Banking Tips

Spimp13 said:
How can forget this epic trainwreck of a thread lol

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=405425&highlight=centerball

There were multiple things that happened in that thread that were not shocking to me.

1. OP makes a facepalm comment how using centerball makes it more likely to miss a shot
2. OP eventually gets a much deserved ban after the events that followed
3. Rick (English!) once again ruins a thread posting over 100 times in it to get his post count
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That was because certain individuals were also involved in the thread & for some like them it takes more than a few posts for them to even get the point...

& then topics actually changed & hence again more than a few posts required for a few of those individuals...

& I compliment good posts & add my confirmation to them...

& then there were those like YOU also in the thread...

I don't think I am comedian like some do that go around making 'fun' of people at their expense. I have no thought at all to any 'post count' for it has no reward & actually due to some of limited thinking ability being a sincere participant becomes a draw back as they see it with disdain. They are probably apathetic in general & may never even cast a political vote & hence will deserve whatever they get.

I grew up a long time ago.

Perhaps you should try it one day... but don't ever grow up TOO much.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
& then there were those like YOU also in the thread...


I grew up a long time ago.

Perhaps you should try it one day... but don't ever grow up TOO much.
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Well I am not sure what this means but thanks lol?

You did not grow up a long time ago and have been banned multiple times on this site for obvious reasons. When discussions are serious I absolutely try to help out if I have 2 cents worth posting but it doesn't take me 100 posts to do so and I don't need to respond to every post in a thread.

Free tip of the day for you.....there is a quote feature where you can quote a bunch of people in just 1 post. That may help you avoid future carpal tunnel.

Free tip #2 for you and other viewers. There is an ignore feature on AZ billiards. I have avoided using it for years, but it looks like there is at least one person that has finally made the cut. Congrats Rick!

Edit - yes I know he can't read my congrats unless it gets quoted by someone else and I am ok with that. Shoot straight people! ;)
 

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I like Banking with the Beard (book ) & DVD. I like Jimmy Reid's kicking video, Heath Manning's Videos & Tor Lowry's banking & kicking videos.

I think that after learning some new knowledge, time on the table is must, to learn the application too...

Lots of stuff in print & online too.
 
Bob Jewett said:
As has been pointed out, what you said is mostly wrong. You need to spend some more time on the table. Also, it may help you to visit Dr. Dave's most excellent pool site. It's free.
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Hi Bob. In banking and kicking etc., can you explain why the professional pool players use their stick to point under the rails, (and not on the edge of the rails) when measuring for certain shots?
 
Bob would certainly know better but I am going to guess they do it simply because that is how they feel comfortable doing it.

You can use both the diamonds and the rails to make banks, you just can't mix the 2 unless you are going from the diamonds knowing you need to make it just a tad longer by hitting in front of your "diamond spot" instead of through it or if you are going from rail to diamonds to shorten up a tad.

I find when I get down on long shots I can see the rail better than the diamonds for my aim point so I may switch to that, especially if there is glare on the rail.
 
EddieBme said:
In banking and kicking etc., can you explain why the professional pool players use their stick to point under the rails, (and not on the edge of the rails) when measuring for certain shots?
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Whether you mirror and aim relative to the rail groove (in from of the cushion), along the line of diamonds (behind the cushion), or under the cushion depends on shot speed and distance. It also depends on conditions. Measuring under the cushion works well for medium-speed shots at medium kicking distances under typical conditions, but it doesn't work well for all types of kicks. For examples, see the following video:

NV E.7 - Mirror Kick-Shot Aiming System, from HAPS III

Enjoy,
Dave
 
EddieBme said:
Hi Bob. In banking and kicking etc., can you explain why the professional pool players use their stick to point under the rails, (and not on the edge of the rails) when measuring for certain shots?
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Furthermore (just additional to Dr Daves response) there are different diamond-systems/kicking systems/banking-methods.

Where one system ends....another system will begin- every system has its limitation.
And: you always have to make minor adjustments because of circumstances and playing conditions.
So some may aim for an "adjusted" aiming point on the rail (or as you said "under the rail")- to maybe *make it a bit longer* :-) (or vice versa).

You question is a correct observation. but don t get it as a *fixed* information for yourself :-) - there could be too many responses for your question :thumbup:

have a smooth stroke,

Ingo
 
Ratta said:
Furthermore (just additional to Dr Daves response) there are different diamond-systems/kicking systems/banking-methods.

Where one system ends....another system will begin- every system has its limitation.
And: you always have to make minor adjustments because of circumstances and playing conditions.
So some may aim for an "adjusted" aiming point on the rail (or as you said "under the rail")- to maybe *make it a bit longer* :-) (or vice versa).
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Well stated. There are many different kicking and banking systems that are appropriate in different situations and with different types of shots, and all "systems" require adjustments for conditions, speed, angle, spin, and distance.

Regards,
Dave
 
EddieBme said:
Hi Bob. In banking and kicking etc., can you explain why the professional pool players use their stick to point under the rails, (and not on the edge of the rails) when measuring for certain shots?
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Sorry, I've been too busy playing to respond. As mentioned above, it is probably how they have practiced, and the most accurate reflection plane varies according to how the balls sit and the spin and speed used.

One of the best kicking performances I've ever seen was by Buddy Hall in the 1980 SF Open 9-Ball. It seemed that he routinely kicked in any ball that required a 1-rail kick towards the side. He very deliberately ran his finger along the line even with the diamonds that he was going to shoot the cue ball along.
 
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