Brass Inserts 3/8" - 10

fiolledapool

fiolledapool

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hi,

I wanted this product Brass Inserts 3/8" - 10 , How can I find?

Prather and others suppliers dont have this product in your web sites.
I saw this product in Mcdermott sneaky pete.
 
fiolledapool said:
hi,

I wanted this product Brass Inserts 3/8" - 10 , How can I find?

Prather and others suppliers dont have this product in your web sites.
I saw this product in Mcdermott sneaky pete.
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typically, 3/8 x 10 doesnt use an insert, no need for one
i didnt know there was such a thing
every mcdermott i've seen is tapped into shaft
can you show us the cue you mentioned?
 
Some of them are QR's and some not but a brass 3/8-10. Dunno why. if you have a piece of 9/16 brass rod stock you can make one. Or you could use phenolic, rosewood, or just plain old tap the wood like Brent said.

John
 
fiolledapool said:
hi,

I wanted this product Brass Inserts 3/8" - 10 , How can I find?

Prather and others suppliers dont have this product in your web sites.
I saw this product in Mcdermott sneaky pete.
Click to expand...

McDermott did in fact use a brass insert in some shafts for the 3/8x10 pin but only for a short period of time. They quickly abandoned the idea.
I have a McD. brass 3/8x10 insert in my shop that I removed from one of those shafts. It is very similar in design to their QR insert except that the internal threads are different.
Why did they abandon the idea??? I don't know, you'd have to ask THEM.

The big pin already has considerable wght. to it. Brass ain't light.
FWIW, McD now uses a plastic insert in their 'i' shafts.

Can you tell us why you want a brass 3/8x10 insert?
Are there any limitations that prevent you from making one/some?

You could start with 1/2" brass rod as the McD. insert is .470" od.
Personally, I feel that phenolic is a better insert without the extra wght.
 
- Mcdermott cue was a sneaky pete, new version 2009. I bought this cue for a friend who wanted this model with 30 inch shaft, directly McDermott 2 weeks ago.

I saw brass insert in this cue, never had seen it in Mcdermott cues.
I usually prefer and make Phenolic inserts for my custom cues but I'd like to try with brass inserts in 3/8" - 10 joints, just curious¡¡¡


Michael in ctcueparts.com I do not see this product
 
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fiolledapool said:
- Mcdermott cue was a sneaky pete, new version 2009. I bought this cue for a friend who wanted this model with 30 inch shaft, directly McDermott 2 weeks ago.

I saw brass insert in this cue, never had seen it in Mcdermott cues.
I usually prefer and make Phenolic inserts for my custom cues but I'd like to try with brass inserts in 3/8" - 10 joints, just curious¡¡¡


Michael in ctcueparts.com I do not see this product
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They were done special for a guy doing joint protectors, shoot them an email and see if he has any left or plans to do some more.
 
I made a few hundred years ago and have sold most of them to a couple of cuemakers in Missouri. We made them to use as a quick release in the jump break joint and to repair stripped McD shafts. I no longer make them and have not seen anyone else other than McD make them since. I built a few cues with the 3/8-16 brass inserts as the main joint also. I have a bunch of the 3/8-16 left for $4 each. The outside thread is 1/2-20 if memory serves me right with a short 1/2" alignment shoulder. We were years ahead of the rest of the pack on that idea. We used them for quick release joints also by turning the from part of the pin down and just leave a few threads sticking out. My earlier jump breaks used that joint in both places. My new ones also use a similar version of the 3/8-16, but we now make the pin look a lot fancier.
 
Clearance vs. Binding

I'm not a cuemaker, I might make ass here now, but,
If there is a close fit for alignment (Big Screw/FlatFaced Joints),
Isn't the SS Pin going to bind in a Brass Insert (unless you add KY)?
And, if you add clearance, it would not align properly?
5/16" size pins/inserts can have clearance, 'cause the pilot's fit and face is the aligning factor (If made correctly)..
What do I know, I'm just a silly OLD Cap maker..
Alton - Old Cap Maker
Yes, I'm bored, so, I post stuff..:rolleyes:
*KY Jelly..:p
Mike Webb,
I read your post below...I think you misunderstood me. Sorry...
I wasn't refering to Ct. Cue, but, SS pins/inserts in general.
Sorry Ct. Cue..I wasn't refering to you guys.
I mentioned this just for thought..Being dis-similar metals..
Maybe a G-10 pin instead of SS..



 
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CueCaps said:
I'm not a cuemaker, I might make ass here now, but,
If there is a close fit for alignment (Big Screw/FlatFaced Joints),
Isn't the SS Pin going to bind in a Brass Insert (unless you add KY)?
And, if you add clearance, it would not align properly?
5/16" size pins/inserts can have clearance, 'cause the pilot's fit and face is the aligning factor (If made correctly)..
What do I know, I'm just a silly OLD Cap maker..
Alton - Old Cap Maker
Yes, I'm bored, so, I post stuff..:rolleyes:
*KY Jelly..:p
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No Sir, Ct. cue parts makes the screws so his inserts fit very well, Like I said, I just don't know if he has anymore in stock or if they were a one time run. Tom of TNS cues also makes inserts for the 3/8X10 but I don't think they are metal.
 
CueCaps said:
I'm not a cuemaker, I might make ass here now, but,
If there is a close fit for alignment (Big Screw/FlatFaced Joints),
Isn't the SS Pin going to bind in a Brass Insert (unless you add KY)?
And, if you add clearance, it would not align properly?
5/16" size pins/inserts can have clearance, 'cause the pilot's fit and face is the aligning factor (If made correctly)..
What do I know, I'm just a silly OLD Cap maker..
Alton - Old Cap Maker
Yes, I'm bored, so, I post stuff..:rolleyes:
*KY Jelly..:p
Mike Webb,
I read your post below...I think you misunderstood me. Sorry...
I wasn't refering to Ct. Cue, but, SS pins/inserts in general.
Sorry Ct. Cue..I wasn't refering to you guys.
I mentioned this just for thought..Being dis-similar metals..
Maybe a G-10 pin instead of SS..
Click to expand...
Being dis-similar metals like stainless and brass are why they do not bind. But if you brass insert and brass pin then they can freeze together. If you use stainless pin and stainless insert they can freeze together. I get close enough tolerances off the pin and insert that I do not need a piloted joint to give me my alignment and all my shafts will fit any butt.
 
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