Billiard woes in the Philippines...

gopi-1

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Billiards woes


Something's seriously wrong in the Philippine billiards scene.

After the formation of the Billiards Managers and Players Association of
the Philippines (BMPAP) early last February, many of the country's most
outstanding billiards players are not taking part in this year's inaugural
World 10-Ball Championship starting Sept. 29 at the PICC.

"It's sad to see great billiards players like former world champions like
Ronnie Alcano, Alex Pagulayan, Francisco "Django" Bustamante and Efren
"Bata" Reyes and world No.1 Dennis Orcullo missing from the tournament.
They'd done so much for us," said a diehard pool follower. "How will people
feel to watch the event played by foreign players when our own top players
are not participating?"

Held under the auspices of the Billiards and Snooker Congress of the
Philippines headed by president Ernesto Fajardo, the event will be
promoted by Raya Sports' Yen Macabenta, who is also BSCP chair.

Why did the country's top players shy away from the tournament?

The BMPAP players are reportedly very unhappy with the way their sport
is being handled by billiards officials. As a matter of fact, this group of
disgruntled players, representing a virtual cream of the crop, renounced
its membership with the BSCP and vowed not to take part in all events
organized and promoted by Macabenta.

Composed of professionals, the BMPAP subsequently registered with the
Games and Amusements Board, the ruling body for pro sports.

On the issue of the absence of the country's billiards icons from the
10-ball championship, Macabenta said, "It would be good if everybody
would take part."

Competing in the $400,000 10-ball event, which stakes a fat paycheck of
$100,000 for the champion, are reigning world 9-ball champion Daryl Peach
of Britain, Chinese-Taipei's Wu Chia-Ching and two familiar faces in the
local billiards scene: bald-headed Ralf Souquet of Germany and Johnny
Archer of the United States.

Spearheading the Philippine campaign are former Asian snooker titlist
Marlon Manalo, Doha Asian Games gold medalist Antonio Gabica and rising
star Jeffrey de Luna.

What caused the BSCP-BMPAP breakup?

The main reason why the BMPAP bolted the BSCP is the latter's alleged
abuse of power and lack of respect for BMPAP name players, notably
Pagulayan and Alcano. Another reason is the alleged refusal of
Macabenta's group to publicly account for the millions which he had
received from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) in
staging the 2006 and 2007 World Pool Championship here.

In the case of Pagulayan, the former world champ was suspended from
the Guinness Asian 9-Ball Tour without just cause. As a result, Pagulayan
filed a libel case against Macabenta and Fajardo.

On the other hand, Alcano was similarly treated with disrespect when he
was driven away from a qualifying tournament of the Guinness Asian 9-Ball
Tour. With Alcano at that time were Warren Kiamco and Lee Vann Corteza,
also both veteran internationalists.
 
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ad nauseum

gopi-1 said:
Billiards woes


Something's seriously wrong in the Philippine billiards scene.

After the formation of the Billiards Managers and Players Association of
the Philippines (BMPAP) early last February, many of the country's most
outstanding billiards players are not taking part in this year's inaugural
World 10-Ball Championship starting Sept. 29 at the PICC.

"It's sad to see great billiards players like former world champions like
Ronnie Alcano, Alex Pagulayan, Francisco "Django" Bustamante and Efren
"Bata" Reyes and world No.1 Dennis Orcullo missing from the tournament.
They'd done so much for us," said a diehard pool follower. "How will people
feel to watch the event played by foreign players when our own top players
are not participating?"

Held under the auspices of the Billiards and Snooker Congress of the
Philippines headed by president Ernesto Fajardo, the event will be
promoted by Raya Sports' Yen Macabenta, who is also BSCP chair.

Why did the country's top players shy away from the tournament?

The BMPAP players are reportedly very unhappy with the way their sport
is being handled by billiards officials. As a matter of fact, this group of
disgruntled players, representing a virtual cream of the crop, renounced
its membership with the BSCP and vowed not to take part in all events
organized and promoted by Macabenta.

Composed of professionals, the BMPAP subsequently registered with the
Games and Amusements Board, the ruling body for pro sports.

On the issue of the absence of the country's billiards icons from the
10-ball championship, Macabenta said, "It would be good if everybody
would take part."

