Be in line of the shot

Hustlin-Felice

Hustlin-Felice

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Hi everyone !

I have a questions to all players and especially for pool instructors and pro players.

And the questions are :
How I suppose to line up (straight up) with the shot ? And then how to bend over on the table for a shot ?
My chine should be on the line or next to it ?
Online there is plenty instructions videos, i think i seen them all over my 4 years enjoyment with pool, but still i feel like i m not propaly in the line of shot.
I find out about it when I'm sure that i was aiming right but cue ball went to the right or to the left completely not hitting aiming point at all, or making unwanted spin. What's a solution ?
 
Dominant eye should be in a strong position standing upright at address. Strong does not mean over the cue for everyone. And the strong position can change as we get older and our eyes change. The dance moves from upright to down on the shot should be choreographed so that you do not let your eyes cross you up going down by letting the non-dominant eye cross over the shot line......

Geno has a neat little drill to help with this... I had seen it years ago but had forgotten all about it until he had me do it over the phone... If he doesn't chime in and tell you about it or have him call you in the next 2 days I will come back and post it....

Not so much about stealing his thunder.... (He thinks my tips get too much spin =P) More about knowing how much he enjoys teaching people....

Paging Gene...

Chris
 
Set up a very long straight in shot and draw a chalk line the length of the table line your cue up with that line and form your body and eyes around the cue until it looks like you are lined up straight from your perspective and your stroke action follows the line. It may help to have a spotter watch and give you feed back about how straight you are.

Once you have found a form that strokes straight and looks straight, practice walking into that form from about 4 feet away from the table until you can find it naturally.
 
Thanks guys for advice, I will definitely check this method as soon as possible because I am currently at the airport.

I have another question, when I bend over for a shot I suppose to look only at the aiming point on the object ball OR my eyes suppose to go from aiming point on the object ball to the cue ball and back ?

I asking because i was learning how to play pool on my own and only from instruction videos online. So now I fed up with making mistakes that I want to build a right fundamentals.

Thanks for your help.
 
Hustlin-Felice said:
Thanks guys for advice, I will definitely check this method as soon as possible because I am currently at the airport.

I have another question, when I bend over for a shot I suppose to look only at the aiming point on the object ball OR my eyes suppose to go from aiming point on the object ball to the cue ball and back ?

I asking because i was learning how to play pool on my own and only from instruction videos online. So now I fed up with making mistakes that I want to build a right fundamentals.

Thanks for your help.
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Do whichever gives you the best results. Your preferred method may even change depending on the shot, for example, jacked up shots may require different places of focus for your eyes.
 
About the dominant eye thing, there is a video floating around that I can't seem to find at the moment. It is a snooker instructor who sets up a long straight in shot, and then uses two bridges to support the cue so it is ready to shoot the shot without anyone holding it.

Then you get down on the shot without moving the cue, and shift your head from side to side until the shot looks like it goes in. This tells you where your dominant eye should be during the shot.

Some players find out their dominant eye isn't exactly over the cue. Others don't realize they had a dominant eye.
 
Cue under chin or under dominant eye is up to you, depends on what works best.

Unwanted spin is a result of not hitting the cue ball where you intend.
 
Get your footwork consistent, too. People over look this, but he feet (if placed properly for you) will put you in the correct position. If they're wrong, you can get your stick right, but it will want to pull off depending on how off your feet are. Some players set their rear foot first, then step into the shot. Others will set their lead foot first and shoot their rear foot back as they bend down on the shot.

Body types can impact this, but for me, I have the cue line running over my right foot's big toe. My lead foot is parallel to the cue line. My lead foot used to point in toward the cue line, but I found it was all over the place until I forced myself to find a consistent position, which made a huge difference in my consistency. Chin near the cue, the cue line runs under my right nostril. That's my "vision center".
 
Several body parts should be on the line of the shot; grip hand, bridge hand, vision centre, back foot (although there are many top players that don't have it on the shot line), shoulder, elbow. Just try shooting some balls diagonally across table with all these things on the shot line to gain a feel for what it feels like. Then once you get comfortable with it, add an object ball in so you shoot a straight shot into the corner.

It doesn't matter where the chin is in relation to the shot line, just the vision centre. I strongly advise you look at Dr Daves website and in particular vision centre. He also has a video going through this which you will find very useful.

As for the unintentional side spin you apply, that's down to a cueing error. The reasons for which are numerous so without seeing you play, knowing what side you tend to hit, no one can offer advise on correcting it. If you take notice of what side you tend to hit then we can start offering you tips on correcting it. But hopefully if you get all the above things on the correct shot line then you should find cueing straight a lot easier.
 
