Ask The Cuemaker Topic

Michael Webb said:
Classic Cues
What about the wear of Lizard don't you like?
Mine has been on for about three years, still looks and feels great.

Mike,
Because lizard is "plated" some real uneven wear occurs, I have spots in my
wrap that are very high or like new and some very low, almost smooth leather. I know its all hand positioning, but I like a little more consistency over the length of the wrap. At this point, its not very attractive either.

Joe
 
cuemaking

Pin said:
Hi Blud,

A more general question - how do I get into making cues ? (I'm in the UK so I'll never be in competition with you!)

What are the basic tools and techniques required, what woods should I be using and where can I get them ?

Thanks, Pin

Pin, I sent you a private mail, check your PM box.
blud
 
wraps

classiccues said:
Mike,
Because lizard is "plated" some real uneven wear occurs, I have spots in my
wrap that are very high or like new and some very low, almost smooth leather. I know its all hand positioning, but I like a little more consistency over the length of the wrap. At this point, its not very attractive either.

Joe
Joe, that's why I use only pig, and sometimes calf skins. They split very easily. They are consistance in thickness and look nice over a long time.
blud
 
leather

Joseph Cues said:
Blud, don't hold back.
Do you cringe looking at some cuemakers' leatherwork when their leather wrap have bulges, shoeshined edges and pretty rough? :D
I saw some at the Marina del Rey show last November. A ton of nice looking cues but some leather work were laugheable. They should have called you for leather wrapping lessons and your jig. :D

Hi Joseph

Don't want to knock. Hell I get knocked by some for breathing. You know who they are. As founder of the ACA, I get knocked quite a bit. Most would still be in a small garage, if I hadn't of put it together...No one would know them from adam........I wish all cuemakers well..........

Selling hell out of my new tip jigs.

thanks for your nice comments.
blud
 
blud said:
Hi Joseph

Don't want to knock. Hell I get knocked by some for breathing. You know who they are. As founder of the ACA, I get knocked quite a bit. Most would still be in a small garage, if I hadn't of put it together...No one would know them from adam........I wish all cuemakers well..........

Selling hell out of my new tip jigs.

thanks for your nice comments.
blud

Blud,

What new tip jigs???

Thanks

Jon
 
jig

BiG_JoN said:
Blud,

What new tip jigs???

Thanks

Jon

Hi Jon, I build a tip pressing jig that allows you to make the tip as hard as you want, It now sells for $50.0 plus a few bucks for shipping, instructions included. Let me know.
830-232-5991
blud
 
to indianaguy......i really feel like you were making a smartass comment in what you said when i was addressed as to what i do.......you are right i dont do anything but not out of choice....cancer decided to take control of my life so i have to live how it wants me to......just really hop im wrong in thinking you were being that way ,instead of leaving something that wasnt addressed to you alone.....i hope nothing like this ever befalls you are anyone you love as i promise it makes for a whole different lifestyle.....juston coleman
 
cuewiz

cuewhiz, I've been hassling with the same problem for several yrs. Try to live your life to the best of your ability within the limitations it imposes on you. What is --is--what we do with it defiines us. Best of luck to you.
 
Classic Cues
I'll be at Bristol billiards all day SaturdaY (today)
Bring it by, I may be able to fix what you have. It don't hurt to take a look
 
hey gerald.....i have worked hard to live with it....ask leonard i dont ask for sympathy just am not scared to educate others......i have learned alot from him,don,sarah and many others.....you are right it is what it is.....but just didnt appreciate the insinuation that was made by that guy......i only wish the best to everyone.....i am glad that i have experienced what i have as it has helped me grow in alot of ways.....take care all, juston coleman
 
classiccues said:
Chris,
Lizard skin wraps from reputable cuemakers are lizard skin.


Joe and Michael Webb,

Thanks for the info. I like the feel and look of lizard and leather. I sure don't like the cost of lizard! Once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to linen.

Chris
 
Michael Webb said:
Classic Cues
What about the wear of Lizard don't you like?
Mine has been on for about three years, still looks and feels great.

Michael,

I have heard of your expertise here - can you tell me what you charge for a lizard wrap?

Chris
 
TATE said:
Joe and Michael Webb,

Thanks for the info. I like the feel and look of lizard and leather. I sure don't like the cost of lizard! Once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to linen.

Chris

Chris,
You know why they are so expensive? You go try and catch one.. :)

Joe
 
classiccues said:
Chris,
You know why they are so expensive? You go try and catch one.. :)

Joe

Joe,

No wonder elephant ear is so expensive! That's why you need an apprentice.

Chris
 
juston

TATE said:
Joe,

No wonder elephant ear is so expensive! That's why you need an apprentice.

Chris


To all, Juston has been sick for quite a spell. God bless, and I hope he has him for a full recovery.

