Bcn Sticks It To Simonis

run out girl

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I’m new at posting but when things hit close to home I need to speak out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4439038591273803340

I bought chalk off because of the Simonis commercial, in the video on the link above, it looks like Simonis recommends Chalk Off to clean their cloth. Paste this link to your browser and then advance it to 18 minutes to see the commercial. After cleaning my table with Chalk Off it left my table sticky and the fibers on the cloth looked as if they were raised. After repeated efforts to contact Billiard Club Network, where I bought the product, I finally had to contact Simonis. And here is the response.

Thank you for your inquiry.

Simonis does not endorse any chemical cloth cleaner and the commercial that you saw must have been a commercial for the Chalk-Off product as Simonis does not have any video ads running at this time and we have never had commercials endorsing cleaners of any kind.
We had our labs test a product called Quick Clean a couple of years ago and the official word from the lab is that is does not harm the cloth. This is probably as close to an actual endorsement that we have made for any chemical cleaning product. I have also heard that the Quick Clean product works pretty well, although I do not have first-hand experience with it.

As to what will rectify the situation that you have described with your table and the residue that may be on it, I do not have any solid recommendation for you. I would wipe the cloth with a slightly damp terrycloth towel, allow it to dry completely and then brush the table. Hopefully this will remove the residue that you mention.

Please feel free to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Ivan Lee
President
Iwan Simonis, Inc. (Simonis North America)


Hopefully there is good news. Not wanting to wet my table I contacted Quick Clean and they assured me their product will remove the stickiness and repair the fibers of the cloth. Mr. Hodges said that he had numerous complaints about Chalk Off and knows first hand that his product will clean up the mess. He gave me a money back guarantee. We shall see.

It looks as if this Rob Sykora guy doesn’t mind using other people’s commercials to deceive and trick the public into buying his inferior products. I don’t understand how such a dishonest person stays in business. After ripping off Quick Clean it looks like he is now going for Somonis. Who will be next?
 
run out girl said:
I’m new at posting but when things hit close to home I need to speak out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4439038591273803340

I bought chalk off because of the Simonis commercial, in the video on the link above, it looks like Simonis recommends Chalk Off to clean their cloth. Paste this link to your browser and then advance it to 18 minutes to see the commercial. After cleaning my table with Chalk Off it left my table sticky and the fibers on the cloth looked as if they were raised. After repeated efforts to contact Billiard Club Network, where I bought the product, I finally had to contact Simonis. And here is the response.

Thank you for your inquiry.

Simonis does not endorse any chemical cloth cleaner and the commercial that you saw must have been a commercial for the Chalk-Off product as Simonis does not have any video ads running at this time and we have never had commercials endorsing cleaners of any kind.
We had our labs test a product called Quick Clean a couple of years ago and the official word from the lab is that is does not harm the cloth. This is probably as close to an actual endorsement that we have made for any chemical cleaning product. I have also heard that the Quick Clean product works pretty well, although I do not have first-hand experience with it.

As to what will rectify the situation that you have described with your table and the residue that may be on it, I do not have any solid recommendation for you. I would wipe the cloth with a slightly damp terrycloth towel, allow it to dry completely and then brush the table. Hopefully this will remove the residue that you mention.

Please feel free to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Ivan Lee
President
Iwan Simonis, Inc. (Simonis North America)


Hopefully there is good news. Not wanting to wet my table I contacted Quick Clean and they assured me their product will remove the stickiness and repair the fibers of the cloth. Mr. Hodges said that he had numerous complaints about Chalk Off and knows first hand that his product will clean up the mess. He gave me a money back guarantee. We shall see.

It looks as if this Rob Sykora guy doesn’t mind using other people’s commercials to deceive and trick the public into buying his inferior products. I don’t understand how such a dishonest person stays in business. After ripping off Quick Clean it looks like he is now going for Somonis. Who will be next?
In the future clean your Simonis cloth with a regular ole high school "chalk" black board eraser, it'll remove chalk and powder marks real good, real cheap too.
 
That was a strange commercial. The part where Chalk-Off was advertised was almost subliminal.

Anyway, for some background on this drama, both parties (Dave Hodges and BCn) posted on the matter in this thread:

false advertising by BCNtv

Sorry to hear about your cloth, Run Out Girl, and thanks for posting your story. What a nightmare. Let us know if Quick-Clean repairs it. Hey, if it works, maybe Chalk-Off will start advertising as "pre-cleaner" to Quick-Clean. :rolleyes: :D
 
Seems to me that using the Iwan Simonis logo above

Clean Simonis with
Chalk-Off Cloth Cleaner

should upset Simonis

Perhaps someone will be hauled out to the public square and strung up by his thumbs, or some more suitably painful appendage, and left to rot.:D
 
realkingcobra said:
In the future clean your Simonis cloth with a regular ole high school "chalk" black board eraser, it'll remove chalk and powder marks real good, real cheap too.

Without starting anything here I have to say this. I travel with David Hodges and Quick Clean to tournaments and help clean the tables. This chalk off stuff is a joke. We were at the US Open this year as the official table cleaner and we were ask to clean the TV table a couple of times because Rob of BCN and Chalk Off wasnt doing his job. Of course he was pissed but what the heck. The chalk off can not be sprayed on the table and wiped off like Quick Clean because the Chalk Off will not dry in time enough to play. Anything you see anywhere that a pool table is being cleaned and played on instantly I would be willing to bet that Quick Clean is being used and then Chalk Off is being put in the video for it. I know for a fact that what is seen in this video that it is Quick Clean being used as a spray and that David is the one wiping the table because we were there cleaning the tables for that tournament like we have been for the past 3 or 4 years. The only thing that someone is doing is using the rag at the end of the video to make it look like something. This Chalk Off has been tested and trusts me people don’t put it on your table. It is also right on the can that this stuff can even cause cancer. I know I don’t want to use anything like that in my home or my pool room either. Also David did not have anything to do with this video he has just been ripped off by this guy quite a few times over the past year or so. I just watched it and it seems that BCN has taken it out now. O well that was expected also. What a guy!! I hope this helps
 
what i do is after every session brush the table well. after every week vaccum the table and about every 3 weeks use a slghtly water damp microfibre cloth on wipe the table down twice rising the cloth between wipings and let it dry ( about and hour). just don't rub hard over the slate seems if the person who put it together used a wood putty filler instead of something not water soluble for them. that's all i've ever done and my cloth looks and plays great.
 
what's rob's deal?

hi, i am also a first time poster. first of all, to run out girl, i am an avid user of quick clean, i love it and i'm sure you will also.
:mad: i am aware of rob's scam attempts in the past. what is this guys deal? is it so hard to run a legitimate business without stealing sponsorships or other peoples ideas (quick clean). i saw the advertisement with simonis advertising chalk off, it's still out there if you click the web address in the first thread and scan to 18 minutes. i hope simonis is planning to take action against this crook, i mean rob. it doesn't look good on simonis' part to appear to support a product that is not only harmful to someone's health but will damage pool table cloth also. well, i'm a firm believer in what goes around comes around so hopefully rob will get what's comming for him.
 
Quick clean works like a charm.

I read the warnings on Rip-off...I mean Chalk-Off and I would never put that garbage on my table. I know of a few that tried Chalk-off and were very unhappy with the product. Quick Clean is the real deal and I support the product as well as Mr. David Hodges. He got the raw end of this deal.

JBK
 
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