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Do you really believe all that?

Any company outsourcing anything is still responsible for the product they sell. This is properly done by internal or third party qc and by writing the specifications for the product.

The sad fact is that China is fully capable of producing anything a customer requests. If they request garbage, they get garbage.

Predator probably has standards to check quality, I know the president and he wouldn’t really allow bad products to mess up the Predator name. If they did he would definitely care about it and take action. He is too highly driven to let things get past him, especially on purpose.

As for other companies, though they are responsible they don’t necessarily have or can afford their own quality assurance departments. Even those are outsourced. When you call and complain about an item you are connected to a third party which has a script to follow. This has been engineered by the product owner in advance and is more cost effective than holding employees to do it.

A lot of companies that make things now are only a few dozen cubicles on a single floor of an office building. There is no making locally. No shipping. No call center. No labs. It is all done on computers, though emails, and through outsourcing.

Don’t complain that things used to be better back in the old days. You all enjoyed a life during the most economically prosperous time for white men in the history of the modern world in the US. The bell curve is now more spread out to accommodate everyone possible. It is just different now and less convenient for consumers, but more products are available then there ever were.
 
I am specif a cue. Computer programming is a skill, I just don’t think that part of cue building has anything to do with how a cue plays. I do not believe a cue with 1000 holes cut into it filled w other materials is going to hit as well as just solid wood.
I actually just talked with my cue guy about this today. He doesn’t make cues anymore, just does repairs. It surprised me when he said points actually help the feel along with changing grain structures and directions along with obviously wood choice. I was always under the impression that a MW would play best but he said that’s not the case. Everyone has their own opinion but I do trust him as he’s been working on/ making cues for longer than I’ve been alive.
 
I actually just talked with my cue guy about this today. He doesn’t make cues anymore, just does repairs. It surprised me when he said points actually help the feel along with changing grain structures and directions along with obviously wood choice. I was always under the impression that a MW would play best but he said that’s not the case. Everyone has their own opinion but I do trust him as he’s been working on/ making cues for longer than I’ve been alive.
Interesting claim. Did he mean splicing or just points? Guessing, either would tend to stiffen up the resonance and curb bonkiness.
 
I am specif a cue. Computer programming is a skill, I just don’t think that part of cue building has anything to do with how a cue plays. I do not believe a cue with 1000 holes cut into it filled w other materials is going to hit as well as just solid wood.
Well have you ever renovated a house? You can put holes all over the place through 2x4’s for electrical and plumbing needs, like up to 2” holes and they will still have enough structural integrity to hold up your house.😉 I’m just saying if the wood was not holding up well with all the inlays they would probably pop out. Just a thought on the subject. I don’t like gaudy much. But when Hans said they can be so gaudy they are cool I did laugh for a sec. And also maybe on your line of thinking the inlays would actually make for a softer hit with some woods which some prefer and would call a better hit.

Edit: I only got to page 3, but this seemed to pop up in the right place.😂😂🤷‍♂️
 
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Do you really believe all that?

Any company outsourcing anything is still responsible for the product they sell. This is properly done by internal or third party qc and by writing the specifications for the product.

The sad fact is that China is fully capable of producing anything a customer requests. If they request garbage, they get garbage.
I agree, Predator is responsible for any product they put their name on. In the matter of cases, they have failed.
 
I don't know if Mike Gullyassy still plays or makes cues but if he's in stroke he could play on the pro tour IMO. Jerry McWorter plays well too. He's becomming quite the One Pocket Player these days I hear.
 
Yes Mike still makes cues , he and I talked on the phone a couple weeks ago a darn nice guy which I hope to meet in person some day , I'd also like to get some lessons from him if possible .

As I've said before I really enjoy playing with the cue he made its a favorite of mine and has increased my willingness to try shots I normally wouldn't take and many of those shots I now make !
 
basically any cue that has the hit you like and feels good in your hands is the perfect playing cue for you. nothing else matters. with in reason of course.

if you pick a cue you ordered or never have hit or is just the beautiful looking cue of your dreams you are making a huge mistake, unless you get lucky and can adapt to it.
 
Predator probably has standards to check quality, I know the president and he wouldn’t really allow bad products to mess up the Predator name. If they did he would definitely care about it and take action. He is too highly driven to let things get past him, especially on purpose.

As for other companies, though they are responsible they don’t necessarily have or can afford their own quality assurance departments. Even those are outsourced. When you call and complain about an item you are connected to a third party which has a script to follow. This has been engineered by the product owner in advance and is more cost effective than holding employees to do it.

