BEST 'Puter for live streams?

pwd72s

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I'm supposedly running a pentium 4 chip...but despite placing ONLY the OTB stream on the machine, while trying to watch the OTB stream my computer would yield a choppy image, then freeze...giving a popup saying "100% CPU usage".

This AFTER I'd done a disc clean up and cleaned out all the cookies.

Had to give up watching...

So, any computer whiz folk here? I really enjoy watching streams of tournaments, but evidently this machine won't handle it. :frown:

(edit) I'm on Comcast cable...so the bandwidth shouldn't be a problem?
 
That could well be it...with itunes, pics, etc.? A local computer guy "built" the machine for us. Receipt reads:
Pentium 4 2:66-3.2
1 6:6 Kingston 806:6 WD HD DVD writer

Other than that, not much info...

I confess, I don't have a clue what all that means
 
I would expect that you have 3 to 4 GB of RAM, which should be enough. Sounds like you have a bunch of processes running in the background. iTunes, for example. If it is as I expect, that is why you are having the problems. Not that you don't have enough machine.

My "techy" days are long since passed, so I won't try and troubleshoot it anyfurther. I fully expect you will get a bunch of responses from people far better suited to get you straight. I'm only responding to tell you that you probably do have enough computer, it's just got too much stuff running at one time for effective streaming.

My semi-educated half-a$$ed guess. :D
 
Right mouse click over the "Computer" icon on your desktop.
Under Properties, you should see how much RAM is installed..
 
That could well be it...with itunes, pics, etc.? A local computer guy "built" the machine for us. Receipt reads:
Pentium 4 2:66-3.2
1 6:6 Kingston 806:6 WD HD DVD writer

Other than that, not much info...

I confess, I don't have a clue what all that means

P4 3.2 gig should be plenty to run a stream, as is any amount of RAM 1 gig or more. I run streams on a laptop with a lesser processor and 1 gig of RAM.

That popup is a bit odd, your CPU can run at 100% but should never actually come up with a message saying that.

Do you know what you have for a video card? Download and run a program called CPUZ, it will have an option to save the results as a file. It will give you very detailed system summary. Save it and if you post it online, send me a PM with the location.
 
That could well be it...with itunes, pics, etc.? A local computer guy "built" the machine for us. Receipt reads:
Pentium 4 2:66-3.2
1 6:6 Kingston 806:6 WD HD DVD writer

Other than that, not much info...

I confess, I don't have a clue what all that means

Download the free copy of Belarc Advisor.
It will produce a list of all the stuff that makes up your computer - hardware software

http://belarc.com/free_download.html

Personally, I suspect the problem is the streamer - lack of server capacity, not your computer.

Sometimes you can improve things by refreshing.
Sometimes repeatedly:D
 
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I would also like to see the Belarc report. Suggest that you download, UPDATE, then run a full scan and fix whatever is found using this program

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Malwarebytes-AntiMalware/1186760019/1 The program is simple to use but should be updated each time it is used as updates come out very often. I have yet to have a problem originate as a result of using that program. It is a demanding program so be prepared to allow it to run for an hour or so without using your computer othewise (unless you have a powerhouse which is obviously not the case here).

If you have Windows XP, a very useful little utility is StartupCPL by Mike Lin. http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml It adds a "Startup" icon to your control panel and from there you can uncheck startup items which are not normally needed. By that I mean iTunes helper, updaters, and similar. Things which are used only occasionally. The website linked shows a bit of instruction for the program's use.

Cutting back on non-essential programs and services that auto-start with the computer will free up needed resources.

You also didn't mention running Disk Defragmenter. Some of the newer operating systems will schedule and do this for you but XP does not. Go to All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter and click it. Select C hard drive and then Defragment. Do all your hard drives. I recommend doing the drive that holds the operating system at least once per week, the others at least once per two weeks.
 
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I'm supposedly running a pentium 4 chip...but despite placing ONLY the OTB stream on the machine, while trying to watch the OTB stream my computer would yield a choppy image, then freeze...giving a popup saying "100% CPU usage".

This AFTER I'd done a disc clean up and cleaned out all the cookies.

Had to give up watching...

So, any computer whiz folk here? I really enjoy watching streams of tournaments, but evidently this machine won't handle it. :frown:

(edit) I'm on Comcast cable...so the bandwidth shouldn't be a problem?

Bandwidth may well be a problem. Cable is shared bandwidth, not dedicated. So all those gamers in your neighborhood (network segment) may be playing a big part in slowing you down.

Also, Microsoft Windows may also be the problem. You may unknowingly have adware/spyware or worse yet, a spam-bot. Personally, I run Linux, so those are not a worry for me.
 
A P4 is a pretty old machine. Have you cleaned it up or performed a fresh install in the past many years? If not, it's likely full of junk, dragging it down.
 
Not much useful information given, such as amount of RAM, operating system (Mac OS, XP, Windows 7, Linux). So this may be hit or miss.

