Atlas Double Black Phenolic...thumbs down!
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Chad told me two years ago they were getting a new maker/supplier for it.
I should have bought a ton then.
I should have bought a ton then.
And after it's coated with finish it looks like the finish has sand in it. Once it's sanded and coated a 2nd time it's okay though.jazznpool said:
I have found the quality of a few of their products to be very poor compaired to what they were a few years ago. I have returned the phenolic black and some of the Ivorine 3 because the quality was horrible. Discoloration,pitting and brown spots.
JoeyInCali said:Chad told me two years ago they were getting a new maker/supplier for it.
I should have bought a ton then.
I can't say he did'nt warn me, He told me a couple of times that if you find a material Your happy with to stock up while I could, but that was mainly due to the epa shutting different materials down from production, altough he mentioned that they were checking samples out, and described a few to me. Needless to say this news is discouraging. I was really happy with the stuff I've had, and I'm running very low on It now. I like the fact he does'nt sugar coat anything, I have asked about materials before, and he told me straight up about the characteristics of what they had in stock at the time, whether the news was good or bad, so that's the most I could ask for out of anyone, and all My dealings with them have been good so far.
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I got some 1.375 od from them about a month ago and it looked really good. A couple of months ago I got some I wasn't happy with.
jazznpool said:
Not as black and it machines different. My problem is that I have about 30 butts hanging right now and some have the collars on them. I'll have to cut them off and change them so that the shafts will match.
Besides the shade difference, it definitely machines different and not for the better. It's more pitted.
Michael Webb said:
I was getting my phenolics directly from a manufacturer for a few years until they were bought out and quit selling smaller orders. I bought a batch from Atlas a few months ago and started to make a comment on here about how disapointed I was with the material.
Dick
rhncue said:
They did this a few years ago and that stuff was terrible to work with too. But the positive side is, At least when they buy a sub standard product, they don't dare lower the price. Sorry Atlas, I just couldn't resist. The down side is, everyone has become so dependant on what they offer, WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT! I chose a different route a few years ago, I support Prathers as much as possible, at least I get to deal with someone who uses what we use and goes through what we go through.
Michael Webb said:
TAP, TAP Mike.
Me too. Since the color has gotten a little worse, I have found new value in black India Ink. =)
stix4sale said:false advertising. they should call it double grey linen
i've had the same problem recently
prather's dbl any better?
That's a good question, I am still working with older stock.
Here's where I bought my last batck of phenolics, I think there is a $50 minimum order. Heres the link hope this helps http://www.acculam.com/home.htm
Matt
Matt
That may be the place where I used to get all my phenolics. I think those are the same cities but a different name. I called the tel.# I used to have to contact the person whom I ordered my pheneoics from and the person answering said that the company had been bought out and she no longer worked there and that they were doing away with many of the products they used to make. The name he gave me of the new companies name and it wasn't this one however. He didn't know what they were doing away with nor the new prices of what they were going to carry. He told me that the he thought the new minumum was going to be 1,000.00 per item and a 2,000.00 minimum order. This may not be the case now. I'm going to call tomorrow and see what they have. The original mfg. I was getting it from took from 5 to 8 weeks to deliver an order as everything was manufactured to your specs. They made any size phenolics you wanted and their melamine ferrule material was great as was the double black. They used to be about 3.00 a foot cheaper than Atlas but I thought the quality of their materials was much better.candyman said:
Dick
candyman said:
How lond does it usually take to get an order? While looking at their Chip gallary I did not see the standard black, do they carry it?
Stupid question time:
How dark do they get after wet sanding?
I would like to get something that would come close to matching the Burl I am using in this cue