A lot of companies that make things now are only a few dozen cubicles on a single floor of an office building. There is no making locally. No shipping. No call center. No labs. It is all done on computers, though emails, and through outsourcing.

Don’t complain that things used to be better back in the old days. You all enjoyed a life during the most economically prosperous time for white men in the history of the modern world in the US. The bell curve is now more spread out to accommodate everyone possible. It is just different now and less convenient for consumers, but more products are available then there ever were.
Really? Since you know the president, tell him his particle board tables are horrendous. As is his chalk, cloth and Arco ball sets. Predator started out well many many moons ago but became just another corporation that outsources production and then puts their label on it. They’re now nothing more than a marketing company.
 
Really? Since you know the president, tell him his particle board tables are horrendous. As is his chalk, cloth and Arco ball sets. Predator started out well many many moons ago but became just another corporation that outsources production and then puts their label on it. They’re now nothing more than a marketing company.
I have to agree, somewhat, with this comment. Predator seems to think glamor over quality is the way to go. I base this on the quality of their tables, cases, and accessories. I have tried their Urbain, Metro cases, and the shoulder strap tears off after a few months of use. While some like their cues, I feel like they are over priced for what you get. Tables feel cheaply made as well. Predator chalk is ok, but will make tables diryy in time.
 
I have to agree, somewhat, with this comment. Predator seems to think glamor over quality is the way to go. I base this on the quality of their tables, cases, and accessories. I have tried their Urbain, Metro cases, and the shoulder strap tears off after a few months of use. While some like their cues, I feel like they are over priced for what you get. Tables feel cheaply made as well. Predator chalk is ok, but will make tables diryy in time.
I gotta hand it to Predator sometimes. They have cultivated a loyal base of fanboys who would buy horseshit if it was stamped 'Predator'. Some of their stuff is nice but they also have made a lot of substandard crap imo. As they say in my neck of the woods, "too much hat and not enough cattle". LOT of hype involved and they do it well.
 
I have to agree, somewhat, with this comment. Predator seems to think glamor over quality is the way to go. I base this on the quality of their tables, cases, and accessories. I have tried their Urbain, Metro cases, and the shoulder strap tears off after a few months of use. While some like their cues, I feel like they are over priced for what you get. Tables feel cheaply made as well. Predator chalk is ok, but will make tables diryy in time.
The roadline case by predator is really good the straps do not come off at all since having it all year now
as is the sport case even better, the best quality of case from them by far
 
Really? Since you know the president, tell him his particle board tables are horrendous. As is his chalk, cloth and Arco ball sets. Predator started out well many many moons ago but became just another corporation that outsources production and then puts their label on it. They’re now nothing more than a marketing company.
youve got to be kidding about the arcos balls, if youve actually played any amount of time with them youd never be able to say that
the cloth is fine plays very good having it in houston for the last few years
have you actually played on any of this???
 
I'll say it again... Guido Orlandi in Michigan, makes some of the Best Playing cues on Planet Earth. His Conical Joint makes a 2-piece Cue, feel like a 1-piece Cue & his finish is flawless. I sold all of my fancy cues, to play with the MAGIC WAND he made me.,..
 
So many answers. I’m confused at your question, or you’re sort of asking something else. CNC doesn’t mean 1000 inlays. Inlays doesn’t mean anything to playability.

But here’s some answers that might be confusing:

Tascarella
Dennis Searing
John Showman

come to mind. They all do inlays. No CNCs. All meant to be played.
If I taper shafts or butts on a CNC machine, is it then a CNC made cue? If the spindle is controlled by stepper motors or is guided along a taper bar makes no difference in my mind. The big advantage of tapering on a CNC is that I can do a multitude if tapers by changing parameters on the fly.
 
I gotta hand it to Predator sometimes. They have cultivated a loyal base of fanboys who would buy horseshit if it was stamped 'Predator'. Some of their stuff is nice but they also have made a lot of substandard crap imo. As they say in my neck of the woods, "too much hat and not enough cattle". LOT of hype involved and they do it well.
Your fanboy comment is very funny and I know a lot of custom cue guys would fit in that category as well if their favorite cuemaker took a dump it would be the best dump ever, as well as the most precision crap ever. Best playing cue is kind of a loaded question, because you can take the cue you think is the worst and give it to SVB and he might run 125 with it. So is it really the best playing cue, or the hands it is in.

JV (FTR Gus took most precision crap ever IMHO... :ROFLMAO:)
 
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