Competing in the $400,000 10-ball event, which stakes a fat paycheck of
$100,000 for the champion, are reigning world 9-ball champion Daryl Peach
of Britain, Chinese-Taipei's Wu Chia-Ching and two familiar faces in the
local billiards scene: bald-headed Ralf Souquet of Germany and Johnny
Archer of the United States.

Spearheading the Philippine campaign are former Asian snooker titlist
Marlon Manalo, Doha Asian Games gold medalist Antonio Gabica and rising
star Jeffrey de Luna.

What caused the BSCP-BMPAP breakup?

The main reason why the BMPAP bolted the BSCP is the latter's alleged
abuse of power and lack of respect for BMPAP name players, notably
Pagulayan and Alcano. Another reason is the alleged refusal of
Macabenta's group to publicly account for the millions which he had
received from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) in
staging the 2006 and 2007 World Pool Championship here.

In the case of Pagulayan, the former world champ was suspended from
the Guinness Asian 9-Ball Tour without just cause. As a result, Pagulayan
filed a libel case against Macabenta and Fajardo.

On the other hand, Alcano was similarly treated with disrespect when he
was driven away from a qualifying tournament of the Guinness Asian 9-Ball
Tour. With Alcano at that time were Warren Kiamco and Lee Vann Corteza,
also both veteran internationalists.

all of these so-called issues have been answered ad nauseum

just drop it and move on

if there are court cases, let the courts decide.

anybody can go to the ombudsman, office of any fiscal and file complaints -- this doesn't make them true. just that they were filed and are still subject to preliminary investigation etc etc.

anybody can post in a forum like this or go to media, it still does not make what they're saying true.
 
gopi-1 said:
Billiards woes


Something's seriously wrong in the Philippine billiards scene.

After the formation of the Billiards Managers and Players Association of
the Philippines (BMPAP) early last February, many of the country's most
outstanding billiards players are not taking part in this year's inaugural
World 10-Ball Championship starting Sept. 29 at the PICC.

"It's sad to see great billiards players like former world champions like
Ronnie Alcano, Alex Pagulayan, Francisco "Django" Bustamante and Efren
"Bata" Reyes and world No.1 Dennis Orcullo missing from the tournament.
They'd done so much for us," said a diehard pool follower. "How will people
feel to watch the event played by foreign players when our own top players
are not participating?"

Held under the auspices of the Billiards and Snooker Congress of the
Philippines headed by president Ernesto Fajardo, the event will be
promoted by Raya Sports' Yen Macabenta, who is also BSCP chair.

Why did the country's top players shy away from the tournament?

The BMPAP players are reportedly very unhappy with the way their sport
is being handled by billiards officials. As a matter of fact, this group of
disgruntled players, representing a virtual cream of the crop, renounced
its membership with the BSCP and vowed not to take part in all events
organized and promoted by Macabenta.

Composed of professionals, the BMPAP subsequently registered with the
Games and Amusements Board, the ruling body for pro sports.

On the issue of the absence of the country's billiards icons from the
10-ball championship, Macabenta said, "It would be good if everybody
would take part."

Competing in the $400,000 10-ball event, which stakes a fat paycheck of
$100,000 for the champion, are reigning world 9-ball champion Daryl Peach
of Britain, Chinese-Taipei's Wu Chia-Ching and two familiar faces in the
local billiards scene: bald-headed Ralf Souquet of Germany and Johnny
Archer of the United States.

Spearheading the Philippine campaign are former Asian snooker titlist
Marlon Manalo, Doha Asian Games gold medalist Antonio Gabica and rising
star Jeffrey de Luna.

What caused the BSCP-BMPAP breakup?

The main reason why the BMPAP bolted the BSCP is the latter's alleged
abuse of power and lack of respect for BMPAP name players, notably
Pagulayan and Alcano. Another reason is the alleged refusal of
Macabenta's group to publicly account for the millions which he had
received from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) in
staging the 2006 and 2007 World Pool Championship here.

In the case of Pagulayan, the former world champ was suspended from
the Guinness Asian 9-Ball Tour without just cause. As a result, Pagulayan
filed a libel case against Macabenta and Fajardo.

On the other hand, Alcano was similarly treated with disrespect when he
was driven away from a qualifying tournament of the Guinness Asian 9-Ball
Tour. With Alcano at that time were Warren Kiamco and Lee Vann Corteza,
also both veteran internationalists.


This is much like when Earl Strickland couldn't play in the US Open for 5 years (5 of his best years). Who knows where the record would stand had that not occured!
 
