Brunswick Centennial

joelpope

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Does anyone have any experience with the old school design Brunswick Centennial that they are selling again?
 

60inchcueguy

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I have a nice original Brunswick Centennial for sale if you're interested. The table is in southwestern Ohio.

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garczar

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It is the "old school" look, but it is definitely not the "old school" design. And they are made in China.
Every table sold by B'wick since '76ish has been made overseas somewhere. There are differences but the new version is built pretty stout going by that manual i posted.
 

Kickin' Chicken

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Every table sold by B'wick since '76ish has been made overseas somewhere. There are differences but the new version is built pretty stout going by that manual i posted.
While it may be stout, if made in China its probably done poorly and with substandard materials. That is the unfortunate truth for quite a while now.
 

maha

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the old school anniversary and centennial tables are forever tables and will never be duplicated.
for probably less than a new one you could get a refinished old one with great slate and sturdy.
 

garczar

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While it may be stout, if made in China its probably done poorly and with substandard materials. That is the unfortunate truth for quite a while now.
I haven't seen a GC6 or a Cent. but the 5 i looked at was perfect. Until i actually see/play one of these i'm gonna hold judgement.
 
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SBC

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Get the real deal.
Easy to restore if needed.
Upgrade the cushions and diamonize the pocket openings.
I got mine for $800
1962....last ones they made before the GC1.
 

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rexus31

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Get the real deal.
Easy to restore if needed.
Upgrade the cushions and diamonize the pocket openings.
I got mine for $800
1962....last ones they made before the GC1.
That's an Anniversary. Restoring the Centennial's aluminum aprons can be challenging and expensive.

The new Centennial is most likely along the same quality as a new Gold Crown. One benefit of brand new is flush, screw in pocket liners. The asking price is what gets me. If you have the skills and tools to restore an original, you might be able to restore an original for less even if you farm out the metal work. To do it properly, the clear anodize need to be removed to get to bare aluminum, any imperfections addressed, polished then clear anodized. You could also apply an automotive clear over the polished aluminum so it resists corrosion but it will not be as durable as anodizing. If I were looking for one I'd want rosewood rails and I'd update it with the later pocket casting with screw in liners which can be difficult to find. I'm not a fan of nail in pocket liners.
 

garczar

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How's that computer, tablet or phone you're typing on hold up? How about your TV? Shall I go on?
No shit. If one snapped their fingers and made all Chinese-made stuff go away they'd be kinda screwed. The way it is. I buy US when possible but that's impossible in most cases.
 

Kickin' Chicken

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How's that computer, tablet or phone you're typing on hold up? How about your TV? Shall I go on?
Approx 25 years ago I was looking to install a stereo in a newly acquired boat and was at a Lowes maybe 25 miles from my house which back then was the closest one to me. I had a choice of getting a made in USA Klein tool wirestripper / cutter for ~$18 or a Made in China version for about ten bucks less. I figured I might need such a tool maybe once a year, if that, and so I bought the Chinese one. Got home and right out of the package it would not strip wire and just barely cut it. That was my 1st exposure to crap quality goods from China.

My bad decision cost me a round trip back to that Lowes and all of the inconvenience that came with it. Since then I have witnessed myriad exampkes of shit quality items coming from there. After Hurrican Katrina all of the imported sheetrock that flooded the market and was widely used to rebuild much of damaged Louisiana and Mississipi only to soon-after find out the gypsum used were toxic and holes began showing up in copper pipes in these homes along with people getting sick. Even many of the residents jewelery began corroding due to the toxicity. Yikes!

Then the dog food that was killing our pets. Add the lead and melamine often found in kids toys.

I replaced a car window thru Safelite and after install I actually saw waviness in the glass. It was because it was replacement glass that was made in China.

Guys at the race and resto shop I'm affiliated with are so fed up with the poor quality fit and poor operation of so many parts they receive when the original parts are unavailable. They oftentime have to modify the parts in order to get them to work.

Maybe 15 or so years ago the famous British Chocolate company, Cadbury, had a public relations disaster when during that years Valentine Day sales resulted in them having to issue a recall on candies mfg'd in China - it was determined the candies were tainted with an industrial compound, melamine.

Shall I go on? I can, for days...

Original Brunswick tables, as you know, are lifetime quality tables. They are tried and treue, proven to hold up for decades in commercial use environments. Me personally, with China's extremely poor track record, I'm not taking any chan ces with unproven quality pool tables, or anything else, when possible.

All above is based on my experience and is my opinion.
 
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DeeDeeCues

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While it may be stout, if made in China its probably done poorly and with substandard materials. That is the unfortunate truth for quite a while now.

Utter BS. The Chinese are able to manufacture to whatever quality and tolerances the manufacturer requests. The fact that Manny manufacturers have the Chinese build substandard products is fully the fault of the consumers who still buy garbage.
 

DeeDeeCues

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Approx 25 years ago I was looking to install a stereo in a newly acquired boat and was at a Lowes maybe 25 miles from my house which back then was the closest one to me. I had a choice of getting a made in USA Klein too wirestripper / cutter for ~$18 or a Made in China version for about ten bucks less. I figured I might need such a tool maybe once a year, if that, and so I bought the Chinese one. Got home and right out of the package it would not strip wire and just barely cut it. That was my 1st exposure to crap quality goods from Japan. My bad decision cosy me a round trip back tothat Lowes and all of the inconvenience that comes with it. Since then I have witnessed myriad exampkes of shit quality items coming from there. After Hurrican Katrina all of the imported sheetrock that flooded the market and was widely used to rebuild much of damaged Louisiana and Mississipi only to soon-after find out the gypsum used were toxic and holes began showing up in copper pipes in these homes along with people getting sick. Even many of the residents jewelery began corroding due to the toxicity. Yikes!

Then the dog food that was killing our pets. Add the lead and melamine often found in kids toys. I replaced a car window thru Safelite and after install I actually saw waviness in the glass. It was because it was made in China.

Guys at the race and resto shop I'm affiliated with are so fed up with the poor quality fit and operation of so many parts theuy receive when the original parts are unobtainable. They oftentime have to modify the parts in order to get them to work.

Maybe 15 or so years ago the famous British Chocolate company, Cadbury, had a public relations disaster when during that years Valentine Day sales they had to issue a recall on candies mfg'd in China - it was determined the candies were tainted with an industrial compound melamine.

Shall I go on? I can, for days...

Original Brunswick tables, as you know, are lifetime quality tables. They are tried and treue, proven to hold up for decades in commercial use environments. Me personally, with China's extremely poor track record, I'm not taking any chan ces with unproven quality pool tables, or anything else, when possible.

All above is based on my experience and is my opinion.

Wtf are you on about? Were the wire strippers from Japan or China? They aren't the same.

A lot of Klein tools are made overseas and have been for a long time. They are interchangeable from the ones made in the US. Sad or not.

The melamine thing was still being sold by USA and European companies that failed to do the quality control... Or they specified the melamine.

The common belief is wrong. In the end the fault of products can only be blamed on the people who design them and sell them. If the Chinese companies don't build to spec, the people who put their name on it shouldn't sell it.
 
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