Build a champion in a month or 2. Is this possible?

[elvicash]

How about Gene? You have any 60 year old players for him to play? :smile:

We got an older 60+ guy that plays pretty good one hole. I don't know if we got anyone 60+ for him to play rotation pool. I am pretty sure there is a fellow 55 plus that would give him a workout on the rotation. We got plenty of good players. I do not know how many would pay for pool classes but many will gamble.

I will take the perfect aim class myself. If he gets near Indiana I would drive to get some of his time. I like what he talks about and he gave me an excellent free phone class.

 

[ChrisBanks]

When Zack got up he couldn't wait to get down to the poolhall. I really don't like the game that he's going to play with Jimmy. Jimmy plays great already and now he has Perfect Aim in his back pocket and has told me how much it helps zero in the shots.

Zack is a trouper. He's butting heads with Jimmy and getting nowhere. He complains to me how lucky Jimmy is getting and all I'm seeing is Jimmy playing really well.

Zack seemed to be on the short side of it all night and they played until 5:00 AM. Then Randy finally told them it was enough and he closed the room. I was happy he closed it. Zack was stuck 4 games and to me I could see no way he was going to catch up. They were playing for $100 a game.

I also see something in Zacks approach that we need to work on. When playing 9 ball he keeps doing what he needs to do to keep aiming correctly but when he's dinking around bumping balls there are allot of bad things going on with his stroke and form.

It's only been about 3 weeks since he started playing again and I'm going to pull him up from the one pocket. He needs to hit balls. Not be shooting shots that he needs to sqeeze the juice out of. One after another after another.

I never heard of one pocket ever building a champion and I can see why now. it's a great game but you better have your routine down pretty solid or it will tear you up and throw you away. You had to play really good pool almost champion pool to play champion one pocket. You can out move the other player all you want but if you can't execute the shot when the time comes it's all for nothing and you will probably lose.

I don't know if i want Zack playing Jimmy until we get this little glitch in his approach straightened out. But i still might against my better judgement. Playing 9 ball or 10 ball he can maybe do it while in action. But i really like to see him play for awhile without the hammer over his head. That $100 hammer so he can think more about what he's doing.

I'm not out here to donate but to teach players how to play better and build a champion here.

I can't see where having Zack continue to play Jimmy day after day here until his stroke is so fidgety that he can't make a ball benefits anyone except Jimmy if he wins.

Right now the bankroll is even. The pool has us a little stuck. The lessons and the videos have us back to even.

Just like any road player the road is chewing at us like a hungry animal.

Motel room is $40 per day. Gas about $10. If we play on the special at Big Dogs on the pool that's $30 per day for each. And we got to eat. $30 a day if we make our own food.

That's $110 per day no matter how you cut it. And with a few other things is easily $150 per day. That's a $1050.00 nut per week.

Tough to make that playing one of the best up and coming players around and cover the nut each day.

Just playing one pocket to gamble like Zack is doing is serving no purpose except to get him out of stroke and us broke. The money is getting in the way of the technique. At this time the technique is way more important than betting allot of money. Plus, no technique, pretty soon no money. .

He needs to step back and smell the roses and rest a little. think a little and really see what is happening here. He needs to see it for himself or it does no good. This is part of the learning process. Can't just tell him but he needs to see it.

It's real easy to get caught up in the small battle and be blinded to the big battle.

THE ROAD.

If you let it the road will bust you. One bite at a time.

And it won't take long.

2 men a van and the road.......

Gene,

$30 a day for food = $900 per month.

You can learn to live happily on nothing more than cans of baked beans, bread, and canned vegetables.

1 can baked beans = $1.00
1 can vegetables = $0.50
4-5 bread slices = $0.25
Jug of water = $1.00
DAILY EXPENSE = $2.75 (We'll call it $3.00)

$3.00 x 2 people = $6.00 per day

Monthly Expense = $180

I just saved you $720 per month. And after a week or two you will be feeling healthier and certainly shooting better!

And finally, if you are in the least concerned about money and expenses, would you consider this some small matter? Think of what a burden will be released when you have an extra $720 in your pocket every month!

 

[Jeff M]

not possible unless you start with a champion

Not true. Players of fairly average talent have become great through hard work, and many with great talent have never won anything.

