Blind race

HawaiianEye

HawaiianEye

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I've often wondered how players would PLAY if they DIDN'T KNOW what game they were on in a race or "WHAT" their opponent did during their last shot.

For example...race to 7:

You break and do whatever...you are then "isolated" and have "no knowledge" of what happened until it is YOUR turn at the table again. If/when you miss or play a safety, you are isolated again until it is back to you.

Would a player play more "offensively" or more "defensively" if they didn't know if they were ONE shot behind or five racks behind?

This would FORCE the player to play as though EVERY SHOT was their LAST shot of the game.

Of course time may give the players an "idea" of what materialized during their absence from the table, but they would have NO assurity that they were correct in their assumption.
 
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Huh? Why would one want to not use every advantage available?
Playing the score is a significant part of the game, IMO.
 
I don't understand. How could I not know the game score? If I pocket the 10-ball I know I won a game. If I didn't, I know my opponent won.

I guess my opponent could run a 3-pack without me knowing it since I'd not have been at the table...but that's unlikely with the guys I play against :wink:
 
bdorman said:
I don't understand. How could I not know the game score? If I pocket the 10-ball I know I won a game. If I didn't, I know my opponent won.

I guess my opponent could run a 3-pack without me knowing it since I'd not have been at the table...but that's unlikely with the guys I play against :wink:
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That is the whole point. You would ONLY know what YOU did.

If you broke and DIDN'T make a ball and then were isolated and came back to 9 balls on the table...do you assume it is the SAME game?

How about if you weren't called back into the room for 10-20 minutes? Would you STILL assume it was the SAME game?

Would you play "differently" if you DIDN'T know your opponent also? How about if there are 50 players in the tournament and 10 of them are ELITE world-class players and you DIDN'T know which player you were playing against in any given match.

Do you play "looser" when YOU KNOW you have won 5 or 6 games and your opponent has only won 1 or maybe none?

In this game you would ONLY know when YOU have won 7 games. You WOULDN'T even know if you were still playing the SAME set with the SAME opponent after a while. You wouldn't know if you were BEHIND or AHEAD after a while until the tournament was OVER.

I'm not thinking of this as a great spectator sport, I'm thinking of this in the psychological sense as to how it would affect the players' games and choices of shots, if any.
 
If you break dry and come back with 9 balls on the table it'll be pretty easy to know if it's the same game or different.
 
BeiberLvr said:
If you break dry and come back with 9 balls on the table it'll be pretty easy to know if it's the same game or different.
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If you break dry and come back to the table with 9 balls in the same, or similar, layout you can probably assume it may be the same game.

How about you come back 30 minutes later and there are 3 balls left on the table in a different layout?

Are you still in the SAME game or is your opponent 1 or more games ahead? What if you are playing Biado and don't know it and by the time you get back to the table he has already ran a 7-pack on you? When you are back to the table now, you may be in the FIRST game of the second match playing a DIFFERENT person. The ONLY thing you know is you broke and 30 minutes have passed.
 
HawaiianEye said:
If you break dry and come back to the table with 9 balls in the same, or similar, layout you can probably assume it may be the same game.

How about you come back 30 minutes later and there are 3 balls left on the table in a different layout?

Are you still in the SAME game or is your opponent 1 or more games ahead? What if you are playing Biado and don't know it and by the time you get back to the table he has already ran a 7-pack on you? When you are back to the table now, you may be in the FIRST game of the second match playing a DIFFERENT person. The ONLY thing you know is you broke and 30 minutes have passed.
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If I come back to the table after 30 minutes, I'm just going to make a very safe assumption that it's not the same game.
 
BeiberLvr said:
If I come back to the table after 30 minutes, I'm just going to make a very safe assumption that it's not the same game.
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LMAO. Playing some of the people I play with, this ISN'T a SAFE bet. As a matter of fact, you may come back 2 hours later and it isSTILL the SAME game...even if the balls are rearranged. :)

If you are playing Earl and come back 30 minutes later, he may have ran 14 racks and be taking a smoke break.
 
Another scenario might be drawing blind a number for the games you have to win and your opponent drawing blind the number they have to win. Could work out you need to win 5 games before your opponent has to win 9 games. You wouldn't know how many games your opponent has to win or vice versa UNTIL someone reaches their hidden number first and you actually notify each other......
 
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