AZB Money List

RED NAXELA

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The AZB Money List shows the following as top tournament money winners (men)for the last 5 years:
2000 Earl Strickland
2001 Efren Reyes
2002 Efren Reyes
2003 Johnny Archer
2004 Efren Reyes
Incidentally, in the years that Efren did not top the list, he placed either second or third. After his dominant performance at the DCC, he is leading everybody by a mile this year. Despite the talk of hungry, brilliant young players coming to replace them these many years, the veterans continue to show the way.
 
No one's disputing that, Red. But it will be just a matter of time and we'll see different players on that list. I think Alex Pagulayan is catching up real fast (he was 2nd on the money list last year) and Corey Deuel's strong performance at the recent DCC even after a long haitus shows he's got what it takes. Who will be our next Pool Idol?
 
RED NAXELA said:
The AZB Money List shows the following as top tournament money winners (men)for the last 5 years:
2000 Earl Strickland
2001 Efren Reyes
2002 Efren Reyes
2003 Johnny Archer
2004 Efren Reyes
Incidentally, in the years that Efren did not top the list, he placed either second or third. After his dominant performance at the DCC, he is leading everybody by a mile this year. Despite the talk of hungry, brilliant young players coming to replace them these many years, the veterans continue to show the way.


also take notice that strickland, reyes, and archer all have sponsors of some sort..........that means paid entry fees, lodging, etc, etc............its alot easier to make alot of money when you're playing in alot of tournaments........
 
vapoolplayer said:
also take notice that strickland, reyes, and archer all have sponsors of some sort..........that means paid entry fees, lodging, etc, etc............its alot easier to make alot of money when you're playing in alot of tournaments........

How true, VApoolplayer!

Another thing to consider in the scheme of things is that some of the Asian-Pacific tours in which our Philippino champions -- notice I say "our" (LOL) -- compete in are RESTRICTED to pool players' country of origin or citizenship. So players like German WPC Champion Hohmann or American champions like Johnny Archer are not allowed to play in some of the Asian-Pacific lucrative tours overseas. Yet, our Asian-Pacific comrades are welcome here in the States to compete in our Open events.

The Billiard Congress of AMERICA has an Open every year in Las Vegas which reserves 32 spots for foreign players out of a 64-player field, with the other 32 reserved for the highest UPA-ranked players.

Then, if you throw the UPA in or any other so-called "professional organization" in the mix, there are some events where a player like Earl Strickland, as one sole example, did not get the opportunity to compete. Fortunately, organizations like Matchroom Sport is the pool-politics buster for some American professional players. They do not limit their events to UPA-ranked players, a ranking system which excludes some American players, like Earl Strickland, Jose Parica, and non-UPA members. Poor old Jose may be ranked high on the UPA ranking system, but he's not eligible to represent the United States in the WPC because of citizenship. Jose Parica got into the WPC last year through Matchroom Sport, as did Earl Strickland.

Not taking a thing away from Efren Reyes or Alex Pagulayan. In fact, I believe they're top shelf. It's just a fact in this pool world here in the United States, some pool players don't get a chance to drink from the same waters as others due to pool politics, restrictions, and economic impossibilities.

The expenses to play pool full time far outweigh the payouts in today's pool world. When attending the U.S. Open, a player could feasibly be stuck $2,500 with the travel, lodging, and entry fee expenses before hitting the first ball.

Imagine flying all over the world to attend pool tournaments. When you play pool full time, most aspiring players would like to at least get out and compete at two or more times per month. There are many professional players here in the States who do not derive the bulk of their income from playing pool and have real full-time jobs to keep a roof over their heads. So, in essence, they're part-time professionals, and due to work obligations can't keep up with the pack.

The rich get richer, and the poor remain at the bottom.

JMHO, FWIW!

JAM
 
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JAM said:
How true, VApoolplayer!

Another thing to consider in the scheme of things is that some of the Asian-Pacific tours in which our Philippino champions -- notice I say "our" (LOL) -- compete in are RESTRICTED to pool players' country of origin or citizenship. So players like German WPC Champion Hohmann or American champions like Johnny Archer are not allowed to play in some of the Asian-Pacific lucrative tours overseas. Yet, our Asian-Pacific comrades are welcome here in the States to compete in our Open events.

The Billiard Congress of AMERICA has an Open every year in Las Vegas which reserves 32 spots for foreign players out of a 64-player field, with the other 32 reserved for the highest UPA-ranked players.

Then, if you throw the UPA in or any other so-called "professional organization" in the mix, there are some events where a player like Earl Strickland, as one sole example, did not get the opportunity to compete.

Fortunately, organizations like Matchroom Sport is the pool-politics buster for some American professional players. They do not limit their events to UPA-ranked players, a ranking system which excludes some American players, like Earl, Jose Parica, and other non-UPA members.

Not taking a thing away from Efren Reyes or Alex Pagulayan. In fact, I believe they're top shelf. It's just a fact in this pool world here in the United States, some pool players don't get a chance to drink from the same waters as others due to pool politics, restrictions, and economic impossibilities.

The expenses to play pool full time far outweigh the payouts in today's pool world. When attending the U.S. Open, a player could feasibly be stuck $2,500 with the travel, lodging, and entry fee expenses before hitting the first ball.

Imagine flying all over the world to attend pool tournaments. When you play pool full time, most aspiring players would like to at least get out and compete at two or more times per month. There are many professional players here in the States who do not derive the bulk of their income from playing pool and have real full-time jobs to keep a roof over their heads. So, in essence, they're part-time professionals, and due to work obligations can't keep up with the pack. The rich get richer, and the poor remain at the bottom.

JMHO, FWIW!

JAM

Great post, JAM. It's easy to forget that the playing field isn't really level for all competitors in our sport.....that is, it's easy for those not smart enough to read your posts to forget!
 
JAM said:
How true, VApoolplayer!

Another thing to consider in the scheme of things is that some of the Asian-Pacific tours in which our Philippino champions -- notice I say "our" (LOL) -- compete in are RESTRICTED to pool players' country of origin or citizenship.

The Billiard Congress of AMERICA has an Open every year in Las Vegas which reserves 32 spots for foreign players out of a 64-player field, with the other 32 reserved for the highest UPA-ranked players.


JAM


i did some caluculating.......in 04 reyes made 34,750 or so just in the san miguel tourneys........which are only open to asian players........would he have won that much if the rest of the world was there??.........maybe, maybe not.......but that 35 grand is what put him on top of the money list.....

its funny how the bca has an "OPEN" event, but then you have to get invited.........that sounds like it should be called the "BCA Invitational".......but hey what do i know.......i guess they don't own a dictionary......

thanks
 
Corey Deuel won most of his money from winning the ring games. As some have pointed out Reyes won on the Asian tour. The money list goes to the begining of 2004 and may include the latter of 2003. It would be nice if they would make a money list of the players who came in 2nd-4th on all of the American tournaments. Much different scale.

It just goes to show that if you are not a consistant top 2-4 players in the world, you will not make a good living playing pool. Just the other day a bowling (PBA) tournament in Alabama (or somewhere near there) paid 40K for first, 20K for second and 3-4th got 10K. I am sure the rest of the field did pretty well...
 
Renegade said:
Who will be our next Pool Idol?


That's a good question and there are a number of candidates leading the way, IMO Alex is the frontrunner with the talent, charisma, and definitely the outgoing personality to be the next Efren.
 
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