 

[Jeff M]

Back to big dogs and their Sunday night 9 ball tourny.

We'll probably both play in this and see what direction the game will take us.

Both slept all day.

Recharged and ready to go.

Another day and another adventure..............

Bog Dogs? I was there a little over a week ago. Too bad I missed you. Would not have minded learning how your perfect aim works. It was a pretty nice place.

 

[nobcitypool]

Gene,

$30 a day for food = $900 per month.

You can learn to live happily on nothing more than cans of baked beans, bread, and canned vegetables.

1 can baked beans = $1.00
1 can vegetables = $0.50
4-5 bread slices = $0.25
Jug of water = $1.00
DAILY EXPENSE = $2.75 (We'll call it $3.00)

$3.00 x 2 people = $6.00 per day

Monthly Expense = $180

I just saved you $720 per month. And after a week or two you will be feeling healthier and certainly shooting better!

And finally, if you are in the least concerned about money and expenses, would you consider this some small matter? Think of what a burden will be released when you have an extra $720 in your pocket every month!

If I ate baked beans 2 to 4 days straight, anyone would gladly come out of pocket the extra $720 for the month versus stay in the same room with me and get gassed out. :embarrassed2:

 

[ChrisBanks]

If I ate baked beans 2 to 4 days straight, anyone would gladly come out of pocket the extra $720 for the month versus stay in the same room with me and get gassed out. :embarrassed2:

But I must interject, if money is an object in this road endeavour, then why is $900 per month being spent on food? If this is truly the case, the implication is that the travellers are more concerned with going on the road in order to eat, rather than to make money!

 

[Montana Mike]

But I must interject, if money is an object in this road endeavour, then why is $900 per month being spent on food? If this is truly the case, the implication is that the travellers are more concerned with going on the road in order to eat, rather than to make money!

I think the object is to teach a young guy how the pool world works, develop his game, live right, hopefully learn how to win, and to survive until that happens.

You can skimp on a lot of things but in the end you still have to maintain the drive to keep doing it day in and day out. I like Gene's routine. The cooking meals and crunching numbers constantly would help keep me and another buddy in line regarding expenses. I know when I was younger I got away with skimping on a lot of things, especially food, but now that I am nearing the half-way point I have to eat. Nowadays you don't get much for $30 unless you are eating off the dollar menu. Eating like that doesn't give you the fuel you need to keep all your faculties up. An old timer used to tell me that you have to eat good to play good. Took me til recently before I realized that a hotel room and good food was way better than sleeping in the car and eating out of a gas station. You save money up front but it undoubtedly costs you in the long run.

 

[JB Cases]

But I must interject, if money is an object in this road endeavour, then why is $900 per month being spent on food? If this is truly the case, the implication is that the travellers are more concerned with going on the road in order to eat, rather than to make money!

The object of being on the road as a pool player is to enjoy the freedom of being able to go where you want to go when you want to go there AND be able to live in a nice style when you're fairly flush and a decent style when you're not. I don't know about Gene but I can tell that some older road players have experienced the spam and beans existence from time to time.

And then if the manage to make good scores and build up a healthy bankroll they can afford to splurge on the steak and lobster.

What Gene is teaching is how to manage the bankroll and treat yourself right so that you have the stamina and mindset to play to the best level you can when you're in action. I can tell you that this information is invaluable.

I had actually never thought about nutrition while gambling until a friend of mine clued me in to how the body works. He would make sure he was hydrated with water and have energy bars and fruit to keep him prepared for long sessions.

So Gene is right about balancing nutrition and the costs associated with it. Of course you are also right in that the costs can be trimmed in a bunch of ways to be even leaner. A properly equipped van is a good motor home.

All this reminds me of a guy I knew in Germany. He bought a delivery van, more of a cross between a station wagon and a small truck, and fixed it up in the back so that it was a super comfortable sleeping space and he traveled Europe playing pool in tournaments and gambling. I have rarely met a happier person than he seemed to be with his gypsy existence.

And regarding the finances.....I once sat down with him and asked him how he was doing and he showed me his bank book and it was a HEALTHY balance in there. He claimed that when he went on the road he didn't have much money and he just lived simply and put the pool winnings away.

