Best glue to use for installing a new tip?

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Comeback Kid

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Everyone says I should use Tweeten 10 minute contact cement type glue for putting on my new tip, which I'm told is standard. I have another person saying to use Super Glue gel type and that works good. The Super Glue gel states not to use on items that see lots of shock. I figure this would happen during regular shooting or if someone drops the stick. Based on this, any opinions out there on which glue works the best? Thanks......Rich
 
Comeback Kid said:
Everyone says I should use Tweeten 10 minute contact cement type glue for putting on my new tip, which I'm told is standard. I have another person saying to use Super Glue gel type and that works good. The Super Glue gel states not to use on items that see lots of shock. I figure this would happen during regular shooting or if someone drops the stick. Based on this, any opinions out there on which glue works the best? Thanks......Rich
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I have been using Locktite Super Glue Gel for 5 years with no problems. Some ferrules are hard to work with and will give you a problem. I scratch an X in the top of the ferrule on problem cues. The super hard jump tips have also given me some trouble.
Purdman
 
Comeback Kid said:
Everyone says I should use Tweeten 10 minute contact cement type glue for putting on my new tip, which I'm told is standard. I have another person saying to use Super Glue gel type and that works good. The Super Glue gel states not to use on items that see lots of shock. I figure this would happen during regular shooting or if someone drops the stick. Based on this, any opinions out there on which glue works the best? Thanks......Rich
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The guy that does my tips uses the Loctite also. I never had a tip come off. In fact the only one that did come off is when he ran out of the Loctite and used the super glue.
 
Comeback Kid said:
Everyone says I should use Tweeten 10 minute contact cement type glue for putting on my new tip, which I'm told is standard. I have another person saying to use Super Glue gel type and that works good. The Super Glue gel states not to use on items that see lots of shock. I figure this would happen during regular shooting or if someone drops the stick. Based on this, any opinions out there on which glue works the best? Thanks......Rich
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Tweetens is old tech. Loctite super glue gel - definitely. Make sure you scruff up the back of the tip with a file or sandpaper before gluing.

You can shape it and play with your cue in 20 minutes too. I've never had one come off.

Chris
 
I seriously doubt "everyone" includes those of us doing repairs.
I've been using either Duro® Gel of Locktite Quicktite® for about 6 years with zero problems.

Troy
Comeback Kid said:
Everyone says I should use Tweeten 10 minute contact cement type glue for putting on my new tip, which I'm told is standard. I have another person saying to use Super Glue gel type and that works good. The Super Glue gel states not to use on items that see lots of shock. I figure this would happen during regular shooting or if someone drops the stick. Based on this, any opinions out there on which glue works the best? Thanks......Rich
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StormHotRod300 said:
the guy i goto for new tips uses Gorrilla glue, i guess its pretty strong stuff lol
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It is but it takes overnight to dry. It also expands, so he has to clamp down on that tip.
 
We use duro quick gel for the most part. We use a new tube everytime we do a group of tips regardless of how much is left over in a tube used previously. the left over we use for other stuff instead. I have some loctite also, but have not even tried It on tips yet.
 
When I use super gel, I press the tip on and hold it for a few seconds. Then I release the pressure for a few seconds, then press down on the tip again. I repeat this 2-3 times during drying. This seems to help its sticking power.

I'm no chemist, but the way I understand it is super glue creates tiny strands that tie the two pieces together. By varying the pressure during drying time, the strands form at various lengths. This allows the tip to stay on regardless of force of compression on the tip.

Any chemist here that can confirm/refute this?

Jeff Livingston
 
Don't mistake using the liquid cyanoacrylate instead of the gel, for the liquid can wick/permeate into the tip and set up hard/brittle. When this happens, the tip will shatter and break off if hit hard like when breaking the rack.
 
Zims Rack said:
Loctite!!!

Zim
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Please take no offense, this is just a pet peeve of mine. Loctite is a corporation, officially Henkel Loctite Corporation (since 2002 they are a subsidiary of Henkel KGaA, a large German company). Loctite specialize in various adhesives since their start in 1953, and market thousands of different kinds (my guess). They serve many markets, but are possibly most known for their original product, a thread locking 'adhesive'. I don't think that stuff would hold a tip on a pool cue very well. I think that most would assume you refer to a cyanoacrylate type glue, commonly refered to as "Crazy Glue" after another brand that advertized, well, like CRAZY.

On this page Loctite lists 37 _different_ CA adhesives :

http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3

Which one(s) is(are) recommended for pool cue tips ?

Dave
 
chefjeff said:
When I use super gel, I press the tip on and hold it for a few seconds. Then I release the pressure for a few seconds, then press down on the tip again. I repeat this 2-3 times during drying. This seems to help its sticking power.
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This sounds like something that you don't want to do.

Sherm Adamson Advice

Fred
 
DaveK said:
They serve many markets, but are possibly most known for their original product, a thread locking 'adhesive'. I don't think that stuff would hold a tip on a pool cue very well. I think that most would assume you refer to a cyanoacrylate type glue, commonly refered to as "Crazy Glue" after another brand that advertized, well, like CRAZY.......

Which one(s) is(are) recommended for pool cue tips ?

Dave
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I have used Loctite QuickTite for quite a while, never had any problems. I do clamp the tip after gluing for about 15-20 minutes, then shape and finish. I have also used Duro Super Gel. which I have heard is also made by LocTite.

Using the gel type is important - I tried some of the "Crazy Glue" thin type cyanoacrylate once, had a customer pop a hard tip on a break. Reinstalled with the QuickTite and no more problems.

The "thread locking adhesive" works OK, too. I have a machinist friend who uses red Loctite for his tips and has had no problems.

Walt in VA
 
DaveK said:
Please take no offense, this is just a pet peeve of mine. Loctite is a corporation, officially Henkel Loctite Corporation (since 2002 they are a subsidiary of Henkel KGaA, a large German company). Loctite specialize in various adhesives since their start in 1953, and market thousands of different kinds (my guess). They serve many markets, but are possibly most known for their original product, a thread locking 'adhesive'. I don't think that stuff would hold a tip on a pool cue very well. I think that most would assume you refer to a cyanoacrylate type glue, commonly refered to as "Crazy Glue" after another brand that advertized, well, like CRAZY.

On this page Loctite lists 37 _different_ CA adhesives :

http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3

Which one(s) is(are) recommended for pool cue tips ?

Dave
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454 is my choice when I use a CA glue.

Epoxy is my favorite though.
 
Murray Tucker said:
454 is my choice when I use a CA glue.

Epoxy is my favorite though.
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How do epoxied tips come off when they need replacing ? Also, do you use the '5 minute' variety or something more exotic ? The stuff that is used for golf shafts is much much much stronger, but takes hours to set and a day to cure (at room temp). That is likely overkill, but would like to hear what type you use.

Dave
 
DaveK said:
How do epoxied tips come off when they need replacing ? Also, do you use the '5 minute' variety or something more exotic ? The stuff that is used for golf shafts is much much much stronger, but takes hours to set and a day to cure (at room temp). That is likely overkill, but would like to hear what type you use.

Dave
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I use a slower epoxy that kicks off in about 30 min and has to sit overninght to cure. The name escapes me right now and I am at work and can't go look at the bottles. It is a good viscosity and made for working on model air planes, boats etc. When I epoxy on a ferrule I smear the excess on top, pop a tip on it and use a rubber band as a clamp. When it cures I cut the tip and ferrule at the same time. Can't tell much of a differece between epoxy and CA when it comes to cutting one off the ferrule but then again I use a lathe. Might be a issue for do it yourselfer.
 
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