JimS said:
Have you tried my earlier suggestion?
Break: Best video ever of a break :D
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Have you tried my earlier suggestion?
JimS said:
if u cant view the youtube version, i really dont know what to do more... :s
mjanti: yups
thats why i wanted to post them. hard to find good slowmo's of a good breaker. usually they break so fast, a break is only 3 frames of images.now id love to see a video in slowmo of stalev with a good angle. gonna try to find one in between my video's.
what id like is:
- Hohmans technique, stalev's body action, busta's wrist, souquet's controle and charly briants arm muscles.
enough to keep me busy for some years.craig: mm ill check the video and see if i wan find what u mean. not sure if it really adds power. as he raises the cue at the end anyway so he can get that downards movement. so his cue isnt horizontal AT all before he pulls the trigger. best way to discribe it is: imagine a guy on a scateboard, pushing himself forward VS a guy starting from a half pipe. u go first downwards, and then move this downwards movement into a horizontal. this adds a LOAD of speed.
Hi Solly,
Nice work on the breakdown. This was from the IPT where we had to break out of the box. Don't you think you would generate more power from the side rail?
Evgeny Stalev really raises the back of his cue high on the backswing. You might want to try and find a vid of one of his breaks.
Nice work on the breakdown. This was from the IPT where we had to break out of the box. Don't you think you would generate more power from the side rail?
Evgeny Stalev really raises the back of his cue high on the backswing. You might want to try and find a vid of one of his breaks.
rackmsuckr said:
linda thats what i did first, even before colin and now hohnman. i only have 1 small youtube break , in bad quality and camera bad positioned, and not in slowmo. the actual search was: stalev,charly briant, Colin, Hohmann.
if u have one, PLZ let me know
its fascinating to watch pro's break. really its an adiction.more power from the rail... there might be a difference, but having the bridge on the table, puts to cue more horizontal, reducing the jumpes even more. i wouldn't trade the extra controle of the 2-5° lower angle of the cue for a small powerdifference. also i dont think it really changes anything, the bridge hand doesnt aply any forward movement, so it doesnt matter where u put it. But the off the rail bridge puts the cue more horizontal, and even 1° can make a huge difference when breaking at masive speeds.
also , and im not sure if thats on purpose.. on the slowmo, its seems like Hohmann james his cue against the rail. the end bows lower then the rail... maybe he uses the rail as a horizontal ruler of some kind, or maybe its just a image trick and im getting breakparanoya
what do you think?
Nice work, my friend. You're missing the most crucial part of the break, though - when does he breathe? Does he inhale on the back stroke, or does he hold is breath? Is he exhaling during the stroke or does that waste energy? Come on man, don't shirk the details!
j/k, great breakdown. I like how you analyzed the angles of his body/cue, etc. 'Preciate it.
-yow!
j/k, great breakdown. I like how you analyzed the angles of his body/cue, etc. 'Preciate it.
-yow!
can you guys help me dissect my break with the following video. My gf recorded me with my cameraphone so the quality is terrible.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0znkaNdab1I
I recently started breaking from the rail and CANNOT for the life of me get a consistent break. 5/10 times I send the cueball flying to the opposite side pocket. I can control the CB prety well when breaking from the box, but then the percentage of balls pocketed on the break will decrease. Any suggestions on bringing this control from my box-break to the rail?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0znkaNdab1I
I recently started breaking from the rail and CANNOT for the life of me get a consistent break. 5/10 times I send the cueball flying to the opposite side pocket. I can control the CB prety well when breaking from the box, but then the percentage of balls pocketed on the break will decrease. Any suggestions on bringing this control from my box-break to the rail?
SteveFromNY said:
if the CB gets airbone to quickly, it means that your cue isnt level enough. most of the times this is because the cue lies above a finger + above the rail. the cb on the table lies alot lower, so u HAVE to elevate your cue to hit the CB just under the center. what helps is to lay the cue directly on the rail. this will take off the hight of your bridge hand. place the cue in between index and middlefinger, and the thumb on the INSIDE of the cue as a guide. this way u take off the extra hight of your bridgehand, and will reduce the jumping.
for the rest, the quality of the video is pritty low to really see alot. the angle is wrong. i cant see anything from that angle.
thanks for hte input! here's another (bad) video that a friend of mine took. it pains me to watch because I never knew how badly I bent my cue on the break. 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_2TYgN1bUP4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_2TYgN1bUP4
Great post Solly....I missed this when you put it up, glad someone linked to it.