I got this topic started for questions about cues. Please show respect for others who have interest in cues and related issues.

Please folks, no personal attacts.

Thanks very much.

Blud
 
thanks blud.....hope janice is better.....give a hug from me and tell ehr i am waiting on a burger and a big red.....


now back to the subject.....blud..a question on past a present techinique.....in joining the handle and the forearm what technique do you think is the best....the tenon with the weight bolt and tenon going into the handle....the all wood tenon which is use by some guys,(hard to see how this could be done with v-points)....the tenon going into the forearm(saw a guy that done this with point..would think you are asking for problems that way).....just joining two piece of wood together with a flat face on each surface ....and last but not least the use of a pheolinc ring with both the handle and the forearm having tenons that go inside the pheniloc....and with that last one ho long would be to long for the phenolic as i would think it would cause a weight issue......almost forgot about what some guys have done sleeving the forearm on a piece of laminated material just like the butt sleeve.....i know or believe that all of these would affect hit and would definitely affect durability.....i just though this would be a good topic......juston
 
cue

cuewhiz189 said:
thanks blud.....hope janice is better.....give a hug from me and tell ehr i am waiting on a burger and a big red.....


now back to the subject.....blud..a question on past a present techinique.....in joining the handle and the forearm what technique do you think is the best....the tenon with the weight bolt and tenon going into the handle....the all wood tenon which is use by some guys,(hard to see how this could be done with v-points)....the tenon going into the forearm(saw a guy that done this with point..would think you are asking for problems that way).....just joining two piece of wood together with a flat face on each surface ....and last but not least the use of a pheolinc ring with both the handle and the forearm having tenons that go inside the pheniloc....and with that last one ho long would be to long for the phenolic as i would think it would cause a weight issue......almost forgot about what some guys have done sleeving the forearm on a piece of laminated material just like the butt sleeve.....i know or believe that all of these would affect hit and would definitely affect durability.....i just though this would be a good topic......juston


Some guys do the things your speaking of cause it's easy, cheap, and they just either do not understand the problems that it could cause or they do not care. I feel you should build a cue that will with stand the elements, and abuse some folks dish out.[to a degree].......I know of a couple of cuemakers who use a wooden tenon to a wooden socket, and they have little or no trouble. Not me, pal, ain't taken no chances..........

I use a tenon on the back of the front and also have a tenon on the handle. I use a phenolic between the tow woth about, .010 clearance, with a drilled weep hole for the glue pressure to release from the two. The bolt as you say can be from 2.5" up to 8.0".......The phenolic is not a weight issue, as you allow for it when sizing the lenght of the all thread.

With VEE pointed cues I do the same thing as with floating points. Both have tenons,all-thread bolt, and a phenolic ring.
I feel a wooden tenon, going into a wooden socket, is wrong, with a steel all-thread and or a wooden thread.

It sure as hell isn't as strong as the phenolic ring. Put a little side ways stress on the cue and with wooden sockets you could split the handle and or back of the front. The same goes with flat face handle to a flat face rear of a front.
The phenolic ring will keep all in check. Glue the ring up on the back of the front, then place it between centers in the lathe, and re-machine the face of the back of the phenolic ring, now it's flat and square, ready to except the flat, and square machined handle.

You got to remember, some who talk about cues here have never built one and do not know which way is best, they either are guessing at which way is best, or they are repeating what they have heard from whoever. Most of them do not have a clue to which is best.Remember these types are in it for the money only..Sure I make great money buildng cues for you folks. But it's from my heart first.........

I could of many years ago, just built nice looking cues and sold hell out of them for the cash. But no, I built great playing cues first, and then the cosmetics came last....



Hell one cuemakers in the east, claims to be an engineer. He's a electrical engineer. How would that help building cues??? He's just got to have a title.
Hell, I am self taught. I just be a bubba.
My stuff plays well....Don't need any other crediits....
blud
 
forearms

well now that we havve that question worked on heres another.....

whats the real advantage or disadvantage in the three main point.....1-pantographed,2-short plice v-points,3- full splice v-point(burton spain type),butterfly.....i as a aspiring and lnowledgeable beginner can see the flaws in some but not in others.....help us out blu......maybe i am asking things that are above most beginners heads....or maybe im not the beginner i think i am......i can keep em coming all day......juston
 
blud, please help

i have a nice mottey cue, or should say i had a nice mottey cue. heres my story , sent the cue to be refinished,[nothing major wrong just a few dings] came back looking nice[very nice], i not used to rolling a cue on flat surface because all of my cues seem to be in good condition. BUT when resting the other day, one of my buddies asks if he can hit with it, of course the answer isyes, then he rolls on table, big wobble - shaft lifts right up - after just being refinished [rewrapped and finished] - any ideas? shafts alone are straight, butt alone raises. help. JMB AMY, minbneapolis, minn.
 
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