West Point 1987 said:
Get your footwork consistent, too. People over look this, but he feet (if placed properly for you) will put you in the correct position. If they're wrong, you can get your stick right, but it will want to pull off depending on how off your feet are. Some players set their rear foot first, then step into the shot. Others will set their lead foot first and shoot their rear foot back as they bend down on the shot.

Body types can impact this, but for me, I have the cue line running over my right foot's big toe. My lead foot is parallel to the cue line. My lead foot used to point in toward the cue line, but I found it was all over the place until I forced myself to find a consistent position, which made a huge difference in my consistency. Chin near the cue, the cue line runs under my right nostril. That's my "vision center".
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I totally agree with this post.

There is a stance (foot placement, head height and position, grip position, etc.) for which I'm most accurate. For me, my key is placing my right foot so that it feels like it's pointing directly at the object ball. In reality, my right foot is at about a 30 degree angle (to the right of the shot).
When my right foot placement is "on," my stroke straightens up and I can feel an increase in the (accurate) power available. It just feels good.
Good Luck.
Shoot safe.
John
 
"Find a mirror that you can stand up at with your cue. Bend down to shoot as if the cue ball is right at the mirror surface. Look only at the cue tip in the mirror coming at your cue tip in reality. You want to align yourself so that it looks like if you stroked thru the mirror tip would go directly straight into your real tip. In other words the two cues should form a perfectly straight line. You will have to adjust where on your face you hold the cue in order for it to look like this. Now, when it looks perfectly straight, see where the cue sits on your face. *This* is your center of vision. You should make a real point to place this part of your face very precisely on the line of the shot. This way, you will *see* what *straight* is. This is so huge I can't even say."
[Quoting "KMRUNOUT"]
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The above post by KMR is the single best and most ingenious tip I've ever seen regarding finding the ideal position for your dominant eye (or your vision center if you luckily have no eye dominance) EXACTLY on the shot line. Try it -- it definitely instantly shows you -- and the mirror *objectively* cannot fail to tell you the truth, and very usefully indeed. Also doesn't cost a penny.

Arnaldo
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Another thing that helped me...I endeavor to always have the same distance between the tip of my nose and the CB. You want the same perspective everytime you can (sometimes it's not possible, but 90% of the time it is). That way, the aim, bridge and your perception of the CB when looking at it and past it at the OB is the same. I like to keep a slight bend in my bridge arm, so if I have to reach past an interfering ball to bridge I can reach forward and I'm still the same distance from the CB.
 
Hi there Chris.....

The Renfro said:
Dominant eye should be in a strong position standing upright at address. Strong does not mean over the cue for everyone. And the strong position can change as we get older and our eyes change. The dance moves from upright to down on the shot should be choreographed so that you do not let your eyes cross you up going down by letting the non-dominant eye cross over the shot line......

Geno has a neat little drill to help with this... I had seen it years ago but had forgotten all about it until he had me do it over the phone... If he doesn't chime in and tell you about it or have him call you in the next 2 days I will come back and post it....

Not so much about stealing his thunder.... (He thinks my tips get too much spin =P) More about knowing how much he enjoys teaching people....

Paging Gene...

Chris
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I like your tips and would like to try some as soon as possible. The ones I use are really spinning. Tired of it.

As far as helping I'm not supposed to talk too much for a few days to a week. Just had a tennis ball sized Cyst remover from my thyroid gland. No cancer. Whey! Just found out today but they cut me from ear to ear.

I told the surgeon great job and he said I'm not our of the woods yet.

Sleep sitting up for 14 days and need to keep a drain in my neck. They gave me 40 vicadin and 2 weeks worth of antibiotics.

Well. I called you chris in the middle of this post.

Sent you a PM to get some tips. Players need to try these that your souping up. I have heard allot of good stuff.

As far as the lesson over the phone, I need about 7 days to heal this neck and voice.

715-563-8712 but please do call...............
 
West Point 1987 said:
Get your footwork consistent, too. People over look this, but he feet (if placed properly for you) will put you in the correct position. If they're wrong, you can get your stick right, but it will want to pull off depending on how off your feet are. Some players set their rear foot first, then step into the shot. Others will set their lead foot first and shoot their rear foot back as they bend down on the shot.

Body types can impact this, but for me, I have the cue line running over my right foot's big toe. My lead foot is parallel to the cue line. My lead foot used to point in toward the cue line, but I found it was all over the place until I forced myself to find a consistent position, which made a huge difference in my consistency. Chin near the cue, the cue line runs under my right nostril. That's my "vision center".
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west point is dead on IMO, if you get your footwork right, everything else will pretty much naturally fall in place. You have to try various things until you find the one that works for you. One thing that seems to help...hold the cue down and parallel to the table in line with your shot, then pivot on your back foot and step forward with your other foot to slide into your stance. Imagine the pool stick moving back and forth in line with the shot all on its own, and you want to position your body around that so it doesnt effect the cuesticks path.
 
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