bois de rose

Used some many years ago. Very pretty wood. Probably the dirtiest of the rosewood's I've seen. Lots of oil. Quickly loses the bright violet color and becomes almost black with age. Have had people ask me if it was ebony.
 
I love that wood...I've bought alot of wood from geraldine5588 and always just what's pictured and not a representation....
 
Geraldine likes his wood though.you can get that stuff MUCH cheaper if you look around.it is prone to check for a Rosewood and does bleed a little worse than a bad Cocobolo,but it is actually prety solid and dense wood.i made a cue that had it for a handle and that cue had a surprisingly nice hit.i was very happy with it.i don't know about forearm use.to me the wood just looks like it will move,i don't know if it is stable or not,but it always looked like it was ready to move to me.
 
My favorite wood! I had a short spliced cue made of this wood, and never had an issue with it moving on me. It is one of those woods that really needs to be seasoned before use. Yes, it is very messy to work with...bleeds like a stuck pig. Polishes up to a fantastic finish. Terrific feel in the hands. Superior feedback, I think.

Most pieces will turn darker...kind of a black cherry color. From a distance, it will appear to be an ebony. Up close tho', when the light hits it, it has an amazing chatoyance (depth and shimmer). Really, quite pretty. It is becoming harder and harder to find, and is considered to be one of the rare rosewoods...only coming from Madagascar. It is predicted that it will soon go the way of Brazilian.

I am currently awaiting a non-veneered full splice cue of this and BEM to be completed, and can post pics once done, if there is an interest.

The cuemaker is trying something a little different with the finish, to see if we can preserve that gorgeous deep burgundy color and grain, without it darkening. Even if it does, I know it is a very solid hitting wood, and playability is tantamount to me.

Lisa
 
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very well said.i never had any problems with movement either or with bleeding.you can sealit off everytime you do anything with it.it just doesn't really look like your typical Rosewood.it just looks more fragile,and it is hard to find information from people who actually work with it.it is actually very tough and dense and made for a great hitting cue.i would like to see pics when it is done,Lisa.
 
I too used it and loved the way it hit. Also did not move on me. But, as noted above, it can really bleed color (it did with me), so take preautions. I seem to recall it had a great smell when cutting it too.

Black cherry, beautiful way to describe what the wood looks like finished (at least the pieces I had).
 
Also, if you do not need 18", gilmer has some great prices on some very nicely colored wood 1.5 x. 1.5 x 15. Not as much figure as that one on eBay, but if you are looking for the color, the price is great. I think it is on their specials pages, page 2, no pictures. 6 for $50, which is a very nice price.

I give away my sources only because since I am currently not buying any. :)

Tom
 
masonh said:
Geraldine likes his wood though.you can get that stuff MUCH cheaper if you look around.it is prone to check for a Rosewood and does bleed a little worse than a bad Cocobolo,but it is actually prety solid and dense wood.i made a cue that had it for a handle and that cue had a surprisingly nice hit.i was very happy with it.i don't know about forearm use.to me the wood just looks like it will move,i don't know if it is stable or not,but it always looked like it was ready to move to me.
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Some of their woods aren't too bad in price...
 
i have bought from him on Ebay only,so if he has a store somewhere else it may be cheaper.the stuff i bought was extremely figured and expensive,but i don't mind paying a little extra for something special it no one else has it.

when i said that stuff i meant typical Bois De Rose.the pieces i have seen are usually figure by having black lines.i wouldn't pay extra for something like that.i bought a high figured piece fo $17 that was 1.5" sq and 22" long.i think geraldines is almost $40 for a smaller sized piece of less figure.

that particular piece of Bois de Rose is very high prices.you should be able to find it for $15 or so.

if you need a special piece or something like that geraldine is good,but i wouldn't start trying to buy wood stock there.he is a pretty good guy,but his prices are inflated imo.
 
ridewiththewind said:
My favorite wood! I had a short spliced cue made of this wood, and never had an issue with it moving on me. It is one of those woods that really needs to be seasoned before use. Yes, it is very messy to work with...bleeds like a stuck pig. Polishes up to a fantastic finish. Terrific feel in the hands. Superior feedback, I think.

Most pieces will turn darker...kind of a black cherry color. From a distance, it will appear to be an ebony. Up close tho', when the light hits it, it has an amazing chatoyance (depth and shimmer). Really, quite pretty. It is becoming harder and harder to find, and is considered to be one of the rare rosewoods...only coming from Madagascar. It is predicted that it will soon go the way of Brazilian.

I am currently awaiting a non-veneered full splice cue of this and BEM to be completed, and can post pics once done, if there is an interest.

The cuemaker is trying something a little different with the finish, to see if we can preserve that gorgeous deep burgundy color and grain, without it darkening. Even if it does, I know it is a very solid hitting wood, and playability is tantamount to me.

