Billiards in a honduras prison

Some rules of the game:


The balls are set up as shown, (see the video, click here) one ball on foot spot, and the rest in ascending order placed frozen at the diamonds, as shown. Each ball is worth its number in points (15 ball worth 15 points, 3 ball worth 3, etc). Sixty one points wins the game, or highest score if more than two are playing. There is no safety play. If you miss your ball, that value is deducted from your score. If you hit the wrong ball, that value is deducted. If a scratch in the pocket, then must shoot forward from the headstring (as in straight pool). If table scratch, then leave cue ball in position (deducting points as mentioned).

The opening shot on the one-ball is a soft spot shot, with the cue ball gently dislodging the 3-ball, which, after sinking the 2-ball, allows a draw off the 3 into the 5, and leaving position on the 4. The 5 can then go into the side, or far corner(s) and get position on the 6. The game tests all your skills, especially banks, multi-rail positioning, nudging balls, etc. The 7 ball is almost always banked, one way or the other. It's rare to play the 7-8-9 combination, but can be done. Once you get past the 9, position on the 10, 11, and 12 are relatively straightforward because the opposite rail is now clear. Trouble comes again with the 13, 14, and 15. One strategy is to try to dislodge the 15 when playing the 2 ball (or when playing the 4-ball, as shown), so that the 13/14 combo can be played, otherwise it's back to banking one or more of the remaining balls.

If you see anyone run this table, you'll have a serious game on your hands!
 
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FastMikie said:
Some rules of the game:


The balls are set up as shown, (see the video, click here) one ball on foot spot, and the rest in ascending order placed frozen at the diamonds, as shown. Each ball is worth its number in points (15 ball worth 15 points, 3 ball worth 3, etc). Sixty one points wins the game, or highest score if more than two are playing. There is no safety play. If you miss your ball, that value is deducted from your score. If you hit the wrong ball, that value is deducted. If a scratch in the pocket, then must shoot forward from the headstring (as in straight pool). If table scratch, then leave cue ball in position (deducting points as mentioned).

The opening shot on the one-ball is a soft spot shot, with the cue ball gently dislodging the 3-ball, which, after sinking the 2-ball, allows a draw off the 3 into the 5, and leaving position on the 4. The 5 can then go into the side, or far corner(s) and get position on the 6. The game tests all your skills, especially banks, multi-rail positioning, nudging balls, etc. The 7 ball is almost always banked, one way or the other. It's rare to play the 7-8-9 combination, but can be done. Once you get past the 9, position on the 10, 11, and 12 are relatively straightforward because the opposite rail is now clear. Trouble comes again with the 13, 14, and 15. One strategy is to try to dislodge the 15 when playing the 2 ball (or when playing the 4-ball, as shown), so that the 13/14 combo can be played, otherwise it's back to banking one or more of the remaining balls.

If you see anyone run this table, you'll have a serious game on your hands!

In case anyone missed it in my post about visiting Mike a few weeks ago. I played some of this game with him. My first time trying it. He beat me 7-4! I want a rematch!
 
One of my teammates learned to shoot pool in Prison, and he is very good. One of the better players in my hometown also learned to play in Prison.
 
FastMikie said:
My instructor, Tony Sorto, is from Honduras, and he showed me the game.
Here's a video which shows me running through the 9 ball.
I have yet to clear the table, but I have seen Tony do it.

Here's the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PI7Kapg8Gw

Enjoy!

I play something very similar as a drill all balls must be cut along the rail no banks no combos though in my drill all moved balls are spotted back to their diamond. this game looks cool... I'll have to try it
 
I first thought it was 'Ladder' by Bert Kinister. Really difficult exercise...not allowed to touch the other balls at all in the process.... I enjoy it!
 
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My question is, how did you get inside the prison and take photos in the first place? Are they just not as security-conscious down there?
 
Brian said:
Clearly there is no corruption in the Honduran prison system.

I've lived in Central America. Third world governments are typically more corrupt than you can imagine, and their prison systems are probably the worst. Honduras is no exception.

