Banking with the beard?

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Bank pool is my favorite game and I'm starting to play one pocket and wanted to look around for some information on banks and one book that kept coming up was ''banking with the beard". I heard nothing but good things about it and decided to pick it up from pooldawg.com. They accidentally sent me the banking with the beard 2 disk DVD instructional instead, double the price. Has anyone read/seen the book and/or the movie? Deciding if I should return it for the book or if the DVD is better. Thanks in advance.
 
Never saw the movie, the book is handy. I don't care for pool instructional books in general that aren't spiral bound so they lay flat on the pool table though.

If it was me I would just reorder the book. I suspect there is plenty of pool goodness in the disks and I know the book is worth the money.

Hu
 
I have the book in front of me. I was looking for a collection of Banks That Look Like They Don't Go - I don't recall if that's another book. I don't play banks so If one comes up I need to take, I just aim it.
 
Fred was introduced to me as "Freddy the Banker" in the 60's at the infamous stardust lounge owned by a redneck named george walker who had a much younger, blonde, attractive wife who was excellent at being a distraction when required

perhaps he thought that handle knocked his action and that might be why "Freddy the Beard" came about

On topic: i picked up his book and found it informative
 
Bank pool is my favorite game and I'm starting to play one pocket and wanted to look around for some information on banks and one book that kept coming up was ''banking with the beard". I heard nothing but good things about it and decided to pick it up from pooldawg.com. They accidentally sent me the banking with the beard 2 disk DVD instructional instead, double the price. Has anyone read/seen the book and/or the movie? Deciding if I should return it for the book or if the DVD is better. Thanks in advance.
if you are serious about learning about banking you should have everything freddy put out
one nugget extra from one of his products could win you a match
jmho
 
About 90% of my time at the pool table is shooting banks, and "Banking with the Beard" is my favorite instructional pool book. I highly recommend it. I don't have any of Freddie's DVDs, so I can't compare the two.
 
To be honest, I have the books, seen the dvd's and took a lesson from Freddy. Still can't bank :)

I had to genuinely laugh at your last line. I think we have all been there!

Many years ago I played around with Freddy's book and Virtual Pool, two or three, I don't remember. I went to the pool hall and got on a blue label or upgraded red label nine foot Diamond. When banks came up I immediately recognized them and with very little adjustment from the computer screen they went in nicely.

Incidentally, last I knew Bugs had all three disks of his instruction on youtube. It is called an introduction or disk one but it rolls into disks two and three also. An amazing banker. Heard tell it didn't take a bunch of takes for most shots. If the videos are still up I would go watch them while they are. Hours of banking goodness.

Hu
 
Incidentally, last I knew Bugs had all three disks of his instruction on youtube. It is called an introduction or disk one but it rolls into disks two and three also. An amazing banker. Heard tell it didn't take a bunch of takes for most shots. If the videos are still up I would go watch them while they are. Hours of banking goodness.

Here ya go....
 
Never saw the movie, the book is handy. I don't care for pool instructional books in general that aren't spiral bound so they lay flat on the pool table though.

If it was me I would just reorder the book. I suspect there is plenty of pool goodness in the disks and I know the book is worth the money.

Hu
That's exactly why I created my book in a 'Spiral bound' format!
 
It's floating around in PDF form. You can take a look at it and see if there's anything not in the DVD.

I believe that the book should still be under copyright owned by the family. Best to pay for the book IMO.

Dave <-- has an autographed copy but Freddy misunderstood my name (I have two first names) and used my last name ... still a treasure to me (and his basic system is outstanding and worthwhile learning/PRACTICING)
 
I have Frank’s “Banking With The Beard” and “The Gospool of Pool”. Both are excellent tutorials helping you to
understand the nuances involved learning to bank shots. Remember that different brands of pool table will bank
differently and Frank points out why. Diamond pool tables exhibit different characteristics than other brand tables.
 
Here’s a little anecdote from the first appearance of “Banking with the Beard.”

The book first appeared when the Derby was still being played at the old hotel. Freddy had a booth in the corridor you walked down to go to the tournament room. I waited until Tuesday or so when there weren’t a lot of people around. I approached the booth where Freddy was sitting. There was a group of seven or eight of his Chicago buddies standing behind him. Nobody knew me.

Now what I am thinking is, “Man! What a great idea! Someone has finally published a book on how to play bank pool. If it’s good that will answer a need. I better buy a copy.

But that’s not what I said.

You have to understand I don’t look like a pool player. I don’t dress like a pool player. I look and dress like a civilian.

I picked up one of the copies from the table and started leafing through it. After a bit, Freddy says to me, “That’s a great book. It’ll really help your bank game.” Of course what he’s thinking to himself is, “Can this guy even make a bridge. Look at those eye glasses.”

After a dramatic pause, I said,”I suppose the book’s alright. But, see, I’m afraid there might not be anything in it I don’t already know.”

That hit home. Not only did Freddy turn red, all the guys with him suddenly looked at me with expressions that said, “Did that guy just say what I think he said?”

Freddy came back with,”What do you mean nothing you don’t know.”

I answered, “Well, I grew up in Cincinnati and I’ve seen some guys who can bank a ball. Joey Spaeth. Clem Metz. Donny Anderson. So I’ve seen a lot of bank pool. I’ve played a lot of three cushion, so I know about connecting diamonds and distant aiming points. Acquired english and rail bounce and stuff like that. I’m just afraid there might not be anything in there I don’t already know so I could be wasting my money.”