Lisa
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That's a fantastic description. I can't ever describe the stuff like it deserves. It does have a waxy finish that looks beautiful.

I know where some Bois de Rose is available. Crown Cues is selling some on eBay. The auction is up in a day or so. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=320327077630

I believe there may be more listed, soon. Gene said he has way too much of it... whatever that means. How can you have too much Bois de Rose?
 
JesPiddlin said:
That's a fantastic description. I can't ever describe the stuff like it deserves. It does have a waxy finish that looks beautiful.

I know where some Bois de Rose is available. Crown Cues is selling some on eBay. The auction is up in a day or so. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=320327077630

I believe there may be more listed, soon. Gene said he has way too much of it... whatever that means. How can you have too much Bois de Rose?
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"How can you have too much Bois de Rose?"

As far as I'm concerned, one piece is to much. It bleeds to badly and all I've had it was just a bland, very deep maroon color.

Dick
 
If it bleeds, use a wood that the bleeding works with.... one that has similar coloring, but looks different enough to give good contrast.

I think Bois de Rose is just beautiful. I love the rich color and glossiness of the finish. I know a lot of people like deep, rich colors, like Bois de Rose.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. (not the beer holder. :wink: )
 
Hi,

Here are some technical details about the wood:

Bois de Rose or Dalbergia frutescens. Natural weight = 0,96 (Brasil).
Small tree which rarely grows thicker than 10" in diameter, 8" left after removal of the bark.
The yellow/pink heart wood shows clear pink/red stripes.
The grain is straight or irregular, fine texture and homogenus.
Dries easily but shows surface cracks. Dissficult to sawing and working.
Turning is much easier than regular projects. Excellent polishing.
Used for marquetry, for some wind instruments, decoration objects and woodworking.

And here are some practical details of the wood:

The wood is very oily and as any true rosewood, it dries slowly and has to be really dry before you can use it for cues. The boring into the wood needs to be slow as it burns easily and will not glue anymore if burned.
The wood is pretty heavy (0.96 to 1 (water)) and is advised to be cored due to rather easy cracking and splitting when used as forearms.
Because of the fact that the wood is oily, it will take a great finish when been sealed (with thin superglue for example). This also slows the loss of the nice deep purple color. But like all rosewoods, it will darken with time.
Be careful with inlays as the wood doesn't glue easily.

Here is a jump cue I made out of Bois de rose:

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Take care...

Tom Penrose
 

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That is a beautiful cue, Tom.

Do you have any Penrose relatives in Oklahoma? When I coached youth football, I had a little Penrose boy on my team who was fast as lightning, had a terrific arm and was as tough as they come! He always wore a smile, even if he came up out of the grass covered with stickers. Okay... he winced once in a while, but he was a really good kid. He's all grown up and probably has a family of his own, now.

Don't run across the name Penrose too often, so I had to ask.
 
JesPiddlin said:
That is a beautiful cue, Tom.

Do you have any Penrose relatives in Oklahoma? When I coached youth football, I had a little Penrose boy on my team who was fast as lightning, had a terrific arm and was as tough as they come! He always wore a smile, even if he came up out of the grass covered with stickers. Okay... he winced once in a while, but he was a really good kid. He's all grown up and probably has a family of his own, now.

Don't run across the name Penrose too often, so I had to ask.
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Hi Jes,

Don't know about any family in Oklahoma...
I'm often compaired to the Penrose Sausage though...:D
That's due to my physique I suppose.

Greetz,

Tom
 
masonh said:
Geraldine likes his wood though.you can get that stuff MUCH cheaper if you look around..
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I bought $400 worth of wood from him last week, beautiful wood but I got raped on freight. Bought 8 sticks so averaging $50 a stick and I bought alot in an attempt to save with combined freight well the total individual freight was like 122.50 and the sliced off 57 and charged me $65.50 to ship 8 PIECES OF WOOD!!!! maybe 12 lbs and since it was shipped USPS you know it wasn't that big.....

Sorry I had too vent :sorry:

Bob
 
masonh said:
very well said.i never had any problems with movement either or with bleeding.you can sealit off everytime you do anything with it.it just doesn't really look like your typical Rosewood.it just looks more fragile,and it is hard to find information from people who actually work with it.it is actually very tough and dense and made for a great hitting cue.i would like to see pics when it is done,Lisa.
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Here is a pic of that particular cue, done in Bois de Rose.

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This a full spliced cue, with the blank made by the maker. It is BdR into BEM, with a Satinwood butterfly, with lovely blue veneers, Satinwood 'Hoppe' type ring.

This cue feels and plays very solid. I have noticed no issues with checking or movement. Couldn't be happier with how it turned out. :grin:

Lisa
 
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