 

[JB Cases]

I think the object is to teach a young guy how the pool world works, develop his game, live right, hopefully learn how to win, and to survive until that happens.

You can skimp on a lot of things but in the end you still have to maintain the drive to keep doing it day in and day out. I like Gene's routine. The cooking meals and crunching numbers constantly would help keep me and another buddy in line regarding expenses. I know when I was younger I got away with skimping on a lot of things, especially food, but now that I am nearing the half-way point I have to eat. Nowadays you don't get much for $30 unless you are eating off the dollar menu. Eating like that doesn't give you the fuel you need to keep all your faculties up. An old timer used to tell me that you have to eat good to play good. Took me til recently before I realized that a hotel room and good food was way better than sleeping in the car and eating out of a gas station. You save money up front but it undoubtedly costs you in the long run.

You know this brings up another thing that Gene hasn't mentioned but which could be HUGE for anyone on the road.

Coupons and specials.

These days you can sign up online for dozens of services which LOVE to send you deals for any zip code you are in. Groupon for example regularly has deals for 50% meals at good restaurants. And it's a way to learn about places that you might not otherwise find that are great.

And coupons? Some people specialize in them and you can print them off and in some cases you don't even need to do that. Just show them on your phone to the cashier and she scans it.

But seriously, spending say an hour a day or less getting all the specials lined up in a city could save a ton AND lead to some fun going to cool places.

 

[ChrisBanks]

The object of being on the road as a pool player is to enjoy the freedom of being able to go where you want to go when you want to go there AND be able to live in a nice style when you're fairly flush and a decent style when you're not. I don't know about Gene but I can tell that some older road players have experienced the spam and beans existence from time to time.

And then if the manage to make good scores and build up a healthy bankroll they can afford to splurge on the steak and lobster.

What Gene is teaching is how to manage the bankroll and treat yourself right so that you have the stamina and mindset to play to the best level you can when you're in action. I can tell you that this information is invaluable.

I had actually never thought about nutrition while gambling until a friend of mine clued me in to how the body works. He would make sure he was hydrated with water and have energy bars and fruit to keep him prepared for long sessions.

So Gene is right about balancing nutrition and the costs associated with it. Of course you are also right in that the costs can be trimmed in a bunch of ways to be even leaner. A properly equipped van is a good motor home.

All this reminds me of a guy I knew in Germany. He bought a delivery van, more of a cross between a station wagon and a small truck, and fixed it up in the back so that it was a super comfortable sleeping space and he traveled Europe playing pool in tournaments and gambling. I have rarely met a happier person than he seemed to be with his gypsy existence.

And regarding the finances.....I once sat down with him and asked him how he was doing and he showed me his bank book and it was a HEALTHY balance in there. He claimed that when he went on the road he didn't have much money and he just lived simply and put the pool winnings away.

You've made several worthwhile suggestions. I will say that I have been able to train myself to be equally satisfied no matter what type of food is in front of me. A steak is no different to me than baked beans. If one can honestly succeed in thinking this way, then there is no need to eat steak, and therefore no need to acquire the money needed to buy the steak.

Nutrition is a different matter. I can't claim to know anything about it. I know Rafael Nadal eats bananas while playing tennis, so I probably should do so playing pool.

My goal is to not be a slave to my body. My body will do just fine sleeping in the grass every night. It is just my opinion of sleeping in the grass that is likely to cause me problems from doing it. I will admit that GOOD sleep is necessary, but you could get good sleep in the grass if you had a good opinion of doing so.

So I will admit you that perhaps more attention could be given to nutrition.

Edited: I would also like to add that beans are quite healthy! As are vegetables. And they both can be had very cheap. Make sure you have two spare can openers.

 

[genomachino]

Had a great day and good action............

zack and myself started out playing in the Sunday night tourny.

Zack ended up playing Mike A 7 ahead for $500. Won the first set real quick and started out on the second. They battled for about 4 hours and finally Mike quit and we just pro rated the amount so Zack ended up winning $700.

Then another guy stepped up and played Zack a 3 ahead set of one pocket for $300.

Zack won that also. I was pretty proud of my young player. He's got allot of stamina already. Eating right and excersizing will beef it up even more.