In Windows, you can run TaskManager (alt, control, delete). This will show what programs are running, how much available memory and how much CPU is being used. If you have a couple of programs running, and CPU usage is high, then try running only UStream and nothing else.

UStream uses Flash, so you may need to update Flash. The video codec flash is using may be out of date, and inefficient.

If its an old system and you're looking to replace it, relegate it to surfing the web and checking e-mail, then buy a mac. As a Desktop Engineer, Macs currently have replaced Dells as the hassle free computers.
 
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Many thanks for all the answers...I'm going to turn this thread over to Cindy, since she is the one more up on computers than me. I hoe she'll post if she has more questions...looks like we have lots of stuff to try!

Sorry I'm such an ignorant guy...Technically illiterate here. I'm still stone age...my first car had a tube radio that only got close stations on the AM band. I feel like I've been falling behind on technology ever since. :)
 
You most likely have so many processes running on your computer that it's bogging it down and I highly doubt it's the stream bogging it down. You can use a program like FCleaner, or Ashampoo to control your start-up processes. Along with that you can go and clear all internet history from your browser.

Your other option is to do a complete reformat. This may seem like a huge hassle, but if you've saved what you downloaded (.exe, .rar, .zip files etc) then you can burn them to disk and it isn't too bad. Once you get done with all that it sometimes takes less time than finding all the junk on your computer.

I'm running a Sony Vaio with an Intel i5 processor and 4gb of RAM and haven't had any problems, but I also use programs to completely uninstall programs and FileShredder to completely delete files.
 
Macbook Pro

Oh boy, here we go -- let the Mac-vs-PC wars begin! :o

Just like justadub, my 20-something-year-old-gadget-geek days are long over. I'm just a sage old deep data center network backbone kind of guy now, and I try to stay away from the "can you fix my son's/daughter's PC?" issues as much as I can.

However, it does sound like the OP either:

1. Has too many things running at once, that are causing too much context-switching on the CPU. This is especially troublesome when you have too many kernel-level "ring 0" processes -- e.g. graphics device drivers -- running that are demanding "real time" attention from the CPU. Recommendation: when watching a live stream, close-down (and I mean Quit & Exit, not minimize to the Taskbar) other things that are graphics-intensive (e.g. if you have Windows Media Player running with that *&^%$#@! graphic kaleidoscope that bounces/behaves in tune with the music -- KILL IT!). If you have a webpage displaying (besides the one that is displaying the live stream itself) that has all these Java applets, animated graphics, etc. -- KILL IT! If you have any kind of PDA/SmartPhone "synchronizing" software (e.g. Palm HotSync) -- KILL IT!

2. You could have either virus, Trojan Horse, or viral adware/malware installed -- especially in the browser itself. (And no, the "I use Firefox exclusively" [or browser-of-the-day du-jour] is not an excuse -- it's vulnerable to these things as well.) Make sure your virus software is up-to-date, and initiate a scan, right now, on your hard disk. I've seen where a virus/bot got past the "real-time scanning" ability of the virus software, but a user-initiated disk scan picked it up.

3. You have too many toolbars and add-ins installed in your browser. For example, it is a Bad Idea(tm) to have both the Google and Yahoo toolbars installed on your browser at the same time. They're competing for that same "search engine" API option slot in your browser. In the same vein, if you have more than one AntiVirus/AntiMalware toolbar installed in your browser -- both of them trying to simultaneously intercept and scan the web content -- it is also a Bad Idea(tm). Pick one, and uninstall the other.

4. Don't rule out a RAM or Video RAM problem. Sometimes memory problems are extremely elusive, and only discovered when some kind of stress is put on the system -- e.g. when the CPU is under a bit of duress trying to keep up with all the context switches. There are a number of hardware diagnostics programs out there; just type in "PC hardware diagnostics" into your favorite search engine and pick one.

5. Try a Registry scanner / repair tool. There are several good ones out there -- just google "Registry cleaner" and pick one. Many are paid/shareware, but worth the price. Once you see how badly congested/corrupted the Registry has become, you'll find yourself running this tool often -- especially as you visit websites that like to do the "oh, you don't have this product/add-in? Let me fix that, and install it for you..." (which, interestingly, results in the ol' multiple-toolbars-all-doing-the-same-job-and-stomping-on-each-other problem).

6. Last, but certainly not least -- make sure you have the latest operating system and browser updates. Just because you have Windows' "AutoUpdate" feature enabled, doesn't mean you always get the Recommended updates. You'll only get the Critical updates. You have to run Update yourself, by visiting Microsoft's Update site: http://update.microsoft.com/ <-- (if in doubt as to your AutoUpdate setting, just click this link).

Now, I assumed you're using Windows for this, but the same goes for other operating systems as well. (Yes, Mac included -- just because it has a Unix core, doesn't mean it's not vulnerable to viruses, bots, and malware -- especially through the browser. Apple's recent multiple blackeyes with huge vulnerabilities in Safari drives this point home.)

