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>>Alessandro<<
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Hello,

Someone have an idea of the value on this beauty?

Thanks a lot for your help
 

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This is joe golds double vision point cue ebony and ivory, joint and butt cap ivory.Cues worth at about 6.000 to 8.000 thousand.Very classy cue,always liked that design. Rich aka the skunk.
 
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I had a Cog very similar but had purple heart accents as well . I sold it in 2008 for $3800 which was a couple hundred more than what I paid for it a year or so before. Not saying thats good or bad just my personal experience.

Ill look and see if I have pics
 
Today's cue market, put it on Ebay for immediate results, or the for sale section here, if you want to wait. For a nice CNC cue like this, I would say between 2 to 3 K.
 
Directly from Joe this cue is over $4000. It's a 6 rotation cue ( as opposed to his more normal 10 ) so I'm not sure if it's in the 5K range (cost from Joe)...

-CORRECTION-... I just noticed the extra silver work so this cue IS a little more than I thought from Joe. I'd guess in the $6500 area...
 
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Joes cues retail is so high and the secondary value is so low you lose a lot of money this cue secondary market is $3k range give or take
 
Fancy Cogs are a tough call in today's market. I would value at right around $3,500.
 
Fancy Cogs are a tough call in today's market. I would value at right around $3,500.


Because of today's market AND the "uneducated" buyer, Joe is probably the most undervalued maker today... His work is top tier and always has been.
 
Because of today's market AND the "uneducated" buyer, Joe is probably the most undervalued maker today... His work is top tier and always has been.

That's an interesting perspective. I have always thought the secondary market on Cogs was soft due to most buyers/collectors favoring more traditionally designed cues.

There is no doubt the work is top tier. I just took a plain cue in on trade and it plays fantastic.
 
Very interesting

Because of today's market AND the "uneducated" buyer, Joe is probably the most undervalued maker today... His work is top tier and always has been.

It is interesting because you call Joe on this cue and he tells ya $8-10k

Secondary value is a huge loss

But the work is good, but is it Black Boar , Manzino, etc $8-10k good?
 
It is interesting because you call Joe on this cue and he tells ya $8-10k

Secondary value is a huge loss

But the work is good, but is it Black Boar , Manzino, etc $8-10k good?

YES. It's up there with ANYBODY. Joe chooses to do the work he does. There is no one who can do it better. If he chose to do the work like Tony or Bob he could and do it every bit as well. As for his prices they are not out of line for those who know every aspect of his build.
 
YES. It's up there with ANYBODY. Joe chooses to do the work he does. There is no one who can do it better. If he chose to do the work like Tony or Bob he could and do it every bit as well. As for his prices they are not out of line for those who know every aspect of his build.

I guess I like the others who think that this is $2-3K cue. I see the stuff that Tony and Bob do and think it is a world of difference. I have seen this same design numerous times and it appears to me pretty simple CNC cue and insert of an very simple inlay.

I have played with Joes cues that played incredible and others that played like a log. They always seemed to be a tougher sell for me.

It was my understanding the Joe's cues were in high demand in Asia and that drove the price up, and now they arent in such demand, but the prices have remained high.

If someone payed $6.5K for this cue, thats great. Let them sell it on secondary, and I think that shows the demand. Imagine a Barry, Searing, BB, Manzino on secondary and those go in heart beat.

JMO,

I wish you all the best of rolls,

Ken
 
I guess I like the others who think that this is $2-3K cue. I see the stuff that Tony and Bob do and think it is a world of difference. I have seen this same design numerous times and it appears to me pretty simple CNC cue and insert of an very simple inlay.

A lot of the stuff Tony and Bob do IS different than what Joe does. Many of those works also command more $ too. That doesn't deminish the desire for Joes work though. His cues have always looked exceptional in their own right. As for your pretty simple CNC comment well I'd guess many may think that "after" all the tedious design followed by labor intensive prep work that goes into every "simple" inlay is done. But they'd be mistaken...
 
The one that I had and let go was a fantastic player and quality of the build was top tier . I'm kinda sorry I let it go .
 
Wow I see Joey Gold Merry Widow cues sell all day like no for better than $1500.00 easy. A fancy cue like this one I do not see any reason it would be valued less than $5000.00. I have owned at least 5 of his cues and yes they are not the easiest to sell, but he does have a following.
 
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I don't know the value of this cue but to me it is the sharpest looking Cog. I have seen. It seems the 57.1/2 in cues take a hit in the secondary market and that's to bad because they really play solid.Beautiful cue.
 
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