AzB's 2006 Entrant Into The U.S.Open

My nomination

My Friend Mike Fuller finished 49th last year. He has references here ask steve logan how well he plays. I'm sure someone here knows of Mike that plays in the Raliegh/Durham Area. No one in the state of North Carolina has got to win playing him. Please consider. Thanks!:D
 
unknownpro said:
Why are you so confused? You're confusing me. Where are you from anyway? Are you going to spot me 70 points in snooker? Do you think I'm lying about something? If I give you the 7 and rob you will you still want to know?

unknownpro
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Im not confused about anything just realised its going to be a bit tricky paying your entry and following your progess if we don't know your name! :D

You sound like a fine player, a world beater no less, I know your a great player, Efren told me you're his idol too! (even though he wouldnt tell me your name either!) :confused:

PS
Your going to spot me 70 at snooker?
 
TheOne said:
Im not confused about anything just realised its going to be a bit tricky paying your entry and following your progess if we don't know your name! :D

You sound like a fine player, a world beater no less, I know your a great player, Efren told me you're his idol too! (even though he wouldnt tell me your name either!) :confused:

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Your going to spot me 70 at snooker?
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Sorry about the attitude, I was a little ticked yesterday over other issues. I only posted to put my unname in because other professionals seemed to be throwing their names in the hat. I didn't think that was right until I read some of the other posts, so I figured what the hell. I thought it was obvious I'd have to divulge my name to get the money. But y'all could just leave it under the trash can outside the convention center for me.

You laughed at my post about 70 point runs in snooker, so I thought you could spot me 70. I don't gamble, I quit when I was 11, but I was thinking about taking that habit back up just because I'm broke. I was out of line saying I'd give you the 7, because I don't gamble, and I've never seen you play anyway. I'm sure you are a world-beater also.

Everyone knows Parica is Efren's idol. He tells me he never loses to him gambling. I hope you don't think I was implying you are a shortstop. Andam offered Reid Pierce the 7 after he won the U.S. Open. Doesn't make him a shortstop, at least not in the USA, lol!

Funny thing is, you gave me a big compliment a couple of weeks ago, and you don't even know what it was about, so if I tell you my name, then you will realize how much I have already done for you, lol!

unknownpro
 
sniper said:
Unless your willing to give us your name I wouldn't bother wasting your time with this thread.


Since Jimmy M has dropped out, I like the sounds of crownitcorey going. His credentials are pretty well known and he certainly has the game to upset some of the big guys.
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Of course, see post above. I don't know Corey, but 17th is a very good finish at the Open. I think I went 2 and out my first time, like some other "world beaters" here, lol. And my highest finish was either 13th or 17th, I'll have to look it up. Probably 17th. But the tables are tighter now, I hear, which I like. And I wasn't able to play the year I won the warmup tournament.

unknownpro
 
unknownpro said:
Sorry about the attitude, I was a little ticked yesterday over other issues. I only posted to put my unname in because other professionals seemed to be throwing their names in the hat. I didn't think that was right until I read some of the other posts, so I figured what the hell. I thought it was obvious I'd have to divulge my name to get the money. But y'all could just leave it under the trash can outside the convention center for me.

You laughed at my post about 70 point runs in snooker, so I thought you could spot me 70. I don't gamble, I quit when I was 11, but I was thinking about taking that habit back up just because I'm broke. I was out of line saying I'd give you the 7, because I don't gamble, and I've never seen you play anyway. I'm sure you are a world-beater also.

Everyone knows Parica is Efren's idol. He tells me he never loses to him gambling. I hope you don't think I was implying you are a shortstop. Andam offered Reid Pierce the 7 after he won the U.S. Open. Doesn't make him a shortstop, at least not in the USA, lol!

Funny thing is, you gave me a big compliment a couple of weeks ago, and you don't even know what it was about, so if I tell you my name, then you will realize how much I have already done for you, lol!

unknownpro
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LOL you make me laugh anyway hehe. I don't do spots but even if I did I don't think 7 is much at all, hardly worth 20 points at snooker. 70 would be like giving the 3 and out! If you've never seen me play and I payed you a compliment then you'd have to be a well known banker, but then he already posts here under real name - you're not using two names now are you, thats just a short stop from the asylum! Anyway I'd start gambing again if I was you, given your ability you'll be able to retire in no time! :)

PS
If the ancient snooker quip still hurts I take it back ;)
 
TheOne said:
LOL you make me laugh anyway hehe. I don't do spots but even if I did I don't think 7 is much at all, hardly worth 20 points at snooker. 70 would be like giving the 3 and out! If you've never seen me play and I payed you a compliment then you'd have to be a well known banker, but then he already posts here under real name - you're not using two names now are you, thats just a short stop from the asylum! Anyway I'd start gambing again if I was you, given your ability you'll be able to retire in no time! :)

PS
If the ancient snooker quip still hurts I take it back ;)
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That's what I thought. A 70 point spot in snooker would be huge. A 70 point run is far greater because there may not be very many points left on the table. So I couldn't understand your disdain for mere American snooker players who run 60's and 70's constantly. It's very hard to beat. Yes it still hurts because I thought I knew something about snooker since it was the main game played in our poolroom. I appreciate you taking it back. Now I can sleep at night.

I'm no banker, I don't know what you're talking about. Just like you don't know what I'm talking about, but maybe you'll figure it out. You did give me (indirectly) a great compliment that I do really appreciate. I guess I should ask your permission before I use it in print. Or maybe it'll be an "unsolicited testimonial". I wouldn't think you'd mind, since I'm sure you mean what you say. But I have some other things to check on before I try to make use of your glorious praise of my remarkable achievement in pocket billiards to help reverse my financial predicament, so there's no rush to decide.

As far as gambling, I try to stay away from it because I don't enjoy taking money from people as much as I hate losing it. And it's hard to gamble without being addicted to gambling. I like to be addicted to pool instead. So tournaments are much more fun, if I can find some that'll actually let players in. Now a 10-ahead set for a spot in the Open...

unknownpro
 
Now a 10-ahead set for a spot in the Open...

unknownpro[/QUOTE]



It's a good idea really. Doubt that will happen but if it does don't forget to give me the credit for the idea. hehe. Take all the choices and let them play 10 ahead sets in a single elimination tourn. The winner gets to go. Most of the time the best player will come out on top in a ahead set obviously. Flip it up. I call heads.
 
Just my .02...
I think the nominees should be an active contributor to the AZB forum, be able to prove their abilities (past performances, training received, etc) and should NOT have already competed in the US Open. As someone else mentioned, we are not "backing" a player, we are giving a player the opportunity of a life time that may not have ever presented itself without our help.

I'm not taking away from those that we've sent in the past, but they should be excluded from the list. Anyone that is already at a Pro level should also be excluded. The likely candidate (IMO) should be someone that has their heart in it, someone that normally wouldn't have this opportunity (financial status, physical location, etc) and this opportunity could greatly increase their passion for our sport!

I agree that each candidate (nominated or self-nominated) should write a brief bio and post it in a dedicated sticky thread (once it's up and ready & ONLY the bios be posted. Another thread could be started for comments and votes), we should give a deadline for bios to be posted, then everyone can vote. I suggest 1 vote per $20 donation. Everyone can "suggest" who they like, but only the "donated" votes would count. The votes are kept secret until the end, keeping it in suspense for all parties involved.

Best of luck to all nominees!
Zim
 
Now this is getting interesting, and it has given me a great idea. Seeing how we have many that would like to go, and the "voting" would seem as if it were a popularity contest, perhaps we should make this a competition so that the "player" earns his spot and the honor of representing Azbilliards.

We can go on and on about which player should be chosen, OR we can find the best player.

So here is what I propose...

Hold a 5 man ring game - each player needs to post up $300 - or forum members can sponsor a player of their choice - whatever. That's $1500 that would pay for the entrance fee and expenses. If you want the $1500 (which includes entry into the US Open) - earn it! All that needs to be done is to pick a time and a location. If you want the spot, collect the $300 and toss your name in the hat and show up and play. Its that simple. The winner goes to Chesapeake. We can keep this system and use it every year. This way we have the money raised - the player that wins EARNS his spot - and it makes it interesting. Josh, you still in? Unknownpro? Corey? Anyone willing to back their player?
 
Blackjack said:
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We can go on and on about which player should be chosen, OR we can find the best player.

So here is what I propose...

Hold a 5 man ring game - ... The winner goes to Chesapeake...
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That would be cool, but geographicall, not fair to all...
 
Blackjack said:
Now this is getting interesting, and it has given me a great idea. Seeing how we have many that would like to go, and the "voting" would seem as if it were a popularity contest, perhaps we should make this a competition so that the "player" earns his spot and the honor of representing Azbilliards.

We can go on and on about which player should be chosen, OR we can find the best player.

So here is what I propose...

Hold a 5 man ring game - each player needs to post up $300 - or forum members can sponsor a player of their choice - whatever. That's $1500 that would pay for the entrance fee and expenses. If you want the $1500 (which includes entry into the US Open) - earn it! All that needs to be done is to pick a time and a location. If you want the spot, collect the $300 and toss your name in the hat and show up and play. Its that simple. The winner goes to Chesapeake. We can keep this system and use it every year. This way we have the money raised - the player that wins EARNS his spot - and it makes it interesting. Josh, you still in? Unknownpro? Corey? Anyone willing to back their player?
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Not bad Bj but not sure how this benifits a player if they have to put up the $300 themselves? How about you raise the $1500 through donations as per usual or whatever amount, then any AZ player that goes to chesapeake with more than x amount of AZ posts gets to play in a ring game for the cash? All the player has to do is make it to chesapeake, if they don't make it they can go home, we can reserve one spot in the open with the $500 and give the name to Barry when the ring game is over?
 
TheOne said:
Not bad Bj but not sure how this benifits a player if they have to put up the $300 themselves? How about you raise the $1500 through donations as per usual or whatever amount, then any AZ player that goes to chesapeake with more than x amount of AZ posts gets to play in a ring game for the cash? All the player has to do is make it to chesapeake, if they don't make it they can go home, we can reserve one spot in the open with the $500 and give the name to Barry when the ring game is over?
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We can still receive the donations - forum members can sponsor a player into the ring game - we just need to know which players are willing to compete. IMO, $300 per player isn't steep at all - especially when forum members are able to donate. I'm pretty sure all the forum regulars would not be opposed donating $20 -$30. As far as being "geographically unfair" - I think Craig's idea solves that problem. Just show up in Chesapeake. This eliminates any problems with our player showing up... he'll already be there. Problem solved. We can also (if everybody approves) just trim the total money collected for teh players down to $500 (the entry) and set up a separate fund for expenses.
 
Zims Rack said:
Just my .02...
I think the nominees should be an active contributor to the AZB forum, be able to prove their abilities (past performances, training received, etc) and should NOT have already competed in the US Open. As someone else mentioned, we are not "backing" a player, we are giving a player the opportunity of a life time that may not have ever presented itself without our help.

I'm not taking away from those that we've sent in the past, but they should be excluded from the list. Anyone that is already at a Pro level should also be excluded. The likely candidate (IMO) should be someone that has their heart in it, someone that normally wouldn't have this opportunity (financial status, physical location, etc) and this opportunity could greatly increase their passion for our sport!

I agree that each candidate (nominated or self-nominated) should write a brief bio and post it in a dedicated sticky thread (once it's up and ready & ONLY the bios be posted. Another thread could be started for comments and votes), we should give a deadline for bios to be posted, then everyone can vote. I suggest 1 vote per $20 donation. Everyone can "suggest" who they like, but only the "donated" votes would count. The votes are kept secret until the end, keeping it in suspense for all parties involved.

Best of luck to all nominees!
Zim
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I agree. I can get backed in the open if I really wanted to go, and there will be friends their to stay with. I prefer paying my own way so no one is second guessing my shot selection. Doubt is deadly. Is it full yet? I've got to practice, later. (We can still play 10-ahead sets)

unknownpro
 
Blackjack said:
We can still receive the donations - forum members can sponsor a player into the ring game - we just need to know which players are willing to compete. IMO, $300 per player isn't steep at all - especially when forum members are able to donate. I'm pretty sure all the forum regulars would not be opposed donating $20 -$30. As far as being "geographically unfair" - I think Craig's idea solves that problem. Just show up in Chesapeake. This eliminates any problems with our player showing up... he'll already be there. Problem solved. We can also (if everybody approves) just trim the total money collected for teh players down to $500 (the entry) and set up a separate fund for expenses.
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Re: the geographic issue:
Don't get me wrong- I like the idea of some kind of skill filter...but, I am in VA and the CA folks are already starting at a disadvantage, comparatively.
 
Blackjack said:
Now this is getting interesting, and it has given me a great idea. Seeing how we have many that would like to go, and the "voting" would seem as if it were a popularity contest, perhaps we should make this a competition so that the "player" earns his spot and the honor of representing Azbilliards.

