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I figured I would look @ the runout on my joss and found that the joint pin is off. I am not sure if it is bent or just installad @ an angle. Anyway to tell if it is installed wrong or just bent. Anything I can do to fix it? when I screw my 314 on and dont tighten it down the cue wobbles @ the joint around an inch. When I torque down on the shaft the wobble almost goes away (around 3/8th of an inch.) If it is bent can I safely straighten it?

Thanks in advance.

JV
 
If the bend is slight, it's possible to 'massage' it back to center. This can be done with a lathe, a dial indicator, and a hammer. Not the best solution, but like I said, it's possible.
Most likely you will want the pin replaced.
 
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Johnny "V" said:
I figured I would look @ the runout on my joss and found that the joint pin is off. I am not sure if it is bent or just installad @ an angle. Anyway to tell if it is installed wrong or just bent. Anything I can do to fix it? when I screw my 314 on and dont tighten it down the cue wobbles @ the joint around an inch. When I torque down on the shaft the wobble almost goes away (around 3/8th of an inch.) If it is bent can I safely straighten it?

Thanks in advance.

JV[/QUOTE

Did this just happen all of sudden, over time, or you just purchase the cue and it's like that?

Roll the butt by itself on a smooth flat surface and watch the pin. Is it wobbling a lot, a little, or not at all. If it is barely moving out of round or not moving up and down at all when rolled you may be able to get away with just a facing both the butt and the shaft off between centers to get the two faces flat so they match up when tightened down.
How is it with the orig shaft? or shafts?

Should be an easy fix unless there is more to it......ie. warped out, pin bent majorly, some other flaw.
Thats the first thing I would check..........
Next.......Take or send to a qualified tech and have them asses the situation from there.

Good luck......
Dave
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I am almost certain I bought it this way. It was a cheap pawn shop purchase.

Sorry I guess I should have stated this... I did roll the butt by itself and yes you can see the wobble in the pin. I think that the facing of the shaft and the joint collar is straight. If I torque down on the shaft I can almost make it go away. I am sure that this is not good for the shaft putting presure on the threaded insert in the shaft.

Thanks again
 
I've straightened pins that were slightly bent with a hammer aswell....roll it on a smooth surface and note the 'high' side and using a smooth hammer and a scrap of leather or something to protect the threads give it a tap...sometimes it takes a good tap to straighten it...if it wobbles more than a 1/8th an inch from center I'd just consider replacing it...
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I've never tried straightening a pin with a hammer. If the pin rolls out just slightly because of warpage or not in straight I have straightened them slightly by putting a die or coller on the pin to protect the threads and then with the cue trued up as best as possible in the lathe putting the cross slide close to the coller or die and then putting pressure on the high side so as to bend it back into place. Much easier to control force than using a hammer.

Dick
 
Varney Cues said:
Upgrade.
Have the pin replaced with black G10 & have the shaft sleeved to fit.;)
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Why would that be considered an upgrade? The only reason replacing the original pin with G10 would be to achieve a different weight/balance. All this talk about the flexing and better resonance is all unfounded, imo. Once the butt and shaft are connected the pin's contribution to feel is negligible.

-Roger (fine..."IMHO")
 
rhncue said:
I've never tried straightening a pin with a hammer. If the pin rolls out just slightly because of warpage or not in straight I have straightened them slightly by putting a die or coller on the pin to protect the threads and then with the cue trued up as best as possible in the lathe putting the cross slide close to the coller or die and then putting pressure on the high side so as to bend it back into place. Much easier to control force than using a hammer.

Dick
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That's the way I've been doing it...JER
 
Because I sold my metal lathe before I moved to florida I will try the hammer thing.

VERY CAREFULLY

JV--- Anybody want to stop me? Anybody?? Anyone???
 
Just wanted to let you know the hammer thing worked like a charm. I was really surprised how hard I had to bang on it to get it to bend again. But then again it was probably because I did it on a piece of carpet with a rag on the threads of the pin. It took 3 good swats to get it straight.

So just a thank you to all that suggested it.
 
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