Break rule.. thought
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Mowem down said:
The flaw with this reasoning is that a 9-ball match is not one game but a set or sets of individual separate games. Each game of 9-ball in a match is a separate game, unlike say, straight pool. That is why someone should not automatically be able to continue their turn if they won the last game and then do not make a ball on the break. The previous game is over so there is not reason to have any right to a "free" break in the next (and separate) game. If you want to play where the guy at the table at the end of the previous rack gets to keep playing, just play straight pool.
What happens if the player does not make a ball but doesn't have a shot? Should he get free relief since the break not being a skilled shot, it is not his error that he is hooked after the break. Perhaps the player should be allowed a clear spot shot?
Also, by your way of reasoning, there should probably not be any alternate break rule allowed, only winner breaks.
Part of the reason for alternate break is to afford a more even match or at least a match where each player gets at least some number of chances. Perhaps this is to make a TV tournament more interesting. From a viewer perspective it probably does make for a more interesting, or suspenseful TV event. I think it is a little more equitable for each player to get some chances to perform in order for a winner to be determined, and I think alternate break lends itself to this than winner breaks.
Lastly, if you want to eliminate more luck from the game, there should also be a call shot rule for every shot.
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I wasnt meaning to say I think that is how the game should be played, it was just a thought, it just didnt sceme right when I was watching.DogsPlayingPool said:The flaw with this reasoning is that a 9-ball match is not one game but a set or sets of individual separate games. Each game of 9-ball in a match is a separate game, unlike say, straight pool. That is why someone should not automatically be able to continue their turn if they won the last game and then do not make a ball on the break. The previous game is over so there is not reason to have any right to a "free" break in the next (and separate) game. If you want to play where the guy at the table at the end of the previous rack gets to keep playing, just play straight pool.
What happens if the player does not make a ball but doesn't have a shot? Should he get free relief since the break not being a skilled shot, it is not his error that he is hooked after the break. Perhaps the player should be allowed a clear spot shot?
Also, by your way of reasoning, there should probably not be any alternate break rule allowed, only winner breaks.
Part of the reason for alternate break is to afford a more even match or at least a match where each player gets at least some number of chances. Perhaps this is to make a TV tournament more interesting. From a viewer perspective it probably does make for a more interesting, or suspenseful TV event. I think it is a little more equitable for each player to get some chances to perform in order for a winner to be determined, and I think alternate break lends itself to this than winner breaks.
Lastly, if you want to eliminate more luck from the game, there should also be a call shot rule for every shot.
Your first point is really a deal breaker on that thought anyway. A match of 9 ball is a set of games not one continuous game.
I think the better you are the less luck comes into play. I also think there are things that could be done to minimize the luck, but Im not lookng to open that can I was scared enough to look at the replys to this thread.
Mowem down said:
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The merits of 9-ball is something of a hot topic. Actually the break in 9-ball is one reason given for a move to 10-ball.
mosconiac said:
I was reading through the thread thinking the exact same thing and than BAM you said it. That is the only ways I could see happening. The only problem is that you are shooting in the money ball so it will not be in the stack so than what? I like the two 9 or 10 balls on the table. I would like to see how games like this would play out.
MJR77 said:
Well, I suppose when you get to the 9 you rack the rest (in what configuration I don't know, leave a hole in the middle?) then shoot at the nine while trying to break the pack. If the nine goes in you get the point and continue, with the nine getting spotted whenever it goes in. The race is to however many points. I guess that would be one way to do it.
That would certainly take the break out of the game. I suppose you could add call shot to the mix then the opening break would perhaps be played as a safety. They could maybe even change the name from 9-Ball to Rotation Straight Pool. :grin-square:
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