I'm even more scared to turn on a lathe than ever before, perhaps intimidated is the word tha I am looking for. Is ther ea book on cue-making. Soneone should write a Cuemaking for Dummies book.
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Goof75
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Dear Buddha Jones,
I might have it completely wrong and I don't want to criticize anybody, but I don't think there will ever be a book wich will reveal all the secrets to be known to make good cues.
I know that mister Dieckman tried to help out people by selling videotapes with explanations of how to "build" cues. Mister Hightower did write a book on cuemaking and so did some others.
You should know that my knowledge about cuemaking is very basic and that I'm still wet behind the ears concerning this beautifull craftsmanship. I too, would like to have the knowledge wich renowned cuemakers have such as mister Reyes, mister Black, mister Drexler, mister Searing, mister Mottey, mister Wayne...etc.
But the truth is that not the cuemakers but the people who play with the cues should be the ones to give a value to a cue.
I suppose that we can only do our best and work on our mistakes in order to achieve some day a satisfying result.
Again, I don't want to hurt anybodies feelings and I hope that this message is carefully interpreted because of my bad English.
If anyone has tips or hints concerning cuemaking or my English, I would be more than pleased to recieve e-mails.
This is my private address: Goof75@hotmail.com
With my very best regards, Tom Penrose
I might have it completely wrong and I don't want to criticize anybody, but I don't think there will ever be a book wich will reveal all the secrets to be known to make good cues.
I know that mister Dieckman tried to help out people by selling videotapes with explanations of how to "build" cues. Mister Hightower did write a book on cuemaking and so did some others.
You should know that my knowledge about cuemaking is very basic and that I'm still wet behind the ears concerning this beautifull craftsmanship. I too, would like to have the knowledge wich renowned cuemakers have such as mister Reyes, mister Black, mister Drexler, mister Searing, mister Mottey, mister Wayne...etc.
But the truth is that not the cuemakers but the people who play with the cues should be the ones to give a value to a cue.
I suppose that we can only do our best and work on our mistakes in order to achieve some day a satisfying result.
Again, I don't want to hurt anybodies feelings and I hope that this message is carefully interpreted because of my bad English.
If anyone has tips or hints concerning cuemaking or my English, I would be more than pleased to recieve e-mails.
This is my private address: Goof75@hotmail.com
With my very best regards, Tom Penrose
Buddha Jones said:
I understand what you're saying and that's what makes cuemaking very challenging, you need to have a multi-faceted approach to a multi-faceted craft. Consumers expect structural precision which requires the cuecraftsman to be an accomplished machinist and to be such, the safest and shortest route to take is to avail yourself of classes on machine shop operation. This may be offered at your nearest college and I really do recommend it and advice you to really pay attention on the "Safety" part of the course. I can't stress enough the importance of the term "Safety First", just one major accident while using shop equipment can make you regret aspiring to be a cuecraftsman.
I'd hate to be the author of "Cuemaking for Dummies" as it's going to be a book begging for legal nightmares.
Edwin Reyes
Goof75 said:
Ed: I don't believe that there will be as every cuemaker has his own system and those who never stop exploring are the ones who get ahead. I have a book and video project in the works for the members of the ER Cue Collectors Club of Japan entitled "Cuecrafting the ER Way" but it isn't made to be instructional media. It's more like a journal and produced exclusively for the said club.
Goof75 said:
Ed: We all have to start somewhere, Tom but the important thing is having the desire and determination. These two can be your fuel in your search for the knowledge that you seek.
Goof75 said:
Ed: Generally, yes but if you're in it more for self satisfaction then I'd say that economic factors can put a damper on your creativity. Don't learn to "cheat" on your materials, go full out then eventually learn to figure in the economy part on the design aspect. In this way you will be guaranteed quality products once you've mastered the technical aspects. Don't worry about ROI (return on investment) as cue consumer can recognize and appreciate quality workmanship.
Goof75 said:
Ed: Exactly, no one is excempted from this and it is those who really keep working on attaining their best that floats to the top in any endeavor. I wish you all the best Tom.
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Thanks for the responses. I have to tell you that I have knowledge of machinery, though limited, from schooling and my father. If someone were to lay out directions for building a cue, then I could do it. How I figured cues to be made, is no where near how I am learning on how they are actually made. More to my naiveness than anything else, I figured you just widdled it like a bat or a bed post, who knew. After seeing the ER handle in one picture, and learning of Blud's method of putting HR Maple inserts into forearms of weaker woods, well, I just don't know where to start. I was thinking of getting some blanks from Barringer to disect and to try and convert to a playing cue. Any suggestions?