Myself, I didn't feel well all night. Blood sugar thing. I had a young guy Mike step up and play me some $200 sets. I lost the first one. won the second.

Went back and forth for about 4 sets. I was ahead one set and lost a hill hill game on the last set to break even.

I'm going to play Mike some more. I really like the game if I feel good.

We just got the room here for another week. this is a great pool town. Action all over the place.

Bankroll just got a little bit bigger.

2 men a van and the road.............

 

[ChrisBanks]

zack and myself started out playing in the Sunday night tourny.

Zack ended up playing Mike A 7 ahead for $500. Won the first set real quick and started out on the second. They battled for about 4 hours and finally Mike quit and we just pro rated the amount so Zack ended up winning $700.

Then another guy stepped up and played Zack a 3 ahead set of one pocket for $300.

Zack won that also. I was pretty proud of my young player. He's got allot of stamina already. Eating right and excersizing will beef it up even more.

Myself, I didn't feel well all night. Blood sugar thing. I had a young guy Mike step up and play me some $200 sets. I lost the first one. won the second.

Went back and forth for about 4 sets. I was ahead one set and lost a hill hill game on the last set to break even.

I'm going to play Mike some more. I really like the game if I feel good.

We just got the room here for another week. this is a great pool town. Action all over the place.

Bankroll just got a little bit bigger.

2 men a van and the road.............

Well done. Just remember not to give out those perfect aim lessons until you're ready to leave!

 

[BeiberLvr]

You've made several worthwhile suggestions. I will say that I have been able to train myself to be equally satisfied no matter what type of food is in front of me. A steak is no different to me than baked beans. If one can honestly succeed in thinking this way, then there is no need to eat steak, and therefore no need to acquire the money needed to buy the steak.

Nutrition is a different matter. I can't claim to know anything about it. I know Rafael Nadal eats bananas while playing tennis, so I probably should do so playing pool.

My goal is to not be a slave to my body. My body will do just fine sleeping in the grass every night. It is just my opinion of sleeping in the grass that is likely to cause me problems from doing it. I will admit that GOOD sleep is necessary, but you could get good sleep in the grass if you had a good opinion of doing so.

So I will admit you that perhaps more attention could be given to nutrition.

Edited: I would also like to add that beans are quite healthy! As are vegetables. And they both can be had very cheap. Make sure you have two spare can openers.

Nutrition is huge, and can definitely play a big part in how well you play. Not sure if you ever play tournaments, but here's a little test you can do if you play in any weekly tournaments.

One week, right before the tournament fill up on some greasy food and soda. The following week, eat light. Maybe a salad or some chicken, and bring a protein bar in case you get hungry during the tournament. Compare your results. Personally for me, I always do much better when I eat healthier before and during a session.

Recently I purchased that NutriBullet, and it's been the best $100 I've spent. Fills me up, gives me plenty of energy, and I don't feel bogged down.

 

[ChrisBanks]

Nutrition is huge, and can definitely play a big part in how well you play. Not sure if you ever play tournaments, but here's a little test you can do if you play in any weekly tournaments.

One week, right before the tournament fill up on some greasy food and soda. The following week, eat light. Maybe a salad or some chicken, and bring a protein bar in case you get hungry during the tournament. Compare your results. Personally for me, I always do much better when I eat healthier before and during a session.

Recently I purchased that NutriBullet, and it's been the best $100 I've spent. Fills me up, gives me plenty of energy, and I don't feel bogged down.

I've found it best to eat nothing prior to playing. And I've definitely played poorly after eating a large meal. I would like to know the decrease in hand eye coordination during, say, a 48-hour fasting period. My hypothesis is that the fasting period would not decrease any of the mind's faculties. But who knows.

 

[JB Cases]

Well done. Just remember not to give out those perfect aim lessons until you're ready to leave!

This is how strong geno moves. He gives you a lesson and will still gamble with you.

From what I see geno and zack are straight up players, no nitting around, just step up and play with a line of customers.

www.jbcases.com

 

[JoeyA]

Nutrition is huge, and can definitely play a big part in how well you play. Not sure if you ever play tournaments, but here's a little test you can do if you play in any weekly tournaments.

