Bar table pool vs. big table pool

It’s the Universal B cueball, sometimes called the Mudball. Been around for 40 years. They mix metal flakes with the phenolic to cast it. Works with both magnetic and balance/weight Cueball diverting tables.
I see- thanks for clarifying. I haven't seen a mudball in around 15 years
 
I probably got the least bar box experience of all the posters on this thread.
In the action days I would only play with the over-size cue ball….it was predictable…never magnetic….and never 8-ball.
When BCA came up with a decent set of rules and Diamond put their 7-foot on the market, I would play bar box 8-ball.
 
I don’t know.. wearing glasses to play I just can’t play 9 foot without looking over the brim. I can say I feel rarely on a 7 foot table do I have to get my stroke out but on a 9 foot you have to open it up almost every rack.
8 ball felt more suited to 7 foot tables. More clusters small areas to get into
rotation was more challenging on a 9 foot Because as I said you really have to open the stroke up more. you can’t just finesse the balls around all day with a little spin.

The tables I really hate are 8 footers.. get that shit out of here lol
What’s wrong with 8 footers?
 
What’s wrong with 8 footers?
Nothing! I have an 8 and a 9, and they both play great. The 8 is at home, and it's great to practice on, since I do switch between 7 and 9 foot tables frequently.
You can still do 14.1 and One Pocket on an 8, not so much on a 7.
An 8' Diamond's playing surface is 45x90, a 9' is 50x100, not a huge difference. 7 footer is 40x80.
 
What’s wrong with 8 footers?
Everything lol They aren’t long enough to give you long tough shots like a 9 footer but theres just enough space that nothing clusters in 8 ball like a bar box. toss in most of them our home tables with bucket pockets and Im just not a fan.
 
Everything lol They aren’t long enough to give you long tough shots like a 9 footer but theres just enough space that nothing clusters in 8 ball like a bar box. toss in most of them our home tables with bucket pockets and Im just not a fan.
I'm also an 8' hater. 👍
 
I'm also an 8' hater. 👍

It would be a bit strong to call me a hater but somehow the typical eight footer is neither fish nor fowl. The typical eight footer tends to play easier than a seven or nine footer even in bars and pool halls. Doesn't seem like the facts should bear out that impression but I still feel that way.

Hu
 
It would be a bit strong to call me a hater but somehow the typical eight footer is neither fish nor fowl. The typical eight footer tends to play easier than a seven or nine footer even in bars and pool halls. Doesn't seem like the facts should bear out that impression but I still feel that way.

Hu
Bar cue.
Race to two for $30. On a Valley table with gaping pockets.
Flint style.
Very nice.
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8' is the best some of us can get (at least I have a home table) but the 8' haters point is well taken, however, I made my pockets a little over 4" and armed it with Artemis cushions and 860 cloth. Now when I play on 9'ers with 4.5" pockets, it plays so much easier. With all that said, IF I had the power to change my wife's mind, I would have a 9' Rasson or GC.

The Wazz - Defender of the 8 footer
 
8' is the best some of us can get (at least I have a home table) but the 8' haters point is well taken, however, I made my pockets a little over 4" and armed it with Artemis cushions and 860 cloth. Now when I play on 9'ers with 4.5" pockets, it plays so much easier. With all that said, IF I had the power to change my wife's mind, I would have a 9' Rasson or GC.

The Wazz - Defender of the 8 footer

Last home table I had was a seven footer. Both because I would have needed a short stick sometimes with an eight footer and to be compatible with one of the tables I competed on, sorta. Corner pockets were a bit over four inches and it had good cushions on it when I bought it, six hundred delivered and set in place. The guy realized he had sold it too cheap before he delivered it, I suspect a lot of calls wanting it. I was first in though and he stuck to our deal. He had three guys with him to help tote it and I did tip forty bucks for beer money.

Hu
 
I would imagine the announcer had some point he was trying to make like , better finesse on break outs or patterns, I always thought she was a great shot maker and pressure player but weaker at the strategy aspects, but who knows?
 
I probably got the least bar box experience of all the posters on this thread.
In the action days I would only play with the over-size cue ball….it was predictable…never magnetic….and never 8-ball.
When BCA came up with a decent set of rules and Diamond put their 7-foot on the market, I would play bar box 8-ball.

You, me, I think you can add Keith and others to the list liking the big cue ball. I called that thing an eight hundred pound gorilla. You could position it on a dime and have nine cents change! It was so dominant over regular sized balls you could always trust what it would do.

I don't even call a seven foot Diamond a barbox. Made differently and in another class than true barboxes when it comes to play. I enjoy playing on a seven foot Diamond much more than playing on a barbox. I favor nine footers and ten footers but I will drive past a lot of Valley tables and such to get on a Diamond. In all fairness, the boxes were usually ratty. I went to a "pool hall" in the piney woods a few years back. Stepped in the door and they had a dozen or so new Valleys, nothing else! I had rarely seen a new Valley, much less a dozen of them!

The good hands people owned almost all of the barboxes, jukeboxes, and cigarette machines around here. Maintenance and cloth changes were rare things and somehow complaining to Vito never seemed like a good idea.

Hu
 
Last home table I had was a seven footer. Both because I would have needed a short stick sometimes with an eight footer and to be compatible with one of the tables I competed on, sorta. Corner pockets were a bit over four inches and it had good cushions on it when I bought it, six hundred delivered and set in place. The guy realized he had sold it too cheap before he delivered it, I suspect a lot of calls wanting it. I was first in though and he stuck to our deal. He had three guys with him to help tote it and I did tip forty bucks for beer money.

Hu

$600 & beer delivered is excellent! I bought my table off of Craigslist for $300 (needed a lot of TLC and I picked it up and moved it) and put another $600 in new goodies and refinishing plus time, I am very happy with the results. However the amount of booze I consumed over the course of the rebuild was probably more than I have invested in the table LOL
 
$600 & beer delivered is excellent! I bought my table off of Craigslist for $300 (needed a lot of TLC and I picked it up and moved it) and put another $600 in new goodies and refinishing plus time, I am very happy with the results. However the amount of booze I consumed over the course of the rebuild was probably more than I have invested in the table LOL

I used to have race cars. I had a crew helping me of course. With an icebox in the shop I tried buying beer and stocking it. Bad idea, nothing got done. I learned to wait until the evening was winding down to send out for beer!

Hu
 
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