Although I do use Windows (I have to, in the corporate environment), I also have a rack of Sun Solaris servers at home, as well as a couple Linux boxes. All need the same TLC that I mentioned above.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
 
Hey sorry I did not have time to read the other posts except for the OPs. It sounds like you may need to install the latest drivers for your video card if you have not done so. Or you may need to download the latest update for the program that runs the stream. Just a shot in the dark.

If you have a Nvidia video card which is highly likely then go to Google and type in Nvidia drivers then its a point and click process if you can find out what video card you have.
 
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Oh boy, here we go -- let the Mac-vs-PC wars begin! :o

Just like justadub, my 20-something-year-old-gadget-geek days are long over. I'm just a sage old deep data center network backbone kind of guy now, and I try to stay away from the "can you fix my son's/daughter's PC?" issues as much as I can.

However, it does sound like the OP either:

1. Has too many things running at once, that are causing too much context-switching on the CPU. This is especially troublesome when you have too many kernel-level "ring 0" processes -- e.g. graphics device drivers -- running that are demanding "real time" attention from the CPU. Recommendation: when watching a live stream, close-down (and I mean Quit & Exit, not minimize to the Taskbar) other things that are graphics-intensive (e.g. if you have Windows Media Player running with that *&^%$#@! graphic kaleidoscope that bounces/behaves in tune with the music -- KILL IT!). If you have a webpage displaying (besides the one that is displaying the live stream itself) that has all these Java applets, animated graphics, etc. -- KILL IT! If you have any kind of PDA/SmartPhone "synchronizing" software (e.g. Palm HotSync) -- KILL IT!

2. You could have either virus, Trojan Horse, or viral adware/malware installed -- especially in the browser itself. (And no, the "I use Firefox exclusively" [or browser-of-the-day du-jour] is not an excuse -- it's vulnerable to these things as well.) Make sure your virus software is up-to-date, and initiate a scan, right now, on your hard disk. I've seen where a virus/bot got past the "real-time scanning" ability of the virus software, but a user-initiated disk scan picked it up.

3. You have too many toolbars and add-ins installed in your browser. For example, it is a Bad Idea(tm) to have both the Google and Yahoo toolbars installed on your browser at the same time. They're competing for that same "search engine" API option slot in your browser. In the same vein, if you have more than one AntiVirus/AntiMalware toolbar installed in your browser -- both of them trying to simultaneously intercept and scan the web content -- it is also a Bad Idea(tm). Pick one, and uninstall the other.

4. Don't rule out a RAM or Video RAM problem. Sometimes memory problems are extremely elusive, and only discovered when some kind of stress is put on the system -- e.g. when the CPU is under a bit of duress trying to keep up with all the context switches. There are a number of hardware diagnostics programs out there; just type in "PC hardware diagnostics" into your favorite search engine and pick one.

5. Try a Registry scanner / repair tool. There are several good ones out there -- just google "Registry cleaner" and pick one. Many are paid/shareware, but worth the price. Once you see how badly congested/corrupted the Registry has become, you'll find yourself running this tool often -- especially as you visit websites that like to do the "oh, you don't have this product/add-in? Let me fix that, and install it for you..." (which, interestingly, results in the ol' multiple-toolbars-all-doing-the-same-job-and-stomping-on-each-other problem).

6. Last, but certainly not least -- make sure you have the latest operating system and browser updates. Just because you have Windows' "AutoUpdate" feature enabled, doesn't mean you always get the Recommended updates. You'll only get the Critical updates. You have to run Update yourself, by visiting Microsoft's Update site: http://update.microsoft.com/ <-- (if in doubt as to your AutoUpdate setting, just click this link).

Now, I assumed you're using Windows for this, but the same goes for other operating systems as well. (Yes, Mac included -- just because it has a Unix core, doesn't mean it's not vulnerable to viruses, bots, and malware -- especially through the browser. Apple's recent multiple blackeyes with huge vulnerabilities in Safari drives this point home.)

Although I do use Windows (I have to, in the corporate environment), I also have a rack of Sun Solaris servers at home, as well as a couple Linux boxes. All need the same TLC that I mentioned above.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
The first OS I bought with my own money was DOS 3.0. It was a huge upgrade from my Sinclair (which was like a TRS-80 that connected to a TV - just a BASIC interpreter).

I've been through every Microsoft OS since. I don't know everything, but what I DO know is since I bought this Mac it's taken me out of the malware game like something fierce. Between stability, malware and ease-of-use--- I'll never buy another Microsoft OS again with my own $. With someone else's, sure :)
 
p4 so im guessing this comp is atleast 6 years old most likely more. I would just build a new one much easier than people think. Could save money by using your current case,fans,harddrive,& power supply. Newer programs and add ons take more to run than older computers can handle. JMO
 
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Macs are far from problem-free, but will be much closer to it for the technically illiterate, as the OP has confessed to be. For us geeks it's easy to get lost in the knowledge and forget it took time and effort to get where we are.

I'll stay out of this thread to avoid polluting it any further, you have enough answers to get you started and then some.
 
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