benefits of an ivory ferrule?

JMW said:
What are the benefits of an ivory ferrule? Pros and cons?

pros

1 stays clean

2 all natural

3 its a renewable natural resource

cons

i have yet to find any
 
> It does indeed stay clean,like nothing else because when polished it has a harder surface finish and small enough pores that nothing can get into it. I truly think it's the best material playability wise too. The only cons to me are the precautions that must be taken weather-wise,and the higher cost of new Schon shafts with ivory installed,as well as the cost of blanks to install them myself. Tommy D.
 
question on #3

merylane said:
pros

1 stays clean

2 all natural

3 its a renewable natural resource

cons

i have yet to find any
Why would you say "its a renewable natural resource" ???? since its not even legal to import real ivory unless its certified that it is classified as "antique" (more than 100 years in age) if you can produce documentation proving the ivory's age.

:confused:

Due to the rapid decline in the populations of the animals that produce it, the importation and sale of ivory in many countries is banned or severely restricted. Much of the decline in population is due to poachers during and before the 1980s.

A confusing jumble of U.S. laws has allowed ivory markets to thrive in various areas: in San Francisco, in New York, on the Internet, even at craft shows in Virginia. These markets may seem innocuous to the people who still have the need to buy ivory, but they are deadly, no matter how indirectly, to the elephants who actually supply the raw material for these popular trinkets, knickknacks and pieces of jewelry.

History has proven that markets drive the illegal trade in ivory, and the illegal trade in ivory drives the poaching of elephants, including those species protected by the Endangered Species Act. Simply put, the poaching of elephants for the ivory trade continues primarily because domestic markets for ivory still flourish.

The Ivory Ban

It's no secret that elephants are facing extinction because humans value ivory. In 1989, the international trade in ivory from African elephants was banned by the Parties to the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), the treaty that governs much of the international trade in plants and animals. International trade in Asian elephant ivory had already been banned in 1975. Before the 1989 ban, CITES had tried to regulate and control the ivory trade. It couldn't. By 1989, it was estimated that 90% of ivory in the so-called legal trade was from poached elephants. It was clear that a legal ivory trade was a death sentence to elephants. Individual nations passed laws to implement that ban.

The Legal Trade

In the United States, African and Asian elephants are protected by the Endangered Species Act and the Asian and African Elephant Conservation Acts. But each year the U.S. government allows the legal import of thousands of elephant ivory objects, mostly in the form of carvings, but also as jewelry, unworked pieces, piano keys, hunting trophies, and individual tusks. Legally imported ivory was valued at an average of $164.8 million per year between 1997–2001.
 
Having said all of that..

I do have one cue with an ivory ferrule it was made in the '60s and was given to me as a birthday present it still has the original ferrule! the statements about keeping clean etc are true! as far as hit I have no reference since this is the only ferrule that has been on the cue!
 
MrLucky said:
Why would you say "its a renewable natural resource" ???? since its not even legal to import real ivory unless its certified that it is classified as "antique" (more than 100 years in age) if you can produce documentation proving the ivory's age.

:confused:

Due to the rapid decline in the populations of the animals that produce it, the importation and sale of ivory in many countries is banned or severely restricted. Much of the decline in population is due to poachers during and before the 1980s.

A confusing jumble of U.S. laws has allowed ivory markets to thrive in various areas: in San Francisco, in New York, on the Internet, even at craft shows in Virginia. These markets may seem innocuous to the people who still have the need to buy ivory, but they are deadly, no matter how indirectly, to the elephants who actually supply the raw material for these popular trinkets, knickknacks and pieces of jewelry.

History has proven that markets drive the illegal trade in ivory, and the illegal trade in ivory drives the poaching of elephants, including those species protected by the Endangered Species Act. Simply put, the poaching of elephants for the ivory trade continues primarily because domestic markets for ivory still flourish.

The Ivory Ban

It's no secret that elephants are facing extinction because humans value ivory. In 1989, the international trade in ivory from African elephants was banned by the Parties to the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), the treaty that governs much of the international trade in plants and animals. International trade in Asian elephant ivory had already been banned in 1975. Before the 1989 ban, CITES had tried to regulate and control the ivory trade. It couldn't. By 1989, it was estimated that 90% of ivory in the so-called legal trade was from poached elephants. It was clear that a legal ivory trade was a death sentence to elephants. Individual nations passed laws to implement that ban.

The Legal Trade

In the United States, African and Asian elephants are protected by the Endangered Species Act and the Asian and African Elephant Conservation Acts. But each year the U.S. government allows the legal import of thousands of elephant ivory objects, mostly in the form of carvings, but also as jewelry, unworked pieces, piano keys, hunting trophies, and individual tusks. Legally imported ivory was valued at an average of $164.8 million per year between 1997–2001.


what a joke.... reminds me of the alligator.
 
merylane said:
pros

1 stays clean

2 all natural

3 its a renewable natural resource

cons

i have yet to find any

I have a con but I'm not sure why?

Recently I had a custom cue that had ivory ferrules and this thing deflected worse than anything I have ever seen. Would you attribute that to ivory ferrules and if so, how do you counter that?
Obviously it can't be this way all the time because so many people love the feel and hit of ivory.

Seriously, I have given up on ivory because of this and would love to know if it was a freak thing or something that is inherent with ivory.

Thanks,
Koop
 
why do you think it was the ferrule ...

Koop said:
I have a con but I'm not sure why?

Recently I had a custom cue that had ivory ferrules and this thing deflected worse than anything I have ever seen. Would you attribute that to ivory ferrules and if so, how do you counter that?
Obviously it can't be this way all the time because so many people love the feel and hit of ivory.

Seriously, I have given up on ivory because of this and would love to know if it was a freak thing or something that is inherent with ivory.

Thanks,
Koop

and not the shaft! :confused:
 
Just my humble 2 cents.
Ivory Pros:
Stays Clean unless abused
Hits great for those who like to "feel" their strokes/shots/cueball
Goes well with hard tips, I think they impart english very well together
Has a nice sound to them
Good resale value

Cons
Prone to cracking unless fiber-backed or really old and have a thick cap
Heavy-Deflection police's nightmare
Changes playability ( supposedly ) more than any ferrule material due to temperature and humidity

Interestingly enough, screwed-on ivory ferrules were big in the old days.
Those who love them will not play with anything else.
 
Cornerman said:
Also check Colin Colenso's video on BHE. He talks about where his pivot point is.

Fred

That's exactly what I needed, thanks Fred and thank you again Colin. Makes perfect sense.
 
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