If you think that prison looks like easy time, try it. If you think those people on the streets are happy, try living like that. They'd do anything (and many do) to be in your shoes.

pj
chgo
 
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ScottW said:
My question is, how did you get inside the prison and take photos in the first place? Are they just not as security-conscious down there?
I was allowed by the hondouran gov. because i have a missionary pass. and was let in to preach . they let me take my camera not my phone.and the people really struggle in there! the guy dressed up playing pool was one of the gang leaders and every thing sold in his territory he gets a cut of and they make things like hammocks from scratch and hes has guards take them out and sell them here is the startof the hammocks as thread and they spin this wheel and make one thread , and it takes thousands to mak one hammock!
 

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and then they take the cords and hand weave them with a stick (very crude, but beautiful work when complete
 

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Patrick Johnson said:
I've lived in Central America. Third world governments are typically more corrupt than you can imagine, and their prison systems are probably the worst. Honduras is no exception.

If you think that prison looks like easy time, try it. If you think those people on the streets are happy, try living like that. They'd do anything (and many do) to be in your shoes.

pj
chgo
I was being sarcastic because I have zero tolerance for corruption. I'll leave the trying prison and living like that to you.Let me know how it works out.
 
Brian said:
I was being sarcastic because I have zero tolerance for corruption. I'll leave the trying prison and living like that to you.Let me know how it works out.
you guys are a hoot!!
 
FastMikie said:
My instructor, Tony Sorto, is from Honduras, and he showed me the game.
Here's a video which shows me running through the 9 ball.
I have yet to clear the table, but I have seen Tony do it.

Here's the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PI7Kapg8Gw

Enjoy!
At the end of your vid is that the view you have out your window?...if so I envy you. Reminds me of Vegas sunsets...
 
Craig Fales said:
At the end of your vid is that the view you have out your window?...if so I envy you. Reminds me of Vegas sunsets...


Yes, that's the view, but on a very good day. That was January 1, 2008. Spectacular! Most days are a bit less interesting than that one. Today is kinda gray. But even on days like today, I can still hear the sounds of the surf, late in the evening, between the sounds of the balls going into the pockets...

:smile:
 
FastMikie said:
Yes, that's the view, but on a very good day. That was January 1, 2008. Spectacular! Most days are a bit less interesting than that one. Today is kinda gray. But even on days like today, I can still hear the sounds of the surf, late in the evening, between the sounds of the balls going into the pockets...

:smile:
Do you have a spare bedroom? LOLz
 
FastMikie said:
Sorry, no spare bedroom, but I do have a hammock (made in Honduras, coincidentally) on the balcony.

FastMikie's Fun House is kinda small. 1300 s.f. condo. the spare bedroom is an office now. Check this link for some photos of the place: http://www.michaelmccafferty.com/MFH4.htm

Enjoy...
Excellent website...*sigh* I guess the hammock will have to do...:D
 
From what I understand, we all owe a great debt to having billiard tables in prison!

Captain Mingaud, as the legend goes, was a political prisoner in France in the early 1800s and got the crazy idea of putting a piece of leather on the end of his cue. He supposedly stayed beyond his official release in order to perfect his newly-discovered ball-spinning technique (and the extreme shots that it made possible) before taking it on the road all over Europe. People thought he was possessed by the devil and such as they'd never seen such cue ball action before. Billiards has never been the same since! :)

Robert

p.s. Down here in South Florida, that rotation variation with the balls frozen to the cushions is called Cuban Chicago. The lowest numbered balls aren't bothered with, so it would seem to be slightly different than the Honduran version.
 
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FastMikie said:
Sorry, no spare bedroom, but I do have a hammock (made in Honduras, coincidentally) on the balcony.

FastMikie's Fun House is kinda small. 1300 s.f. condo. the spare bedroom is an office now. Check this link for some photos of the place: http://www.michaelmccafferty.com/MFH4.htm

Enjoy...

hi mikie,

i DID, enjoy that is. what a wonderful and unique experience viewing it!!

thanks,
smokey
 
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