best playing table
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Is it just me that has a problem trying to dig balls out of my opponants pocket when playing one pocket on Diamond tables. Seems to me that the way the pockets are cut so deep it is very difficult to take balls out with any consistency. I wind up having to give up balls that I could normally take out on other tables. Do some of you have the same problem? Other than that I like the Diamond tables.
Ummmm Hello, you forgot the exquisite Valley Cougar
You left out the Gabriels Signature Pro. I just bought one and I can honestly say that it plays as well as anything out there. It plays very similar to the Diamond Pro-Am.
http://www.gabrielsbilliards.com/
Here's a picture of mine:
http://members.cox.net/jadame/gabriels-table.jpg
http://www.gabrielsbilliards.com/
Here's a picture of mine:
http://members.cox.net/jadame/gabriels-table.jpg
jsp said:
They are comparable. $4715 new and $4250 tournament used. That is excluding any shipping and setup.
Those were the prices when I bought mine a couple weeks ago but I was told that the price could go up because of the currency conversion rate (the tables are built in The Netherlands).
Diamond is actually the U.S. Distributor so, if you're interested, Paul Smith at Diamond is the guy to talk to.
Jimmy M. said:
I like your felt --- just got my old table recovered a couple months ago in that color. Didn't know how I would like it since I have always had green, but this plays well on the eyes.
On the contrary, the room I play in has a bunch of Gandys and I like 'em!shamadam said:
Nothing, however, beats my old Brunswick Anniversary. But that's just me!
Brian in VA
The Pool Bear
Don't feed the BEAR!!!
Diamond VS Gold Crown (all others need not apply)
Diamond Professional VS Brunswick Gold Crown
OK, Before you even read another post on this topic, you should check out a few things first. It would appear that there is a lot of misinformation out there. A few things I would like to clear up about the two BEST PLAYING TABLES out there.
1. All Diamond Professionals are 3 PIECE SLATE. The 9' Professionals are 1.25" thick backed Italian Slate and the 7' & 8' Professionals are 1" thick backes Brizilian Slate. The Brunswick Gold Crown IV & V use 1" thick backed Brizilian Slate ONLY
2. The Rail on a Diamond is 7" wide from the tip of the rubber to the end of the rail. The Rails on a Brunswick Gold Crown IV & the new GC V is 7.5" wide.
3. The cut of the rails on the Diamond vs. that of the Brunswick as it pertains to the ANGLE entering the pockets (both corner and side) is identical. It is the cut of the SLATE in the pockets themselves that is different. The Diamonds are cut to provide a DEEPER pocket than that of the Brunswicks (3/8" difference in the corners and 1/4" difference in the sides). This can make them play a bit different.
The National Average retail price for a 9' Gold Crown IV is around $7800 (+ cloth, installation, delivery, players package [i.e. balls, sticks, rack, chalk, ect]). The NEW Gold Crown V available in October 2007 will likely be around $8500 +++
A Diamond 9' Professional will range in price from $4700 to $7500 depending on the wood type. Add in the cloth, installation, delivery, players package and you can have a 9' Diamond Pro in your house ready to play for under $6000.
The Diamond Professional uses K-55 Profile cushions and the Brunswick Gold Crowns use K-66 Profile cushions. Both are great natural gum rubber formulated cushions. The profile is a personal pref. IMHO
So, the best advice I can give you is to READ ALOT ABOUT EACH TABLE;
http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/brunswick_collection/tables/competition/gold_crown_iv.html for the Brunswick Gold Crown
http://diamondbilliardproducts.com/The-Professional.htm for the Diamond Professional
Find a place in your town or close enough for you to drive to, and play on each on them. Then you will KNOW which one you want in your home.
Diamond Professional VS Brunswick Gold Crown
OK, Before you even read another post on this topic, you should check out a few things first. It would appear that there is a lot of misinformation out there. A few things I would like to clear up about the two BEST PLAYING TABLES out there.
1. All Diamond Professionals are 3 PIECE SLATE. The 9' Professionals are 1.25" thick backed Italian Slate and the 7' & 8' Professionals are 1" thick backes Brizilian Slate. The Brunswick Gold Crown IV & V use 1" thick backed Brizilian Slate ONLY
2. The Rail on a Diamond is 7" wide from the tip of the rubber to the end of the rail. The Rails on a Brunswick Gold Crown IV & the new GC V is 7.5" wide.
3. The cut of the rails on the Diamond vs. that of the Brunswick as it pertains to the ANGLE entering the pockets (both corner and side) is identical. It is the cut of the SLATE in the pockets themselves that is different. The Diamonds are cut to provide a DEEPER pocket than that of the Brunswicks (3/8" difference in the corners and 1/4" difference in the sides). This can make them play a bit different.
The National Average retail price for a 9' Gold Crown IV is around $7800 (+ cloth, installation, delivery, players package [i.e. balls, sticks, rack, chalk, ect]). The NEW Gold Crown V available in October 2007 will likely be around $8500 +++
A Diamond 9' Professional will range in price from $4700 to $7500 depending on the wood type. Add in the cloth, installation, delivery, players package and you can have a 9' Diamond Pro in your house ready to play for under $6000.
The Diamond Professional uses K-55 Profile cushions and the Brunswick Gold Crowns use K-66 Profile cushions. Both are great natural gum rubber formulated cushions. The profile is a personal pref. IMHO
So, the best advice I can give you is to READ ALOT ABOUT EACH TABLE;
http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/brunswick_collection/tables/competition/gold_crown_iv.html for the Brunswick Gold Crown
http://diamondbilliardproducts.com/The-Professional.htm for the Diamond Professional
Find a place in your town or close enough for you to drive to, and play on each on them. Then you will KNOW which one you want in your home.
Gabriels
I'm with you but I'm kind of partial because that's what I have. I was actually trying to find a Diamond ProAm in my area with no luck. I ended up stumbling on a Gabriels and it is a very well made table. I sold my GC to get it and the Gabriels is made way better. I like it a lot. I'd still like to try out a Diamond but there just aren't any in my area.JoeyInCali said:
Best Tables Ive ever played on was a Brunswick Gold Crown IV, Diamond Pro.....and my all time fav Olhauson Champion Pro