By this time the guys behind Freddy are elbowing one another and laughing cautiously with their hands up to their mouths.

Finally I reached into my pocket and handed him a twenty dollar bill, or whatever the price was. Freddy’s face was an open book. You could see that he really wanted to say, “Stick your money where the sun don’t shine, Expletive. I wouldn’t sell you one of my books no matter what you paid me,”

But money was on the table, and you know pool players. I got the book.

But I don’t think the author signed it.
 
Here’s a little anecdote from the first appearance of “Banking with the Beard.”

The book first appeared when the Derby was still being played at the old hotel. Freddy had a booth in the corridor you walked down to go to the tournament room. I waited until Tuesday or so when there weren’t a lot of people around. I approached the booth where Freddy was sitting. There was a group of seven or eight of his Chicago buddies standing behind him. Nobody knew me.

Now what I am thinking is, “Man! What a great idea! Someone has finally published a book on how to play bank pool. If it’s good that will answer a need. I better buy a copy.

But that’s not what I said.

You have to understand I don’t look like a pool player. I don’t dress like a pool player. I look and dress like a civilian.

I picked up one of the copies from the table and started leafing through it. After a bit, Freddy says to me, “That’s a great book. It’ll really help your bank game.” Of course what he’s thinking to himself is, “Can this guy even make a bridge. Look at those eye glasses.”

After a dramatic pause, I said,”I suppose the book’s alright. But, see, I’m afraid there might not be anything in it I don’t already know.”

That hit home. Not only did Freddy turn red, all the guys with him suddenly looked at me with expressions that said, “Did that guy just say what I think he said?”

Freddy came back with,”What do you mean nothing you don’t know.”

I answered, “Well, I grew up in Cincinnati and I’ve seen some guys who can bank a ball. Joey Spaeth. Clem Metz. Donny Anderson. So I’ve seen a lot of bank pool. I’ve played a lot of three cushion, so I know about connecting diamonds and distant aiming points. Acquired english and rail bounce and stuff like that. I’m just afraid there might not be anything in there I don’t already know so I could be wasting my money.”

By this time the guys behind Freddy are elbowing one another and laughing cautiously with their hands up to their mouths.

Finally I reached into my pocket and handed him a twenty dollar bill, or whatever the price was. Freddy’s face was an open book. You could see that he really wanted to say, “Stick your money where the sun don’t shine, Expletive. I wouldn’t sell you one of my books no matter what you paid me,”

But money was on the table, and you know pool players. I got the book.

But I don’t think the author signed it.

I found the story very funny, legitimately. The problem with the emoticon, hard to tell if somebody is laughing at the story or writer.

I can picture the look on Freddy's and particularly his friend's faces. It would be time to flash some cash for more than the book though.

Hu
 
I believe that the book should still be under copyright owned by the family. Best to pay for the book IMO.

They weren't sure if what is in the book is a duplication of what they already have. I suggested they could take a look before they buy it.
 
Here’s a little anecdote from the first appearance of “Banking with the Beard.”

The book first appeared when the Derby was still being played at the old hotel. Freddy had a booth in the corridor you walked down to go to the tournament room. I waited until Tuesday or so when there weren’t a lot of people around. I approached the booth where Freddy was sitting. There was a group of seven or eight of his Chicago buddies standing behind him. Nobody knew me.

Now what I am thinking is, “Man! What a great idea! Someone has finally published a book on how to play bank pool. If it’s good that will answer a need. I better buy a copy.

But that’s not what I said.

You have to understand I don’t look like a pool player. I don’t dress like a pool player. I look and dress like a civilian.

I picked up one of the copies from the table and started leafing through it. After a bit, Freddy says to me, “That’s a great book. It’ll really help your bank game.” Of course what he’s thinking to himself is, “Can this guy even make a bridge. Look at those eye glasses.”

After a dramatic pause, I said,”I suppose the book’s alright. But, see, I’m afraid there might not be anything in it I don’t already know.”

That hit home. Not only did Freddy turn red, all the guys with him suddenly looked at me with expressions that said, “Did that guy just say what I think he said?”

Freddy came back with,”What do you mean nothing you don’t know.”

I answered, “Well, I grew up in Cincinnati and I’ve seen some guys who can bank a ball. Joey Spaeth. Clem Metz. Donny Anderson. So I’ve seen a lot of bank pool. I’ve played a lot of three cushion, so I know about connecting diamonds and distant aiming points. Acquired english and rail bounce and stuff like that. I’m just afraid there might not be anything in there I don’t already know so I could be wasting my money.”

By this time the guys behind Freddy are elbowing one another and laughing cautiously with their hands up to their mouths.

Finally I reached into my pocket and handed him a twenty dollar bill, or whatever the price was. Freddy’s face was an open book. You could see that he really wanted to say, “Stick your money where the sun don’t shine, Expletive. I wouldn’t sell you one of my books no matter what you paid me,”

But money was on the table, and you know pool players. I got the book.

But I don’t think the author signed it.

I think I was a the DCC and Freddy was hocking his "Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers" at Gil's booth.

I went by and didn't say a word because Freddy and I had recently been at odds online. Later I went o Gil and asked, "Can you get Freddy to sign a copy without telling him who to inscribe it to?" And Gil said, "No problem." A few hours later I went back and I paid for my copy inscribed, "Bank on brother! 1/27/2014 Freddy the Beard."

Lou Figueroa
RIP
 
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