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[erhino41]

Don't start shit with kids in the car! I don't have kids, but if I did, I think that their safety should be my number one priority. If my young nephew was in the car, for instance, there is no way I'd try to start a fight. Kids safety takes priority over pride.

That's the point were all trying to make. If I came home and told my wife that story she would go absolutely flip mode. On the other hand, i will relate an incident that happened seven years ago.

I was following my wife and infant daughter home on route 95. I was keeping a comfortable three car lengths behind her. As we were approaching the exit for 195, an SUV comes flying up the middle lane and cuts right in between us. Now this isn't enough to get me mad so I left it go. As we are exiting onto the on ramp for 195 the speed drops to 30mph. This guy attached himself to my wife's bumper and angrily rides his breaks the whole way along the ramp, clearly trying to buy her to go faster. This off ramp is narrow, winding, long and bordered by 20 fit embankments on both sides. It was November so it was icy s as well, any mistake on this portion of the road and you are going to be at the bottom of a twenty foot drop. This enraged me. To my wife's credit she held up very well in a very dangerous situation. When the finally came around to where it split into two lanes this guy flew around her almost clipping her bumper he was that close. I immediately followed and attached myself to his bumper. He brake checked me three times before exiting a half mile later. I followed of the ramp onto rt one. He got in the left straight lane,i got in the turn lane next to him and rolled down my window. I explained to him that it was my wife and infant daughter in the Van that he almost forced of the road and I asked him if he wanted to pull over and discuss it He replied like a scared like kid saying"you don't want to have a conversation with me" and sped off before he even finished the sentence.

Now this was enough at the time to satiate my anger and feed my need to assert myself. I had won! But at what cost? I was reckless and dangerous and I knew it. There was another passenger in his SUV,I was no better than him.i put another person's life at risk in order to make a point. Two wrongs do not make a right, and because someone else violates the sacred trust that we as drivers place in each others hands doesn't give you the right to also break that trust. It certainly doesn't make you more of a man.

 

[pt109]

That's the point were all trying to make. If I came home and told my wife that story she would go absolutely flip mode. On the other hand, i will relate an incident that happened seven years ago.

I was following my wife and infant daughter home on route 95. I was keeping a comfortable three car lengths behind her. As we were approaching the exit for 195, an SUV comes flying up the middle lane and cuts right in between us. Now this isn't enough to get me mad so I left it go. As we are exiting onto the on ramp for 195 the speed drops to 30mph. This guy attached himself to my wife's bumper and angrily rides his breaks the whole way along the ramp, clearly trying to buy her to go faster. This off ramp is narrow, winding, long and bordered by 20 fit embankments on both sides. It was November so it was icy s as well, any mistake on this portion of the road and you are going to be at the bottom of a twenty foot drop. This enraged me. To my wife's credit she held up very well in a very dangerous situation. When the finally came around to where it split into two lanes this guy flew around her almost clipping her bumper he was that close. I immediately followed and attached myself to his bumper. He brake checked me three times before exiting a half mile later. I followed of the ramp onto rt one. He got in the left straight lane,i got in the turn lane next to him and rolled down my window. I explained to him that it was my wife and infant daughter in the Van that he almost forced of the road and I asked him if he wanted to pull over and discuss it He replied like a scared like kid saying"you don't want to have a conversation with me" and sped off before he even finished the sentence.

Now this was enough at the time to satiate my anger and feed my need to assert myself. I had won! But at what cost? I was reckless and dangerous and I knew it. There was another passenger in his SUV,I was no better than him.i put another person's life at risk in order to make a point. Two wrongs do not make a right, and because someone else violates the sacred trust that we as drivers place in each others hands doesn't give you the right to also break that trust. It certainly doesn't make you more of a man.

I'm giving you big time creds for this....don't be too hard on yourself...
..you were sticking up for your family....and by making the guy more aware of the possible consequences of his actions....you made the roads a little safer in the future.

 

[erhino41]

I'm giving you big time creds for this....don't be too hard on yourself...
..you were sticking up for your family....and by making the guy more aware of the possible consequences of his actions....you made the roads a little safer in the future.

I feel both ways about it. I do think it was justified but could never live with myself had it gone awry. My duty to fellow drivers must supersede my own need to teach a lesson.

 

[barrymuch90]

I recently (10 months) had my first child a baby boy n I'm just like the end of knocked up when driving with him in the sense that I drive under the speed limit extremely cautiously n never would purposely collide with another vehicle with him in the car no matter what. I doubt the guy who said he braked so the tailgater hit him with his child in the car is being truthful because I could never put my child in harms.

I remember being around 10 years old driving with my female cousin and her father was driving behind us suddenly a car pulls up next to us basically cutting us off rolls his window down n starts screaming at her and I honestly don't know why. Sure enough here comes the Calvary her father pulls up next to the other car n yells that's my daughter ext ext n I remember seeing the guy go from enraged to terrified within minutes it was beautiful, he must of been having a bad day n was looking for an easy victim n whatever my cousin did as an inexperienced driver (she was about 17) was exactly the opportunity the man was looking for, little did he know her father was behind her witnessed the whole thing. Moral is don't attack an Italian mans child especially his little girl unless your ready to see the ugliest side he has.