Colin
Colin
Colin Colenso said:
welcome back Colin
how is it going there in australia?well ive got some new breaks analyses ready to be posted. its a archer break analyse.
just doing my homework my master
one day ill be crunching the pack like you do. i never thought before working on my break, how fascinating a break can be.
Solartje said:welcome back Colin
well ive got some new breaks analyses ready to be posted. its a archer break analyse.
just doing my homework my master
Going well here Solly!
Look forward to seeing some more good analysis from you
Colin
Colin Colenso said:Going well here Solly!
Look forward to seeing some more good analysis from you
Colin
guess this means we dont have to see that awfull carpet anymore in your next instructional video?
ill post some more analyses as soon as i got some time. im moving too , changed job, and so many other things, free time is SO scarce.
Hi solar,
Very good post, and since I am also a trainer coach I did also a lot of research on this subject. The only thing I cannot understand from Hohmanns break is this: He holds his cue more towards the balans point instead of towards to the back (what people normal do to get more swing / speed).
I cannot explain this in Thorsten's video. Can you help?
Very good post, and since I am also a trainer coach I did also a lot of research on this subject. The only thing I cannot understand from Hohmanns break is this: He holds his cue more towards the balans point instead of towards to the back (what people normal do to get more swing / speed).
I cannot explain this in Thorsten's video. Can you help?
Hi Colin,
Here is my .02. In the first video it looks like you are jacked up a little high but pretty good cue ball control. In the second video is something that I used to do and since I have stopped doing it my power has gone up. You seem to take a couple of warmup strokes and then when you are about to hit the ball you bring the cue back but not all the way and quickly fire it forward. I am not sure if I am explaining it right but I will try this.
Imagine counting to three and on three you would fire the cue ball.
The way you are doing it is 1........2...3
The way you should is 1........2........3
Hope this makes sense.
BVal
Here is my .02. In the first video it looks like you are jacked up a little high but pretty good cue ball control. In the second video is something that I used to do and since I have stopped doing it my power has gone up. You seem to take a couple of warmup strokes and then when you are about to hit the ball you bring the cue back but not all the way and quickly fire it forward. I am not sure if I am explaining it right but I will try this.
Imagine counting to three and on three you would fire the cue ball.
The way you are doing it is 1........2...3
The way you should is 1........2........3
Hope this makes sense.
BVal
Snapshot9 said:
hi scott,
yes serge did put on my table thuesday (he's leaving for the EC teams next week). stupid me forgot to put finish on 2 cornertops!! 2 pieces stayed at my parents house, and i totally forgot about it.!!!
MAN i was frustrated. so he did the leveling, the slate and the cussions. i installed the rails on the table and its 99,99% finished.going to put the finish on the corners tonight, let it harden for 24hours, and put the pockets in and its finished.
good news: as he is sponsered by simonis, i got the LATEST tournament cloth they made at a good price. it should be available soon. its a new kind of blue with a turquoise shine in it, it is by FAR the nicest simonis colour there is.
he also said he was amased at the work i did on the oak, and the table is probably the nicest diamond there is in europe.
there are only 5 diamonds i know of in belgium. i did miss one railbolt . im not sure if its really a big problem, but i'll have to check with a local guy to see if he can make a copy of the railbolt. still with 1 bolt missing, it doesnt seem to affect the way the rails play, but just for the security ill try to make a new one.scott!! i'll email you one picture tonight just for you, but i want to keep all the pictures untill i write the FULL story and building proces here on azb
i dont think ive seen a nicer table then this one. but maybe im just saying it, because its mine
but if serge says it is a LOOKEr, that means something! he did a greath job putting the cloth on! the corners are flawless, no ribbles nothing!.sorry for the OT