Blue Diamond chalk-need advice

[tatcat2000]

Another believer...

In only my second non-rules related post ever...

I picked up four boxes on eBay at a steal of a price or I might have waited even longer to try it. Used it last night for the first time - just dove right in.

After one match - :clapping::happydance::smile2:

'Nuff said.

Buddy

 

[JoeyA]

I just purchased some a week or so ago and I hesitate to say this but the entire time I used it, I never miscued once. lol I don't know it it was because I paid more attention to chalking since I carried the chalk with me in my Little Joey Pouch. It was always available and I used it on virtually every shot.

I lost one piece after leaving it on the table. The second piece was used regularly and is about half spent.

I don't know about the Blue Diamond chalk others have used but mine is a dark blue, much darker than Master chalk and it seems to get all over min chalking hand. It's at least 50% more messy.

I could be wrong but it appears to provide "some" additional coverage and protection against miscueing.

At the rate I use and lose chalk, I would probably keep the whole case. :embarrassed2: I gave away a couple of pieces too.


JoeyA

 

[Cuebuddy]

I just purchased some a week or so ago and I hesitate to say this but the entire time I used it, I never miscued once. lol I don't know it it was because I paid more attention to chalking since I carried the chalk with me in my Little Joey Pouch. It was always available and I used it on virtually every shot.

I lost one piece after leaving it on the table. The second piece was used regularly and is about half spent.

I don't know about the Blue Diamond chalk others have used but mine is a dark blue, much darker than Master chalk and it seems to get all over min chalking hand. It's at least 50% more messy.

I could be wrong but it appears to provide "some" additional coverage and protection against miscueing.

At the rate I use and lose chalk, I would probably keep the whole case. :embarrassed2: I gave away a couple of pieces too.


JoeyA

Good for you Joey. I have heard that maybe this chalk is made by Masters possibly the same recipe/ different label? After I tried it I believe there is a difference. I did measure masters and BD and they were with in .004 of an inch of each other. For the few AZers that don't use a micrometer that is the thickness of a piece of paper.

 

[Paul Mon]

I bought

Just bought two cubes at Amazon for $9.56 shipped. You guys really ought to be in sales.

Thanks to all, maybe??

Paul

 

[saddlebow]

get the lead out?

Someone once suggested that the reason that BD, which is made in the US, is actually "imported" from Italy to the US is that it has a much higher level of lead, and has been outlawed in the US in many applications like house paint. So the theory goes that they quit selling it in the US that's also why Master chalk went south a while back when they reduced/removed the lead and made the chalk not so sticky and smooth as the BD. I found this on the "Billiards, its history and influence" web site:
The Arizona Department of Health Services has warned that at least two brands of green pool-cue chalk available in Arizona Ä Master and Pioneer Ä have been found to contain dangerously high levels of lead. Although infants and children are at greatest risk, chronic lead exposure can cause swelling of brain tissue, fatigue, headaches, irritability and kidney effects. Large exposures can even result in death. The ADHS, in coordination with Samaritan Regional Poison Center, tested 18 brands of billiard chalk at a laboratory in Golden, Colo. after pool cue chalk was found to have played a role in the lead poisoning of a two-year-old Phoenix boy. Master green chalk, made in Chicago, tested as high as 8,000 parts per million of lead, and Pioneer green chalk, made in Taipei, Taiwan, exceeded 7,000 ppm. By comparison, lead-based paint, which was discontinued for use in housing in 1978, has a standard lead content of 5,000 ppm. Cheryl Carpenter, a certified poison information specialist, said 40 micrograms per deciliter of blood is considered a toxic level of lead for an adult. That is twice the toxic level for children. Carpenter said the danger for adults is not substantial and is not an issue for an adult who plays pool occasionally. "I'd be concerned about (people who manufacture the chalk), or pool hall employees dealing with it constantly," she said. Other brands tested in the Samaritan study were found to contain either no lead or very insignificant traces of lead. Those include Imperial and National Tournament brands of green chalk, Superior, Triangle and National Tournament brands of orange chalk and all brands of blue chalk tested.

If you google "pool cue chalk lead poisoning" you'll find several articles in medical journals detailing cases of poisoning from pool or snooker chalk, and test results as well. Never seen an "official" ruling that says lead is the reason, but knowing how lawsuit averse american manufacturers have to be, it seems to make sense.... just sayin'.........

 

[JoeyA]

Just bought two cubes at Amazon for $9.56 shipped. You guys really ought to be in sales.

Thanks to all, maybe??

