Coupled with the other guy was coasting in at that point we don't know how it would have ended had it gone to 50 but my money would certainly have been on the other guy
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Break Stats -- Van Boening vs. Chinahov 10-Ball Challenge Match, Nov. 6, 2015
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Coupled with the other guy was coasting in at that point we don't know how it would have ended had it gone to 50 but my money would certainly have been on the other guy
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At the break of game 5, 17:40 Rusian' broke, made a ball in the near side pocket...then went and sat down as Daryl took over the table...why? No foul on the break...watch it and see.
In many 9-Ball events in Europe, they use an illegal-break rule, or what they call the three-point rule. At least 3 balls must either be pocketed or reach the head string. Failure to do that is deemed non-satisfactory, and the opponent has the choice of accepting the table as is or giving it back to the breaker.
In the cited example, one ball was pocketed but just one reached the head string. So only two of the three points were achieved. Daryl accepted the table and shot the 2-ball.
[An illegal-break rule was also used at the recent US Open 9-Ball Championship, but the center string was the determining line for the "three points" rather than the head string.]
When was the last time you saw Shane run so few racks, and miss so much, and not punish his opponent for failing to make a ball, and turn the table back over to him?
Two months ago in his 10-Ball challenge match with Dechaine at Snookers in Rhode Island. Shane was successful on only 7 of 20 breaks, had only one B&R on those 20 breaks, and had about 14 misses and 7 fouls in a race to 21.
I totally reject any suggestion that something nefarious was going on in Shane's match with Chinahov. Shane has been spotty at best in recent months. Chinahov has been playing really well from what I have seen. Shane just played well below his best in this match. Chinahov took a big lead by winning 6 games in a row following the second timeout, which was taken with the score knotted at 15-15. Chinahov had a 3-pack in that stretch and made all 60 balls in those 6 games. The lead varied from 5 to 10 after that, but Shane never got close.
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I've never seen that break rule used before, but I think someone in another thread said it has been used in Europe some in 10-Ball.
Ron Swanson
Banned
Yes. It's hardly the end of the world, either - break rules change all the time with no apparent armageddon.
When was the last time you saw Shane's opponent with a B&R of 40%? Sorry, calling BS on your conspiracy theory.
When was the last time you saw Shane run so few racks, and miss so much, and not punish his opponent for failing to make a ball, and turn the table back over to him?
That was a treat!
Yeah, all I knew of the guy before the U.S. Open was that he is a top 14.1 player. He's only 23 years old, and he's already playing at a very sophisticated level. He's gonna be around for a while, that's for sure.
Exactly. Funny how some folks are saying that Shane is only an average player once you declaw him on the break.
Well, how might the match have gone if Chinahov only had a 14% B&R average and Shane had his normal break working?FWIW this is not the standard breaking format that is used in Europe. During an interview with Alison Fischer at Steinway she asked him, "Is outside-the-box breaking typical for the way you're used to playing?", to which he responded (trying to hide a slight smile), "No... not really."
So, it was a new breaking format to both of them. Ruslan figured it out for that table, Shane didn't. The break is huge. Chinahov's break in this match was just incredible once he got it dialed in. All other things being relatively equal, the break was the deciding factor once again.
Tell it to them. AtLarge
The silly conspiracy theories that these snakes and ignoramuses conjure up, you would think this is some Cold War Game of Death or something. This is a pretty insignificant match, no biggie
Geez :grin-square:
Meh!
If Ruslan wants to prove himself he will need to beat Karen Corr in a race to 100. That will give him something like a 1200 Fargo and with all that comes respect.
Until then these victories over Shane mean little when you know about variance and are hip to all the gaffs like a few select azb'ers.
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I´m not sure(been off from competitive pool for ages) but i believe outside box break is only official european championship tournaments(and finnish pool federation official tournaments).. as inside of box at 9-ball.
Mjantti could confirm if he sees this comment...
Mjantti could confirm if he sees this comment...
It was said in this here thread...if you have any wonder about chinahov's skilll level, check out this year's us olen brackets. He did quite well. And didnt play any pushovers either.
And Mr. Chinahov just beat Mr. Immonen 9-8 to win the Kremlin Cup.
Ruslan was successful on 8 of 9 breaks (including 3 B&R's), making the 2nd-row ball(s). He was dry once. Mika was dry twice and scratched twice. But Mika still got to the hill first (8-7) thanks to some misses by Ruslan. Then Ruslan ran out the penultimate game after one of Mika's scratches on the break. In the decider, Ruslan missed the 1-ball jacked up over the 8-ball, but slopped it safe. Mika hit the 1-ball on a kick but left an easy shot, and Ruslan was out for the win.
Quite a 3 days for the lanky Russian!
Ruslan was successful on 8 of 9 breaks (including 3 B&R's), making the 2nd-row ball(s). He was dry once. Mika was dry twice and scratched twice. But Mika still got to the hill first (8-7) thanks to some misses by Ruslan. Then Ruslan ran out the penultimate game after one of Mika's scratches on the break. In the decider, Ruslan missed the 1-ball jacked up over the 8-ball, but slopped it safe. Mika hit the 1-ball on a kick but left an easy shot, and Ruslan was out for the win.
Quite a 3 days for the lanky Russian!
Ron Swanson
Banned
Big breakers with home advantage winning matches...hmmm why does that sound familiar?
