stolz2 said:
I heard one way people used to decide how if people thought they had the nuts or not when gambling is. Lets say someone comes in with 1,000 and wants to gamble but only wants to bet 100-200 a set or game, then they came to lose.
Now if they came with the same 1,000 but want to bet $500 a set or game, then they came to win. I assume because there betting next to all there bank roll.
Any one have any thoughts or a better understanding on looking at how much someone bets, and then and deciding if they really came to win or lose. This sounds dumb because who comes to gamble and lose. Just something a old timer was telling me on how Mcready and some other big gamblers used to determine if a gambler came to win or lose. Seems to me that there are too many varibles. But just wanted to get some ideas.
Mack
Your question assumes information that you normally don't have, like, the guy comes in with a 1,000. Players/gamblers normally don't show the bankroll upon entering the poolhall. The more likely match up scenario is two guys come into the room, each has money, neither knows the amount the other has, they don't know each others speed(never played each other), they both want to play for money and it can be assumed neither wishes to lose. How do these two people come to an agreement on where to start the action?
Now begins the negotiation(wolfing) where they make the arrangements for the game they are about to engage in and the one that set-ups the game to his advantage usually is going to end up the winner. Let's assume they both have the same amount of cash, one is a ten bulleter and the other is a two bulleter, and neither will budge. No game is the end result. The only way these two will end up playing is if both are flexible enough to play outside the comfort zone each established for themselves. The art of matching up good is finding the starting point of the game so you can actually play some pool...LOL
I fall on the side of ten bullets for matching up with strangers. The basics of ten bullets is: you take any game that falls in your ten bullet range. The ten bullets guide line will get you in action faster, more often, and it keeps you in the comfort zone where you play your best pool.
The guys that are two bulleters are either nuts, they are not playing on their own money, or they really don't want action they just want to wolf awhile because it gives them some strange ego kick. Being a ten bullet guy I don't waste my time with these types. I move on quickly. Why move on? Because I want a game of pool. I didn't come to talk smack. I came to play some pool and have some fun with my gambling money.
You mentioned to many variables and you are correct. If your trying to figure out the other guy your trying to find an unknown quanity. It is easier to just know yourself, stick to a slightly flexiable set of gambling rules, and take any game that falls in your bullet range. You will end up with more action, play a wider assortment of players, and gain more information about how to adjust the game once you have played awhile and have some idea of how to clock the game your in at the time.
Sorry for rambling on but I'm home alone today and I don't have anything else to do...LOL
I notice in your profile that you are a young 26. Try the ten bullets method of matching up and stay in action. How do I start with ten bullets you may ask? Before you leave home knowing your headed for the poolhall look at your money and determine what your willing to gamble. Divide that amount by ten, pack up your gear, fire up your rig, and walk into the p/room knowing your looking for action and that by following your simple set of rules you will more than likely find it and you'll probably find it with out all the bs woofing time. Keep in mind that your rules are set for strangers you've never played. With people you know something about or have played before you simply use what you know when matching up. If you are consistant you will gain a good reputation as a player who is good action. Also keep in mind that if you win your first match up your bullets have just gone up in value for the day. Who knows where it will end. It is up to you to determine when to start dragging the winnings. When you start to drag the winnings you are placing a high end limit on your bullets and you have found your comfort level.
You mentioned Keith, a legendary player. I'll bet all my bullets Keith can't remember the times he started playing under his personal bullet range and ended up with all the money in the room. Most of us won't ever take our games on the road and make a living playing with daddy's cue. Most of us will play our pool in our user-friendly little pool worlds. If you like to talk instead of chalk then don't set any gambling rules for yourself, and you will become a good talker. You will be one of the best 'railbirds' in the room and you can live your pool life vicariosly thru the actual players. I have nothing personal against the birds, they are a colorful part of any poolroom and a great source of humor, a good source of information, and they will get you stuff if you ask them nicely...LOL Don't discount what the birds are saying. They love the game, they have lots of pool knowledge, and they can't help themselves from share it. I always listen to the birds and try to keep them on my side. It is nice to play with someone cheering for you. After all, Someday I may loose my heart for playing and sit on the rail myself where I can contiue to enjoy the game of pool and root for those who 'get up and play'.
Before I quit rambling I would like suggest that every once in a while when you just can't get anyone to play for even your low end bullet range and you need action really bad. Divide you bullets by 20 or more and give up the nuts to some lamb killer and see if you can out run them nuts...it can be a blast to set your game on full choke and just blast away...LOL I'm done now. I have to start my beans and franks for my traditional Thanksgiving dinner...LOL I gotta hit some balls now...
