Butt with interchangeble pins

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fish2

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With all those available pins, has anyone made a cue butt with an insert where you can choose any pin to accomodate any shaft? Aside from the occasional time where you break the cue and the pins stays with the shaft, are there any downside to this?

EDIT: thinking a 3/8 x 10 pin into the butt of the cue would be the best option to avoid adding a brass insert into the butt
 
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fish2 said:
With all those available pins, has anyone made a cue butt with an insert where you can choose any pin to accomodate any shaft? Aside from the occasional time where you break the cue and the pins stays with the shaft, are there any downside to this?
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Expect a lot of responses to say it is a horrible idea.

I did this on a cue once, somewhat. I was experimenting with an extremely light hollow cf/phenolic hybrid pin. I never glued it in because I expected it to break. I had it for a year, one of my buddies fell in love with it, so he ended up with it. It was pretty awesome.
 
fish2 said:
With all those available pins, has anyone made a cue butt with an insert where you can choose any pin to accomodate any shaft? Aside from the occasional time where you break the cue and the pins stays with the shaft, are there any downside to this?

EDIT: thinking a 3/8 x 10 pin into the butt of the cue would be the best option to avoid adding a brass insert into the butt
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Doesn't someone already make something like this? Damned if I can remember the name, though.

Edit: here's something sort of what you're talking about:

www.pooldawg.com

Spartan Interchangeable Joint Adapters

Change the insert on your Spartan Victory shaft!
www.pooldawg.com www.pooldawg.com
 
Would be an interesting idea. Not sure how you could lock the pin and still have something look aesthetically pleasing. I know their is one company out their right now that is offering carbon fiber shafts that have a interchangeable joint.
 
Zerksies said:
Would be an interesting idea. Not sure how you could lock the pin and still have something look aesthetically pleasing. I know their is one company out their right now that is offering carbon fiber shafts that have a interchangeable joint.
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Don't worry about locking the pin, it is just a tension member.
 
Zerksies said:
Would be an interesting idea. Not sure how you could lock the pin and still have something look aesthetically pleasing. I know their is one company out their right now that is offering carbon fiber shafts that have a interchangeable joint.
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Whyte Carbon

https://whytecarbon.com/products/3-8-10m

Not my cup of tea but I do like what they are doing with how they lay up their carbon fiber shafts. Would like to try one out but not at that price. ;)
 
Something similar to what Whyte does with shafts would be possible, but all pins would have to be a custom solution as they would have to have a very different connection for the part of the pin that sits down in the forearm. Having a 5/8" hole 2" down in the forearm wouldn't leave much material, so that would be a potential weak spot.
The insert that holds the pin would have to be secured somehow, so a keyway and something like a threaded ring that holds the whole pin/insert in place. Pretty involved engineering for a pool cue..
 
fish2 said:
With all those available pins, has anyone made a cue butt with an insert where you can choose any pin to accomodate any shaft? Aside from the occasional time where you break the cue and the pins stays with the shaft, are there any downside to this?

EDIT: thinking a 3/8 x 10 pin into the butt of the cue would be the best option to avoid adding a brass insert into the butt
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troll much?????
 
How about a 28” butt with whatever pin and a 1” adapter for the different threads. Or 27.5 butt/1.5 adaptor. The butt can have a 5/16 14 and each adapter will be 5/16-14 and desired thread on the shaft end. Something like this. I’m sure somebody did or thought about this.
 
Kim Bye said:
Having a 5/8" hole 2" down in the forearm wouldn't leave much material, so that would be a potential weak spot.
The insert that holds the pin would have to be secured somehow, so a keyway and something like a threaded ring that holds the whole pin/insert in place. Pretty involved engineering for a pool cue..
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if you use a 3/8 x 10 pin into the butt removes the need for an insert
 
fish2 said:
if you use a 3/8 x 10 pin into the butt removes the need for an insert
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You would still have to redesign all the pins out there and your suggestion does not account for how you hold the pin firmly and accurately in place, yet make it easy to change pin and also account for the fact that some pins have a flat face design, while others are piloted.
 
Kim Bye said:
You would still have to redesign all the pins out there and your suggestion does not account for how you hold the pin firmly and accurately in place, yet make it easy to change pin and also account for the fact that some pins have a flat face design, while others are piloted.
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Both end should have a allen key, in case the pin stays with the shaft when you unscrew the cue. You would loose the flat face design to accomodate the piloted shafts, with added features, there would also be compromises.
 
fish2 said:
Both end should have a allen key, in case the pin stays with the shaft when you unscrew the cue. You would loose the flat face design to accomodate the piloted shafts, with added features, there would also be compromises.
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Not the most elegant of ideas, but that would be the most obvious, yet crude way to do it.
 
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