Buddha J, boy I feel for you.
I used to hang out on cuemakers' shops.
Cueamaking fascinated me.
I took machining from a local college for almost 6 months so I could learn how to use a lathe and a mill competently.
Machining skills is just the beginning. Learning wood ( if you don't know how to select and cut them, you end up with a ton of firewood), epoxies and finishes are also a must.
And the tooling. Oh the tooling. You have to know what and where to get your tooling. If not, you will go broke and end up with a lot of crap.
I still have not made a cue but am apprenticing with a very good cueamaker. I have no idea how else anyone learn cuemaking unless a competent cuemaker shows him the "ropes".
There are a few cuemaking videos out there but the makers of those videos don't particularly impress me.
I used to hang out on cuemakers' shops.
Cueamaking fascinated me.
I took machining from a local college for almost 6 months so I could learn how to use a lathe and a mill competently.
Machining skills is just the beginning. Learning wood ( if you don't know how to select and cut them, you end up with a ton of firewood), epoxies and finishes are also a must.
And the tooling. Oh the tooling. You have to know what and where to get your tooling. If not, you will go broke and end up with a lot of crap.
I still have not made a cue but am apprenticing with a very good cueamaker. I have no idea how else anyone learn cuemaking unless a competent cuemaker shows him the "ropes".
There are a few cuemaking videos out there but the makers of those videos don't particularly impress me.
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Joseph Cues said:Buddha J, boy I feel for you.
I used to hang out on cuemakers' shops.
Cueamaking fascinated me.
I took machining from a local college for almost 6 months so I could learn how to use a lathe and a mill competently.
Machining skills is just the beginning. Learning wood ( if you don't know how to select and cut them, you end up with a ton of firewood), epoxies and finishes are also a must.
And the tooling. Oh the tooling. You have to know what and where to get your tooling. If not, you will go broke and end up with a lot of crap.
I still have not made a cue but am apprenticing with a very good cueamaker. I have no idea how else anyone learn cuemaking unless a competent cuemaker shows him the "ropes".
There are a few cuemaking videos out there but the makers of those videos don't particularly impress me.
Buddha J,
Joseph here is a good source of info as he is at a stage that you can easily relate to and understand instead of getting too advanced advises that may just sound like jibberish to you. I'm very impressed, Joey. This thread should probably be called the Bandido & Joseph thread.
Well it looks that since I cant find someone to learn from, I am going to reinvent the wheel if I get serious with it.
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Goof75
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Dear Buddha Jones,
I might have a solution for you. I know that mister Dennis Dieckman and mister Arnot (from Lake Worth, FL) do have cuemaking schools. I've been to mister Arnot's and I believe that he has a lot to teach.
I really learned a lot from him and also from other cuemakers just by trying to find out how a cue was built by just looking at the picture of the cue or the cue itself. And I'm never too shy too ask things.
But I also realize that I still have a lot to learn and that my knowledge is just very basic compared to the renowned cuemakers who make us dream and feel jalous.
With my very best regards, Tom Penrose
I might have a solution for you. I know that mister Dennis Dieckman and mister Arnot (from Lake Worth, FL) do have cuemaking schools. I've been to mister Arnot's and I believe that he has a lot to teach.
I really learned a lot from him and also from other cuemakers just by trying to find out how a cue was built by just looking at the picture of the cue or the cue itself. And I'm never too shy too ask things.
But I also realize that I still have a lot to learn and that my knowledge is just very basic compared to the renowned cuemakers who make us dream and feel jalous.
With my very best regards, Tom Penrose
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Goof75
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Dear Bandido,
Did you recieve mine (the PM)?
Anyway, happy new year to you all
Did you recieve mine (the PM)?
Anyway, happy new year to you all
I never check my PM's sorry fellas!!!
OK, just checked them and replied to them, sorry about that.
bandido said:
wow! those are very elegant protectors, one of my favorite woods, the very magical amboyna burl.
just by looking at the protectors i have a gut feeling the cue is another masterpiece from the master bandido, as always! excellent and precise playability. class and elegance as bonus.
diablo
I agree. Ed scowered the mountains to find those ambuynas, I bet.diablo said:
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Lasar
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hi all ,
is it possible to get any price information on bandido's cues ?
is it possible to get any price information on bandido's cues ?
Lasar, just click Bandido's name/handle then send him a PM.
