I have no influence on the software. And I would like to be able to download my fargo rate vs time.That is a great start! Now let me do that on the web site, and let me download results.
I have no influence on the software. And I would like to be able to download my fargo rate vs time.That is a great start! Now let me do that on the web site, and let me download results.
Yes. But the more interesting case is almost islands. A Presque-isle is an "almost island," a peninsula with a thin neck. And it becomes interesting not only what happens to the few players who leave but also the larger number who stay.How can you "solve" this island problem? If no one leaves the island, then still a problem. When players leave the island the problem is already solved.
Many leagues score matches with phone or tablet apps.Hey, i finally thought of one thing pool DIRELY needs: NO fkng phones near a pool table. If you can't turn off the damn for a couple hrs you need to find a new game or more likely a life.
So a couple of things first. I have noticed that my fargo moves when I have not played, which tells me there is some feedback based on my opponents future ratings change [performance]. Small but still present. My answer is based on what I think it should do.Yes. But the more interesting case is almost islands. A Presque-isle is an "almost island," a peninsula with a thin neck. And it becomes interesting not only what happens to the few players who leave but also the larger number who stay.
Here is a quiz.
In the scenario below,
(1) What happens to Bill's rating?
(2) What happens to the ratings of the other 29 NowhereVillians
(3) (optional extra points) How would your answers to (1) and (2) change if you were talking about an Elo rating approach, like FIDE, Glicko, or the various pool implementations
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Your intuition is right here. If Bill apparently seriously underperforms (375 instead of expected 575) when he moves to Phoenix, there is every reason to believe all those who play near Bill's speed back in Nowhereville also would perform near 375 if they played in Phoenix. And when those players move down to 375, everyone else in Nowhereville needs to move down a few hundred points to maintain the internal order. This is an extreme (fake) case of the kind of rebalancing that is happening on smaller scales every day.So a couple of things first. I have noticed that my fargo moves when I have not played, which tells me there is some feedback based on my opponents future ratings change [performance]. Small but still present. My answer is based on what I think it should do.
So my final answer is D. This is what should happen in my opinion. No way either C or A are the answer. B shouldn't happen either.
As for ELO, I have a USCF rating but have no specific knowledge of how it works. Very crude understanding at best.
I love these ideas. How does one determine what constitutes a safety, or a successful safety, or does it even matter?Do you think pool can be like basketball (or snooker) one day when many other features are tracked? For example safety success, shot success, positional play success just to name a few. Sure Fargorate is already quite good at predicting the outcome, but I at least would like to know more than just who wins
Improving the billiard community and billiard industry needs are two different things. The industry will always chase what’s profitable or has the potential to be. That’s usually dictated by the professional tours and it doesn’t necessarily mean it improves the game.
Take jump cues, for example. Or whatever racking gadget is paying a “fee” for commercial exposure. I’d argue they did nothing to improve the game and some including me would even say took the game backwards. I’m not 100% sure how they decide which table gets used on tours or tournaments, but I’d bet money it’s the same. If you’ve got deep pockets, it’s easy to get in even if the table is garbage.
Improving the community is a tougher challenge because there’s no real power behind the changes with hopes of catching on. One example that’s actually taken hold whether you like them or not is carbon fiber shafts. That’s the kind of shift that happens when enough players adopt something and it sticks, even without the industry pushing it from the top down.
And even then maybe carbon fiber shafts was an industry top down push because carbon fiber shafts are much less expensive to manufacture?
CF has become a popular choice for many sports including golf, tennis, auto racing and yes billiards, CF brings alot of advantages over wood and not all CF shafts are created equal, Becue spent years working on how their shafts and cues were made, they were the first company to build a completely carbon fiber cue, they didn't stop there, their latest shaft, the Prime II 12.0 is the best shaft I have ever owned, I am not anti wooden shafts, the best cue for you is the one that feels best in your hands, CF shafts don't have more power, your stroke is what produces that, what CF shafts do offer is consistency from shaft to shaft, at least with Becue they do, they also offer 3 different playing shafts that are engineered for 3 different types of feel, everyone doesn't like the same type of hit, I'm sure there are companies out there who are just filling CF tubes with foam and making a quick buck, Becue is not that company, like I said, not all CF shafts are created equal just like all wooden shafts are not either.View attachment 848224
Like I said earlier in the above post - The industry will always chase what’s profitable or has the potential to be. That’s usually dictated by the professional tours and it doesn’t necessarily mean it improves the game. I questioned if carbon fiber shafts took hold not because of wh the players wanted but what the industry wanted.
On the Joe Rogan podcast Fedor Gorst pretty much said just that. “The industry went to carbon fiber 4 or 5 years ago and maybe some companies were pushing the players you had to make a switch.”
It’s way less expensive to make carbon fiber shafts and the production cue companies don’t have to go out and chase good straight grain wood. For those of you that like carbon fiber shafts I’m not arguing or debating that they are better than wood shafts or not. My point is, for the industry, it is always a business decision first. I doubt what the players ever want is even a consideration. Margins drive everything for the companies that hold the real power in the pool world.
Sounds like how everything in the world works not just the pool world. We all think we have free will…
SSP, I hear you on CF and I’ve already said I’m not debating whether CF is better or worse than wood. I know a lot of players prefer it and I’m fine with that. If it feels right in your hands is all that always matters. I recognize CF probably wins is in longevity, not warping, ease of manufacturing. If Becue has a good product I’m sure it will catch on.CF has become a popular choice for many sports including golf, tennis, auto racing and yes billiards, CF brings alot of advantages over wood and not all CF shafts are created equal, Becue spent years working on how their shafts and cues were made, they were the first company to build a completely carbon fiber cue, they didn't stop there, their latest shaft, the Prime II 12.0 is the best shaft I have ever owned, I am not anti wooden shafts, the best cue for you is the one that feels best in your hands, CF shafts don't have more power, your stroke is what produces that, what CF shafts do offer is consistency from shaft to shaft, at least with Becue they do, they also offer 3 different playing shafts that are engineered for 3 different types of feel, everyone doesn't like the same type of hit, I'm sure there are companies out there who are just filling CF tubes with foam and making a quick buck, Becue is not that company, like I said, not all CF shafts are created equal just like all wooden shafts are not either.