I give the players credit for sticking together and having the balls not to play in the tournament. I have stayed out of all this as I have no idea who is right and who is wrong...but the players know I'm sure. Johnnyt
 
ASalvador said:
all of these so-called issues have been answered ad nauseum

just drop it and move on

if there are court cases, let the courts decide.

anybody can go to the ombudsman, office of any fiscal and file complaints -- this doesn't make them true. just that they were filed and are still subject to preliminary investigation etc etc.

anybody can post in a forum like this or go to media, it still does not make what they're saying true.

One truth that cannot be denied is that these very same players aren't present in your little show. No matter how you contest or twist the instances that lead to that it is still the reality that no one can deny. The media and the forums will magnify this reality!

What is a movie without the stars? Answer: A FLOP!
 
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When the players/workers stick together and won't make the product it has the biggest impact. Of course anyone that crosses the line to work must be dealt with swiftly. Yes I did a little work for the Machinists Union, the Teamsters and the Heavy Equipment Operators in the 1960's too:eek: Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
When the players/workers stick together and won't make the product it has the biggest impact. Of course anyone that crosses the line to work must be dealt with swiftly. Yes I did a little work for the Machinists Union, the Teamsters and the Heavy Equipment Operators in the 1960's too:eek: Johnnyt


The players had issues that needed to be addressed, yet aren't. Worse is that this "Management" dismisses those issues! Or they thought that they can string this out through the courts and life will just go on when they dangle the carrot.

What "issues" in case you still don't understand all the recent threads? Basically "fairness" and "respect". Fairness because all the players wanted was Qualifiers for country representation. Sure, they held one but what happened? They changed the rules in the middle of an on-going qualifier and showed the door to those who disagrees. And respect. They thought that they can just keep maltreating these players then dangle the money carrot and everything is forgotten. Really now?! Sometimes lessons are learned the hard way.

I'm sure that Johnnyt has seen this scenario before and how it ends up. Too bad these BSCP/RAYA partnership doesn't have his experience.
 
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bandido said:
One truth that cannot be denied is that these very same players aren't present in your little show. No matter how you contest or twist the instances that lead to that it is still the reality that no one can deny. The media and the forums will magnify this reality!

What is a movie without the stars? Answer: A FLOP!

Hhhmm... I thought that title was WTBC. :wink:
 
Three days to go (Manila time) before the tournament starts, is there any sightings of a foreign player yet?
 
are you the author of this piece?

gopi-1 said:
Billiards woes


Something's seriously wrong in the Philippine billiards scene.

After the formation of the Billiards Managers and Players Association of
the Philippines (BMPAP) early last February, many of the country's most
outstanding billiards players are not taking part in this year's inaugural
World 10-Ball Championship starting Sept. 29 at the PICC....

gopi-1, are you the author of this piece?
 
didn't know about this

Fleece3 said:
This is much like when Earl Strickland couldn't play in the US Open for 5 years (5 of his best years). Who knows where the record would stand had that not occured!

Why did this happen? Was he suspended? This is the first I've heard of it.....Please explain........
 
Johnnyt said:
I give the players credit for sticking together and having the balls not to play in the tournament. I have stayed out of all this as I have no idea who is right and who is wrong...but the players know I'm sure. Johnnyt


the players' actions reflects the players' sentiments.
 
ASalvador said:
gopi-1, are you the author of this piece?


sheesh, considering this guy is part of BSCP/RAYA, they suppose to and must know everything about Philippine Pool...

how can you really care about Philippine Pool if you don't even know what the media is writing about?

i guess too busy scrambling and gathering fund for WTBC?

anyway the first post was a copy of an article by Filipino Journalist who write for Phil. Daily Inquirer, a major broadsheet in Manila. FYI to all.

here's the link
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080922-162102/Billiards-woes
 
ASalvador said:
gopi-1, are you the author of this piece?
Getting petty to divert the issue? So he failed to write down the author's name. Here gopi-1, cut and paste this onto your post.

Billiards woes


By Manolo Inigo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:14:00 09/22/2008


Something's seriously wrong in the Philippine billiards scene.
 
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well, things aren't pretty good with the current leadership (as i see it and what more proof do i need as the living legend himself and his partner django feels so) i just hope everything will be settled soon and eventually players' interest would be given outmost priority than personal gains. :cool:
 
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