Bees wax ?

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My son recently moved my Brunswick Sport King to his house. (with my permission) He 'sealed' the 2 seams with Bees Wax. The problem is that it appears to have impregnated the cloth as the seam area is visible. It is level. There is not a ridge between to pieces but the underlying wax is 'visible' due to a darkening of the cloth in that area. Is there a simple solution or did he ruin the cloth?

Thanks in advance,
Rick
 
Table

Is it possible that the cloth got flipped and is now upside down?
The wax shows on the bottom side of the cloth unless he ironed the cloth after he was all done and wicked with wax up into the cloth.
 
dontlitethat said:
Is it possible that the cloth got flipped and is now upside down?
The wax shows on the bottom side of the cloth unless he ironed the cloth after he was all done and wicked with wax up into the cloth.
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Thanks,

It's not upside down & he did not iron it. Is it possible that he putt the cloth on before the wax hardened & it wicked up into the cloth? If so is there a solution?

Rick
 
Table

He had to of used a ton of wax or you live in a oven, I have never heard or seen of wax wicking up to the top of the cloth unless it was caused by heat
 
Unless he used the wax from a waxring that plumbers use for a toilet, that might cause the described.
 
That stuff stays greasy and sticky forever, in 13 years ive seen 2 tables where that was used and it was a mess and almost impossible to get off.
 
Summers are hot New Orleans !

No, he did not use the 'wax' from a toilet ring. It was Bee's Wax. The wax is not showing through. The cloth it just darker.

Thanks for the sarcasm & no help.
Rick
 
Table

Take a pool ball in hand and press down on the cloth with it, while pressing down skid the ball around the table. Go over the seam area with the ball. I'm sure you will find the seam and if there is any excess wax in it.
It takes a lot of work to get the seam blended to to unable to find or feel the seam with a pool ball, especially using bees wax in a seam
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I have seen stripes on the bottom of the cloth from the wax... Never on top
 
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dontlitethat said:
Take a pool ball in hand and press down on the cloth with it, while pressing down skid the ball around the table. Go over the seam area with the ball. I'm sure you will find the seam and if there is any excess wax in it.
It takes a lot of work to get the seam blended to to unable to find or feel the seam with a pool ball, especially using bees wax in a seam
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I have seen stripes on the bottom of the cloth from the wax... Never on top
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Thanks,

I think he put too much wax on and feathered out 'too' far & maybe put the cloth on too soon. The wax is not coming through but the cloth is darker in a 3 to 4" wide misc. 'wave' as if it would be if something wet were spilled on it, but it's not. It plays fine & you can not feel or see the actual seem, it's just the darker color.

Thanks again
Rick
 
sounds like if the aestheics are not pleasing put another cloth on
if it plays fine and thats all you care about accept the warts and play
im not a mechanic so take my opinion fwiw
 
ENGLISH! said:
No, he did not use the 'wax' from a toilet ring. It was Bee's Wax. The wax is not showing through. The cloth it just darker.

Thanks for the sarcasm & no help.
Rick
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Rick,

It was not meant as sarcasm. Bees wax comes in many different forms. from a creamy soft paste to a semi-soft form (like the soft BEES WAX ring that is used by plumbers to seal the base of toilets) to the "hard" stiff blocks and sticks that are the type used by table mechanics. I have seen several DIY jobs where the individual used the wrong type of wax and got the exact results that you are describing.

Sorry if our comments came off the wrong way.
 
I agree with tsp&b, the main question would be,

the slate table wax, comes in a solid block form and must be heated and melted and then poured into the seams and flowed out from there, then as the wax hardens, you shave the wax to a perfect level and the wax is then solid again and will not move or leach.

If this type of wax was not used, then there are many, 'bees waxes' that could have been used and laid onto the slate, and then smoothed out like lathe and plaster or a dry-wall job and it might look perfect initially, but when it comes in contact with the cloth or felt, then the other components in the wax can leach into the bed covering and leave marks and dark spots as you have mentioned.

As to the solution, if it was a quality high end, like gornita or simonis cloth, then you might be able to remove the cloth and clean with a cleaning solvent of some type and re-install, but I cannot guarnatee the results and you should contact the make of your bed cloth for cleaning products that are successful.

Hope this helps, in the future, if you are not positive, I would go with a professional, the cost to install is minimal if you figure the amount of enjoyment you will get with a top-notch professional installation and finish, just my opinion,

Good Luck

Mike 'acedonkeyace' Kennedy:grin:
 
tsp&b said:
Rick,

It was not meant as sarcasm. Bees wax comes in many different forms. from a creamy soft paste to a semi-soft form (like the soft BEES WAX ring that is used by plumbers to seal the base of toilets) to the "hard" stiff blocks and sticks that are the type used by table mechanics. I have seen several DIY jobs where the individual used the wrong type of wax and got the exact results that you are describing.

Sorry if our comments came off the wrong way.
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No problem, seems it was my fault for not knowing my Bee's Wax. And my son's too as I believe he did use a paste type. If he did, is there anything that can be done to force or get the wax out of the cloth or should it be left alone til time for recover? Can cold glass like a frozen mug do anyting or a hair dryer & a vacum cleaner do something?

Thanks in advance,
Rick
 
I am not a mechanic, but I would suggest that if you ever redo the table again, to use Bondo for the seam and not Bee's wax.

That is what was used on my table by RKC.
 
Thanks guys,

Everything else went fine. the table is dead level & the seams are 'perfect' except for the 'wavey' darker color. I hate to think of pulling the cloth to 'try' & clean it. I think we'll just wait a while & then replace it. It is not 'new' but still has alot of good life left in it.

Thanks again,
Rick
 
in theory, you could (carefully) remove the cloth, clean up the waxy mess on the table, have the cloth dry-cleaned, and start over from scratch.

just know that the cloth will be unhappy with you for having done that, and its lifespan will be drastically shorter.
 
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