 

[fastone371]

Anyone know how I can get a subscription?????

Thats gotta be one of the funniest replies I have ever seen!!!!!!
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[tucson9ball]

Wrong. If you rear end someone your the one getting charged.




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Not ALWAYS! But you better have a couple witnesses...just sayin

 

[wahcheck]

road rage is not easy to control

My $.02 on this sidetracked thread about road rage:

I have to admit I am sooooo weak, when it comes to controlling road rage.
I have, in the past, got out of my car with fists clenched ready to go at it.
I have flipped off and yelled obscenities, followed the other car to let him know how pissed I was, etc. Even when I was married with my horrified wife in the front seat with me, I once went nuts and chased some car, speeding down city streets. My God, I am so lucky I am still alive. Yes, people do carry guns in their cars, and in the heat of madness, (I like the word madness for its double meaning, in this case), will shoot you in your "manly" face.

In my old age these days, I do bite the bullet when I encounter crazies out on the road, and try with all my might to not react stupidly, but in any instance that endangers my family, then that would be the toughest test for me.

 

[j_zippel]

I apologize for getting this thread so off track a few days ago. All I said was "wrong" when it was said the guy in front is at fault. I can't believe things got derailed so bad since then, at the very least we we able to uncover a lurking tool who has obviously been banned before and looking to be banned once again.

But Like I said l, Following to close in the charge 99% of the time.. Haha


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[Poolplaya9]

Not ALWAYS! But you better have a couple witnesses...just sayin

The witnesses just help to establish that he is also partially at fault for it being intentional. It doesn't take away your own responsibility though and you will still be partially responsible as well for failing to maintain a safe following distance. Hitting him is the proof that you failed to maintain a safe following distance. A safe following distance is essentially defined as enough distance that you can never rear end the person in front of you no matter what they do, or why. Rare exceptions to you still being partially at fault would be if they cut in front of you from another lane and immediately braked hard before you had a chance to create the safe following distance, or if the guy behind you rear ended you and pushed you into the guy in front of you who you would have not otherwise hit as examples.

 

[jasonlaus]

The witnesses just help to establish that he is also partially at fault for it being intentional. It doesn't take away your own responsibility though and you will still be partially responsible as well for failing to maintain a safe following distance. Hitting him is the proof that you failed to maintain a safe following distance. A safe following distance is essentially defined as enough distance that you can never rear end the person in front of you no matter what they do, or why. Rare exceptions to you still being partially at fault would be if they cut in front of you from another lane and immediately braked hard before you had a chance to create the safe following distance, or if the guy behind you rear ended you and pushed you into the guy in front of you who you would have not otherwise hit as examples.

That's not true, I had a car whip in front of me to "blend" when he saw a cop, and the cop pulled me over saying it was still my fault no matter what he did - and I was following too close.
I was like wtf can I do if somebody whips in front of me, he said slam on your brakes or you're following too close

 

[Drop The Rock]

That's not true, I had a car whip in front of me to "blend" when he saw a cop, and the cop pulled me over saying it was still my fault no matter what he did - and I was following too close.
I was like wtf can I do if somebody whips in front of me, he said slam on your brakes or you're following too close

That cop was a dumb ass. Being cut off and as a result, tailgating somebody is not your fault if its within a reasonable amount of time. In other words if he cuts you off and you run into him its his fault but that is almost the only case were the person doing the rear ending get leniency.

Can we kill this stupid derailed discussion now lol. Just because "truck" is in the title, doesn't mean its about driving. Someone is gonna think Ray rear ended Erica lol!

 

[Poolplaya9]

That's not true, I had a car whip in front of me to "blend" when he saw a cop, and the cop pulled me over saying it was still my fault no matter what he did - and I was following too close.
I was like wtf can I do if somebody whips in front of me, he said slam on your brakes or you're following too close

As I mentioned in previous posts, when someone pulls very close in front of you, it is your legal obligation to back off, and immediately. Immediately means just that, immediately. There is almost no circumstance where you can't at least start slowing, at least gradually, immediately within a second or two. If road and traffic conditions allow, you want to get back to the full safe following distance as quickly as is safe to do so by braking as hard as is safe to do, and it usually only takes literally a couple of seconds to get back to a full safe following distance.

Sometimes road conditions (wet or icy for example) or traffic conditions (someone very close behind you on your bumper in rush hour traffic for example) don't allow for you to get back to the full safe following distance within a couple of seconds, but they almost never prevent you from being able to at least start to very gradually slow immediately without hesitation or delay. Based on what the officer apparently witnessed, he felt that you that you either did not start to slow immediately when you could have (and even waiting three seconds would be too long if it wasn't necessary and it rarely is), or he felt that conditions allowed for you to brake much harder than you did so you could get to the full safe following distance much faster than you did, or both, and so he wrote you a ticket. As with speeding or anything else, some officers are more strict than others about how they enforce it, but it doesn't change what the law is.

 

[jasonlaus]

As I mentioned in previous posts, when someone pulls very close in front of you, it is your legal obligation to back off, and immediately. Immediately means just that, immediately. There is almost no circumstance where you can't at least start slowing, at least gradually, immediately within a second or two. If road and traffic conditions allow, you want to get back to the full safe following distance as quickly as is safe to do so by braking as hard as is safe to do, and it usually only takes literally a couple of seconds to get back to a full safe following distance.

Sometimes road conditions (wet or icy for example) or traffic conditions (someone very close behind you on your bumper in rush hour traffic for example) don't allow for you to get back to the full safe following distance within a couple of seconds, but they almost never prevent you from being able to at least start to very gradually slow immediately without hesitation or delay. Based on what the officer apparently witnessed, he felt that you that you either did not start to slow immediately when you could have (and even waiting three seconds would be too long if it wasn't necessary and it rarely is), or he felt that conditions allowed for you to brake much harder than you did so you could get to the full safe following distance much faster than you did, or both, and so he wrote you a ticket. As with speeding or anything else, some officers are more strict than others about how they enforce it, but it doesn't change what the law is.

The problem is the guy was speeding ~ 20 over and he tried blaming me for that too. Previous poster was correct - cop was an idiot!

Enough of that though, where is cueenvy?

 

[pt109]

That cop was a dumb ass. Being cut off and as a result, tailgating somebody is not your fault if its within a reasonable amount of time. In other words if he cuts you off and you run into him its his fault but that is almost the only case were the person doing the rear ending get leniency.

Can we kill this stupid derailed discussion now lol. Just because "truck" is in the title, doesn't mean its about driving. Someone is gonna think Ray rear ended Erica lol!

I agree....back on track...Erica has a nagging suspicion that she's being followed.......

 

[warriorpoet62]

Ditto!!!

I can't understand "WHY" she would think it is ok to piggy back on a paid event done by "Big Truck" & "Buffalo Billiards" ???

I could go to the us open whip out my camera and start broadcasting for free what the customers are paying for is definitely an attack on the intellectual property rights of the event and the performers.

The owner of Buffalo billiards should be aware of the conflict regarding the intellectual property rights issue and mediate the situation, if he/she gave permission to crazy erica to broadcast at the same time big trucks broadcast is running???

Following big truck from event to event and popping out your camera is not a winning formula. He cultivated these relationships and built up the events. To be a johnny come lately and mess with his business is highly unethical!

Go out Mrs. Erica and build your own tournaments and business, using your free broadcast model! I am certain Big truck was alot more eloquant and professional when he addressed you about his concerns and feelings on the matter and based on the ruckus. You refused!

Just my 2 cents

KD

Just for the record, this has nothing to do with intellectual property rights.


And as for the guy who made the tailgating analogy, you guys really need to study the law before attempting to quote it.

just saying...

 

[Dave-Kat]

'Interstate Tales' gone wild

Just remember 'NO STUPID TRICKS OR HAND GESTURES' these days because many are packing and you or your loved ones might catch one in the head. Better smart than dead.

Now, back to the OP. Any new news or are we finished with this tale of two streamers ?

Best rolls,

-Kat,

 

[Johnnyt]

Just remember 'NO STUPID TRICKS OR HAND GESTURES' these days because many are packing and you or your loved ones might catch one in the head. Better smart than dead.

Now, back to the OP. Any new news or are we finished with this tale of two streamers ?

Best rolls,

-Kat,

I agree. Most are stressed out and carrying. Johnnyt

 

[tucson9ball]

The witnesses just help to establish that he is also partially at fault for it being intentional. It doesn't take away your own responsibility though and you will still be partially responsible as well for failing to maintain a safe following distance. Hitting him is the proof that you failed to maintain a safe following distance. A safe following distance is essentially defined as enough distance that you can never rear end the person in front of you no matter what they do, or why. Rare exceptions to you still being partially at fault would be if they cut in front of you from another lane and immediately braked hard before you had a chance to create the safe following distance, or if the guy behind you rear ended you and pushed you into the guy in front of you who you would have not otherwise hit as examples.

When a car just enters the roadway, going very slow, what is the safe following distance for cars already on that road going 45MPH? There are circumstances that make the lead car at fault.....I will agree that they are rare, but they do happen.

 

[Poolplaya9]

When a car just enters the roadway, going very slow, what is the safe following distance for cars already on that road going 45MPH? There are circumstances that make the lead car at fault.....I will agree that they are rare, but they do happen.

I have said there are some relatively rare exceptions several times in this thread already and even gave examples several times including in the very post you quoted. Someone pulling close in front of you at a much slower speed or at any speed and immediately braking would be one of them, but only if you didn't yet have time to create a safe following distance (which usually only takes a few seconds) and couldn't avoid hitting them. Proving it can be a whole other issue though.