One week, right before the tournament fill up on some greasy food and soda. The following week, eat light. Maybe a salad or some chicken, and bring a protein bar in case you get hungry during the tournament. Compare your results. Personally for me, I always do much better when I eat healthier before and during a session.

Recently I purchased that NutriBullet, and it's been the best $100 I've spent. Fills me up, gives me plenty of energy, and I don't feel bogged down.

Is this what you are talking about? http://www.nutribullet.com/

Just what recipe are you using?

 

[JoeyA]

We got an older 60+ guy that plays pretty good one hole. I don't know if we got anyone 60+ for him to play rotation pool. I am pretty sure there is a fellow 55 plus that would give him a workout on the rotation. We got plenty of good players. I do not know how many would pay for pool classes but many will gamble.

I will take the perfect aim class myself. If he gets near Indiana I would drive to get some of his time. I like what he talks about and he gave me an excellent free phone class.

It is very funny. I've noticed the same thing. People will gamble for a couple of hundred dollars without hesitation, taking the worst of it but ask them if they want to improve their pool game with a two hundred dollar pool lesson and they act like you're from outer space. :grin-square:

 

[JoeyA]

Gene,

$30 a day for food = $900 per month.

You can learn to live happily on nothing more than cans of baked beans, bread, and canned vegetables.

1 can baked beans = $1.00
1 can vegetables = $0.50
4-5 bread slices = $0.25
Jug of water = $1.00
DAILY EXPENSE = $2.75 (We'll call it $3.00)

$3.00 x 2 people = $6.00 per day

Monthly Expense = $180

I just saved you $720 per month. And after a week or two you will be feeling healthier and certainly shooting better!

And finally, if you are in the least concerned about money and expenses, would you consider this some small matter? Think of what a burden will be released when you have an extra $720 in your pocket every month!

Hey Big Spender, :wink:

Get rid of that jug of water expense and you're down to $120 a month in food expenses.

Tap water is available practically everywhere for free.

If you're passing through the town of Abita Springs in Louisiana, you can fill up your jugs with spring water for free.

 

[Jeff M]

Geno, you could go to the Central Ohio Open Jan. 11th through the 13th at the 8-Ball in Columbus, Ohio. $1200 added to the 9 ball open singles. Then I could take some perfect aim lessons!

 

[RAMIII]

Real King Cobra

The object of being on the road as a pool player is to enjoy the freedom of being able to go where you want to go when you want to go there AND be able to live in a nice style when you're fairly flush and a decent style when you're not. I don't know about Gene but I can tell that some older road players have experienced the spam and beans existence from time to time.

And then if the manage to make good scores and build up a healthy bankroll they can afford to splurge on the steak and lobster.

What Gene is teaching is how to manage the bankroll and treat yourself right so that you have the stamina and mindset to play to the best level you can when you're in action. I can tell you that this information is invaluable.

I had actually never thought about nutrition while gambling until a friend of mine clued me in to how the body works. He would make sure he was hydrated with water and have energy bars and fruit to keep him prepared for long sessions.

So Gene is right about balancing nutrition and the costs associated with it. Of course you are also right in that the costs can be trimmed in a bunch of ways to be even leaner. A properly equipped van is a good motor home.

All this reminds me of a guy I knew in Germany. He bought a delivery van, more of a cross between a station wagon and a small truck, and fixed it up in the back so that it was a super comfortable sleeping space and he traveled Europe playing pool in tournaments and gambling. I have rarely met a happier person than he seemed to be with his gypsy existence.

And regarding the finances.....I once sat down with him and asked him how he was doing and he showed me his bank book and it was a HEALTHY balance in there. He claimed that when he went on the road he didn't have much money and he just lived simply and put the pool winnings away.

I think this is exactly how and why Real King Cobra, Glen Hathcock, can remain so successful as a table mechanic. Every place he goes he eats and sleeps in his box truck. I'm surprised how little he charges for the time and quality of work that people receive, but he's able to make it work because he lives in his truck. It's a solid method, but not without it's challenges. Glen has tons of humorous stories about folks pestering him in the night while he's sleeping in his truck. Maybe it will soon be two men a truck and the road.....