Best way to play these 3 balls?

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I had this set up just now and intended on drawing the cue ball back just a few inches, shooting the 8ball in the side and letting the cue ball drift down table and back up for the 9ball in the corner.

Instead, I accidentally stopped the cue ball and didn't have much angle. I shot the 8ball in the side with top left and went one rail across (flirting with a scratch) for the 9ball in the corner.

How would you play it?
 

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Hal said:
I had this set up just now and intended on drawing the cue ball back just a few inches, shooting the 7ball in the side and letting the cue ball drift down table and back up for the 9ball in the corner.

Instead, I accidentally stopped the cue ball and didn't have much angle. I shot the 7ball in the side with top left and went one rail across (flirting with a scratch) for the 9ball in the corner.

How would you play it?
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You mean you shot the 7ball first and then the 8ball in the side right? :D
 
7 in the corner, slight follow to keep it off the rail. Stun or slight follow 8 into near side, bank 9 into same pocket that 8 was holed.

Thats just me, I'm pretty confident in my single-rail banks.
 
It looks like I would draw the cue enough to slide up between the 2nd diamond and the nine. A soft cut of the eight into the corner will leave the cue up table to shoot the nine into the same corner as the seven.

I would NEVER play the eight into the side.
 
I'd shoot the 7 in the top right corner, with top and a bit of left, and try to spin the cue ball out for a straight in shot on the 8 in the lower right corner, or perhaps a bit of an angle on it to let me draw the cue ball uptable behind the 9. Then pot that sucker in the top right corner.
 
Hal said:
I had this set up just now and intended on drawing the cue ball back just a few inches, shooting the 7ball in the side and letting the cue ball drift down table and back up for the 9ball in the corner.

Instead, I accidentally stopped the cue ball and didn't have much angle. I shot the 7ball in the side with top left and went one rail across (flirting with a scratch) for the 9ball in the corner.

How would you play it?
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Depending on how tight the pockets are, I'd cheat the corner on the seven and play it with a little low left sliding the cueball up and off the rail between the 8 and the nine. Then play the 8 in the lower right hand corner. Based on your leave for the 8 you can either follow the cue one rail across the table or draw back.
 
I also prefer to see what little angle there is and move the cue ball to shoot the 8 in the bottom right corner.
Kelly
 
I'd try it the same way you tried it. It's touchy trying to get just the right angle on the 8, but being so close to straight in, there aren't any better options I see. Once I was straight in on the 8, though, I would have just followed it a touch and banked the 9 cross-side. From that angle into the side pocket, trying to force position seems like a riskier proposition than playing for the bank, especially since the 9 is sitting quite well for a bank shot.

If you left this for yourself, I guess this illustrates why you almost always want to play for an angle (in getting on the 7 in this case). If your opponent left this for you, he sold out. Isn't it funny how we have that double standard.

-Andrew
 
This is what I did: A bank shot never occured to me.
 

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The angle you are showing on the 7 is nearly straight in with a slight cut to the right. An inch either way and my answer might change.

If I can NOT play the 7 straight in (cuts to the right), I would play the cue ball (with top spin, a little left english) two rails trying to stay below the 8 so I can drift over easily for the 9 in the same pocket as the 7...as shown below. Kind of a one pocket out. I have about 3 feet of cloth to land on for the 8 and still have an easy position play for the 9.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2GVdT2HATp2IagG1PSIq2bVdT2bcQq1kSIq2kThL2kbai1kbHP1kRpx@

If I CAN play the 7 straight in, I would straight draw the cue ball one rail trying to stay below the 8 so I can drift over easily for the 9 in the same pocket as the 7...as shown below. Kind of a one pocket out. I have about 2 feet of cloth to land on for the 8 and still have an easy position play for the 9.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2GVdT2HATp2IagG1PSIq2bVdT2bcIo1kSIq2kTAP1kbgV1kQCy@

In the old days, I would have slammed the 7 and slid up towards the 9 for the 8...as shown below. This is bad because it would be hard to control the CB off the 7 (hitting the CB harder)...AND I would be crossing my position line on the 8 with only about 1 foot of cloth to land on before I get in trouble.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2GVdT2HATo2...cbKn1kSIq2kTYL2kbhi2kSoI2kSoI2lSgI2lBqe3lXcf@

Simlar to the last shot would be to let the CB drift across the top of the 8, but I don't like that. One, you could scratch in the side. Two, you are forcing yourself to go at least two rails for the 9 off the 8.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2GVMR2HATo2...kSIq2kTQK2kbRV1kJXj1lJPk1lBad1lREl1lbYb3lSXg@
 
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I think the problem with trying to play the 8 in the upper or lower right hand corner is that you're coming "across" the angle and risk ending up on the 50 yard line.
 
Hal said:
I think the problem with trying to play the 8 in the upper or lower right hand corner is that you're coming "across" the angle and risk ending up on the 50 yard line.
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There are rails to stop the cue for you. The eight you played in the side is a shot that you have to try and force... You could have cue it in the corner (low right maybe?) almost effortlessly and gotten under the nine to shoot it into the top-left corner, if you had to.

There is no bank here, guys...
 
depending on how straight in it was id have done like a few of the other posters said......draw/stun the cueball up table to shoot the 8 in the opposite corner from the 7........then depending on my shapes on the 8 id either draw the ball back up over the 9 or shoot with follow off the opposite long rail to get shapes back over the 9 in the corner. Although yeah it does look like an easy bank, i got more confidence in getting shapes for the corner.
 
seymore15074 said:
There are rails to stop the cue for you. The eight you played in the side is a shot that you have to try and force... You could have cue it in the corner (low right maybe?) almost effortlessly and gotten under the nine to shoot it into the top-left corner, if you had to.

There is no bank here, guys...
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I understand. But some of mosconiacs, as well as the last one I diagrammed, have the potential for doing this:

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2GVdT2HATp2IagG1PSIq2bVdT2bcIo1kSIq2kTIQ1kbIK1kRBv@
 
scottycoyote said:
depending on how straight in it was id have done like a few of the other posters said......draw/stun the cueball up table to shoot the 8 in the opposite corner from the 7........then depending on my shapes on the 8 id either draw the ball back up over the 9 or shoot with follow off the opposite long rail to get shapes back over the 9 in the corner. Although yeah it does look like an easy bank, i got more confidence in getting shapes for the corner.
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Great play, in my mind it's THE play... Any more straight in on the 7 and I'd be drawing it straight back and putting both the 7 and 8 in the same corner...
 
seymore15074 said:
Unfortunately, I can't view anything like this..it's blocked. I'm at work, could you post an image? :(
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Sure. Here it is:
 

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