems to make more sense. Of course, I do realize that most rating systems are very subjective. But I was just hoping to get some feedback from the players in Arizona as well as other players from around the country on this issue. I really hope Joe Tucker reads this thread and chimes in as well.
If I were to categorize it and translate it to the Arizona ratings system, I would use something similar to this (I don't believe there are hard cut off lines for each of the ratings):
Pro_______= 10-2's and above
ShortStop_= low 10-2's and high/mid 10-1's
Open_____= low 10-1's and high/mid 10's
A________= low 10's
B________= 9's and high 8's
C________= mid/low 8's to mid 7's
D________= low 7's to high 5's
Novice____= 4's and 5's
Any thoughts or opinons? Any type of feedback is welcome.
Ray
Edit: Yes, I know I misspelled Conversions in the thread title
Wonder if this THREAD will ever RETURN TO THE Original Topic.?
BVal said:
lol... Hey Brady... are you playing in in the next Desert Classic Tour stop? I am going to be in town... and wanted to start checking out my 8 and under pot competition. :wink:
-Carlos
BVal said:
That is not true,:angry:
BVal said:
The temperature on my planet is normal, so show me the post were I did as you said. Or be Polite & Quiet.
BVal said:
I read the entire post, you are the one who took it off the original subject.
Apparently your comprehension skills are still a little Rusty. Keep practicing. Practice makes perfect! If you want to talk further you can either PM me or keep posting your dribble in here. I am guessing it will be the latter. Have a good one.CocoboloCowboy said:
BVal
BVal said:Apparently your comprehension skills are still a little Rusty. Keep practicing. Practice makes perfect! If you want to talk further you can either PM me or keep posting your dribble in here. I am guessing it will be the latter. Have a good one.
BVal
PM you? You never reply to my PM's, even about my proposal for a challange match, with the weight I want, you paying for my gas, ice teas, etc. with what I wannted as you were the one who "offer the world". and my offer was a fair one.
CocoboloCowboy said:
Is this true Brady did he offer a game for money?
CocoboloCowboy said:
Hey CocoboloCowboy,
I'll play you. I am a 9 and I think you are an 8. I noticed that you post in the Derby City section quite often. Lets do a Derby style set. I have no idea how you play, but I will take my chances.
Full Rack Banks (i will give you 2 games going to 5)
1-pocket (i will play you 10-7 race to 3)
9-ball (i will give you 2 games to 10)
IMO that is a lot of weight. If you beat me I will pay $100. If I beat you then you have to pay for MY GAS!
I'll play any of you eights or nines at DCC for whatever you can carry 
Hey can I get this spot? :smile:breaknrun said:
I am not sure as I have never seen you play before,just fishing,I am lined up with action after people saw me and Brady aka BVal play,its must be my mechanics.Hey all of you 10 rated players,will one of you help me with my stance and bridge? :embarrassed2:breaknrun said: