Bad Joint Protectors made by Lonnie Wilber, he will not refund? what would you do?

Kelly_Guy said:
"If he is within driving distance, well I'd rather not say what I would do!"

That sounds to me like a hint of a physical threat. I think that is what wizard was referring to. You say you don't discriminate by handicap, does that mean you would inflict violence on them equally? Would your urge to deck a man in a wheelchair over $60 be the same as decking an able bodied man?

I don't think the maker of the jp's should be given a free pass either, not at all, but the statement you made seemed insensitive to me.

Kelly
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Kelly_Guy, like what my statement said " . . ., I'd rather not say what I would do." That could mean many things. Maybe I just want to step on those JPs in front of him, maybe I want to show it to him face to face that both JPs don't fit or maybe throw it to the sky or whatever that pop in my mind at that given time. Who knows but I was implying that I want the JP maker to see that as a customer, I'm not happy with his work, PERIOD.

Well let's move along. I'm not one of his customer and I won't be. I just believe if a cuemaker or JP maker can't do his job, the customer is entitled for a full refund. I know a cuemaker that would make a cue and if the customer doesn't satisfy, he'll make you another one within a reasonable turn around time. If the customer still not satisfy, he just simply request the cue back, in the original condition and give a FULL refund to the customer. That's what you call Customer Service.

In this JPs particular case, I believe the customer should return both sets of the JPs and the JP maker in return refund the money either in full or $60 minus his time to work on those JPs. $50 sounds fair.

Thank's
Steve
 
i wish he lived near me, i wouldnt physically harm him but i would like to se hm face to face and show him what real jp's are. ironically i was referred to him from here. that is why i posted it in case anyone else heard of him or is going to him.

he contacted me back finally and he is only willing to exchange them for another set i would like. what doesnt he understand?
 
$60 J/p

Okay, it's not my money first of all and initially I would probably be more than a little pissed, but on the brighter side, what a conversation piece. You could become famous, for owning the most butt ugly,high priced, unique, worst set of J/P I have ever had the pleasure of seeing!:D
You might be surprised at the collectability of such a, 1 of a kind art work that you and only you, now behold. :cool:
You may want to consider having an auction!
I personally would bid on such a conversation piece.;)
W.C.Fields had a pretty warped cue in his movie. That somebody had to make, that is worth thousands.

no-sho
 
TheGreenHornet said:
i wish he lived near me, i wouldnt physically harm him but i would like to se hm face to face and show him what real jp's are. ironically i was referred to him from here. that is why i posted it in case anyone else heard of him or is going to him.

he contacted me back finally and he is only willing to exchange them for another set i would like. what doesnt he understand?
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ya no what would be funny is to put these on ebay for sale with good pictures. Put the price at like 150 bucks and say who made them with his ebay user id. name LOL :D :D
 
bigpocket said:
ya no what would be funny is to put these on ebay for sale with good pictures. Put the price at like 150 bucks and say who made them with his ebay user id. name LOL :D :D
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you can even email him the link the auction..

chris
 
hehe, i should. i paid 54 technically for them but that was less cause if i asked someone esle to make them specifically like i wanted them it was 85 plus for 4 purpleheart points into maple with a white phenlic bottom. i settled for a recomendation instead of going with someone known and that is a mistake i will never make. i will consider the crap auction just for the hell of it.
 
TheGreenHornet said:
hehe, i should. i paid 54 technically for them but that was less cause if i asked someone esle to make them specifically like i wanted them it was 85 plus for 4 purpleheart points into maple with a white phenlic bottom. i settled for a recomendation instead of going with someone known and that is a mistake i will never make. i will consider the crap auction just for the hell of it.
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And you shoud entitle it the same as this thread right up to the first comma...Now that would be hysterical.
 
TheGreenHornet said:
hehe, i should. i paid 54 technically for them but that was less cause if i asked someone esle to make them specifically like i wanted them it was 85 plus for 4 purpleheart points into maple with a white phenlic bottom. i settled for a recomendation instead of going with someone known and that is a mistake i will never make. i will consider the crap auction just for the hell of it.
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Has the guy that made them seen this thread? You should send him the link.
 
defending himself

Hal said:
Is this guy not going to post and defend himself? I think you got a raw deal myself. Those JPs are garbage.
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i just received an email form him saing he registered on this sight and he is going to give his defense soon. he said in ressolvement to our issue, he does not refund and he is just gong to send me a 3 random sets of jp's and if i refuse delivery then ts on me and if not then he considers this resolved and he said in his email they are perfect and he has never had anyone unhappy except me.

I highly doubt that.
 
TheGreenHornet said:
i just received an email form him saing he registered on this sight and he is going to give his defense soon. he said in ressolvement to our issue, he does not refund and he is just gong to send me a 3 random sets of jp's and if i refuse delivery then ts on me and if not then he considers this resolved and he said in his email they are perfect and he has never had anyone unhappy except me.

I highly doubt that.
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Bring him on! He has no idea what he is in for.:mad: :( :eek: :o :p
 
TheGreenHornet said:
i just received an email form him saing he registered on this sight and he is going to give his defense soon. he said in ressolvement to our issue, he does not refund and he is just gong to send me a 3 random sets of jp's and if i refuse delivery then ts on me and if not then he considers this resolved and he said in his email they are perfect and he has never had anyone unhappy except me.

I highly doubt that.
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Man, this is the new thread that will not die............

You have to admit, his close to perfect feedback is rather odd given the state of these JPs. Maybe some of the previous buyers just gave him + feedback instead of fearing the oh-so-common "retaliatory feedback".

Sean
 
I was curious what everyone thinks j/p's should sell for? Not off the shelf delrin but custom handmade w points or inlays. When I make a set to match one of my cues they don't start under $100 I build them with the same precision and finnish as the cue. Due to the price I dont sell many sets but I am not happy with them unless the match the cue perfectly. I spend alot of hours to make a set and when I break it down in dollar per hour, I make less than I do making cues.
So, that being said what do you think a good set with inlays or points should cost? Chris.
 
Chris Byrne said:
I was curious what everyone thinks j/p's should sell for? Not off the shelf delrin but custom handmade w points or inlays. When I make a set to match one of my cues they don't start under $100 I build them with the same precision and finnish as the cue. Due to the price I dont sell many sets but I am not happy with them unless the match the cue perfectly. I spend alot of hours to make a set and when I break it down in dollar per hour, I make less than I do making cues.
So, that being said what do you think a good set with inlays or points should cost? Chris.
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me too. cause i keep hearing i paid to much. But when i researched trying to order jp's with 4 purple heart points into maple the least was $85. steve k was 95 and any custom cue maker was over $100. i made the wrong decision to save $25 but i asked him multiple times and he assured he could with no problem, i thought that was a little low compared to others but he was referred to me and i thought ok. the risk was bad, and the jp's were also. he did try to keep making them right but did not succeed. he was a good business man up until the point where i wanted a refund and he told me that it was not the jp's that was the problem, it was me and he didn't think i could ever be pleased.

Thus i created this thread to show him i am not the only one that would be dissapointed.
 
TheGreenHornet said:
ioffered that and it was declined. but that would resolve it.
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Well the Seller IMO was a Fool, after all the business he or she lost after you posted you tail of misadventure.
 
PoolSleuth said:
Well the Seller IMO was a Fool, after all the business he or she lost after you posted you tail of misadventure.
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i hope so. or i hope this post made him up his quality of his work. be a little mroe of a perfectionist.


he offered to send me 3 more sets of jp's in resolution instead of a refund which he stills refuses.
 
Lemme see how this works,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you dont like these turds, so ill send you three more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT
 
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