Paul

Let us know what your findings are Paul. But keep an eye on the chalk as it can disappear pretty quickly. :wink:

JoeyA

 

[JoeyA]

Someone once suggested that the reason that BD, which is made in the US, is actually "imported" from Italy to the US is that it has a much higher level of lead, and has been outlawed in the US in many applications like house paint. So the theory goes that they quit selling it in the US that's also why Master chalk went south a while back when they reduced/removed the lead and made the chalk not so sticky and smooth as the BD. I found this on the "Billiards, its history and influence" web site:
The Arizona Department of Health Services has warned that at least two brands of green pool-cue chalk available in Arizona Ä Master and Pioneer Ä have been found to contain dangerously high levels of lead. Although infants and children are at greatest risk, chronic lead exposure can cause swelling of brain tissue, fatigue, headaches, irritability and kidney effects. Large exposures can even result in death. The ADHS, in coordination with Samaritan Regional Poison Center, tested 18 brands of billiard chalk at a laboratory in Golden, Colo. after pool cue chalk was found to have played a role in the lead poisoning of a two-year-old Phoenix boy. Master green chalk, made in Chicago, tested as high as 8,000 parts per million of lead, and Pioneer green chalk, made in Taipei, Taiwan, exceeded 7,000 ppm. By comparison, lead-based paint, which was discontinued for use in housing in 1978, has a standard lead content of 5,000 ppm. Cheryl Carpenter, a certified poison information specialist, said 40 micrograms per deciliter of blood is considered a toxic level of lead for an adult. That is twice the toxic level for children. Carpenter said the danger for adults is not substantial and is not an issue for an adult who plays pool occasionally. "I'd be concerned about (people who manufacture the chalk), or pool hall employees dealing with it constantly," she said. Other brands tested in the Samaritan study were found to contain either no lead or very insignificant traces of lead. Those include Imperial and National Tournament brands of green chalk, Superior, Triangle and National Tournament brands of orange chalk and all brands of blue chalk tested.

If you google "pool cue chalk lead poisoning" you'll find several articles in medical journals detailing cases of poisoning from pool or snooker chalk, and test results as well. Never seen an "official" ruling that says lead is the reason, but knowing how lawsuit averse american manufacturers have to be, it seems to make sense.... just sayin'.........

The irritability symptoms and the brain-swelling has been seen in some of today's pool players. I think we may need to run some tests for lead poisoning for those showing these symptoms.

JoeyA

 

[HollyWood]

buy some best advise from me- or not

It's like all the rest of pool equipment- you can by the good stuff or the cheap shit. We buy thousands of dollars of cues-seriously now why would you cheat on the Price of chalk. I wish no- buddy said a word. I like having advantages. And If you don't think blue diamond or magic chalk is not, so be it. I shoot plenty of 1 handed shots just messing around- an both of these chalks are the real deal. mark

 

[JimS]

The irritability symptoms and the brain-swelling has been seen in some of today's pool players. I think we may need to run some tests for lead poisoning for those showing these symptoms.

JoeyA

:rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1::groucho: :groucho: :groucho:

One needs to learn to keep ones fingers out of ones mouth.

But seriously... that does explain a lot of what we see from time to time. A tell-tale symptom is a blue tongue and lips.

I carry/use mine in a Euro chalk holder and when it gets close to the paper I cut the paper down and put a quarter or two in the bottom of the holder. I've made the chalk last about 3 times longer than usual.

 

[sly_shooter]

The irritability symptoms and the brain-swelling has been seen in some of today's pool players. I think we may need to run some tests for lead poisoning for those showing these symptoms.

JoeyA

Maybe Earl has had too much chalk over the years...... oohh.. I didn't just say that, he's still one of my top heroes.

 

[JoeyA]

I hate to say I may try some expensive chalk now but if I miscue its out the door. I dont miscue much but when I do I feel its my stroke not my chalk. I feel the same as its just chalk but I have to try it before I knock it.

I really want to hear your report. I'm kind of embarassed at spending a few dollars for a piece of chalk but I want someone else or a lot of others who don't miscue much and feel like when they miscue it's probably their stroke to try this chalk and give a report. That's the way I have ALWAYS felt or if I hadn't chalked up in a few shots I realize that it could be the lack of chalk.

It's kind of peculiar that I didn't miscue even once in a few days. Normally I will miscue once a night when I am practicing tough shots but nooooooo.

So anyway, let us know your test results. For me, it could simply be that since I am using the little pouch I always have easy access to the chalk and maybe I just chalk more frequently. I may go back to Master Chalk in the pouch to see if I miscue.

JoeyA

 

[JoeyA]

:rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1::groucho: :groucho: :groucho:

One needs to learn to keep ones fingers out of ones mouth.

But seriously... that does explain a lot of what we see from time to time. A tell-tale symptom is a blue tongue and lips.

I carry/use mine in a Euro chalk holder and when it gets close to the paper I cut the paper down and put a quarter or two in the bottom of the holder. I've made the chalk last about 3 times longer than usual.

I'm trying to figure out a way to create new cubes from the remains of multiple BD left over pieces. :winknudge:

I need a good holder that I can put in my LIttle Joey pouch.
JoeyA

 

[NewStroke]

I'm trying to figure out a way to create new cubes from the remains of multiple BD left over pieces. :winknudge:

I need a good holder that I can put in my LIttle Joey pouch.
JoeyA

I have a method that I use. You need rope, vaseline, strong magnet, cigarrette paper and a 300 lb woman. That will fix you right up, plus you can shape it in any way you like. The default shape is starfish.