We can go on and on about which player should be chosen, OR we can find the best player.

So here is what I propose...

Hold a 5 man ring game - each player needs to post up $300 - or forum members can sponsor a player of their choice - whatever. That's $1500 that would pay for the entrance fee and expenses. If you want the $1500 (which includes entry into the US Open) - earn it! All that needs to be done is to pick a time and a location. If you want the spot, collect the $300 and toss your name in the hat and show up and play. Its that simple. The winner goes to Chesapeake. We can keep this system and use it every year. This way we have the money raised - the player that wins EARNS his spot - and it makes it interesting. Josh, you still in? Unknownpro? Corey? Anyone willing to back their player?
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A ring game will not really detect the best player of the group. A player may get left bad numerous game in a row, someone could make it on the break or combos numerous games in a row, and on and on. You want to get the best player of the bunch it's gonna be by playin ahead sets like I stated earlier in the post. How can one not see that this is correct? I mean no offense I'm just simply saying. If you honestly want the best players of the bunch to shine through as all say they do then it needs to be done in ahead sets.

Thanks,

Josh Hillard
 
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I don't think a "qualification" tournament is the best route to go, JMO! If we wanted to send the best of the nominated, we would be "backing" them and I don't think that's the concept of what AZB Family is trying to do.

Again, JMO!
Zim
 
Zims Rack said:
I don't think a "qualification" tournament is the best route to go, JMO! If we wanted to send the best of the nominated, we would be "backing" them and I don't think that's the concept of what AZB Family is trying to do.

Again, JMO!
Zim
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What is trying to be done is to send someone who hasn't been nor could afford to go from what I understand. No offense but someone without a chance of winning shouldn't be going anyways unless they paid their own way. I don't know. I think this is pretty wacky that you wouldn't want to let the choices battle it out on fair playing terms like an ahead set to see who got the honor to go. As stated just my opinion.
 
Nine Ball said:
What is trying to be done is to send someone who hasn't been nor could afford to go from what I understand. No offense but someone without a chance of winning shouldn't be going anyways unless they paid their own way. I don't know. I think this is pretty wacky that you wouldn't want to let the choices battle it out on fair playing terms like an ahead set to see who got the honor to go. As stated just my opinion.
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This was the original idea when we first did it.

IMO, the whole idea was to pick a person that wasn't necessarily the best player but someone who could be competitive, was an AZB poster (not just a hit n runner) and would be willing to give the board updates and action stories. I don't know how it turned into such an esoteric process. Origianlly, everyone sent in money and made one vote for their candidate. Simple.


Eric
 
unknownpro said:
That's what I thought. A 70 point spot in snooker would be huge. A 70 point run is far greater because there may not be very many points left on the table. So I couldn't understand your disdain for mere American snooker players who run 60's and 70's constantly. It's very hard to beat. Yes it still hurts because I thought I knew something about snooker since it was the main game played in our poolroom. I appreciate you taking it back. Now I can sleep at night.

I'm no banker, I don't know what you're talking about. Just like you don't know what I'm talking about, but maybe you'll figure it out. You did give me (indirectly) a great compliment that I do really appreciate. I guess I should ask your permission before I use it in print. Or maybe it'll be an "unsolicited testimonial". I wouldn't think you'd mind, since I'm sure you mean what you say. But I have some other things to check on before I try to make use of your glorious praise of my remarkable achievement in pocket billiards to help reverse my financial predicament, so there's no rush to decide.

As far as gambling, I try to stay away from it because I don't enjoy taking money from people as much as I hate losing it. And it's hard to gamble without being addicted to gambling. I like to be addicted to pool instead. So tournaments are much more fun, if I can find some that'll actually let players in. Now a 10-ahead set for a spot in the Open...

unknownpro
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LOL I just figured out who you are and it's really funny! :D

Hmmm let me see,you mention the arrogant snooker players, now where have I heard that before? You are an American "Pro" but never seen me play so that rules out rules out most of the top players given the comps I've played in in the last year. You also talk about writing books and seem in general to overstate your knowledge, particulary about Snooker where you considered guys making 70 breaks regulary to be world class.

I know who you are! Want to play 10 ahead for a house? :D
 
I haven't read through this thread yet but I'd like to propose that we add Craig Riley aka The One.

Also, shouldn't this thread by a sticky? Or do we have to have the nominees listed as a poll first?
 
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