Butterfly Points????????

BLACKHEARTCUES

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In 20 years of making Qs, I've never tryed to make one with butterfly points. I like the look that's achieved with them, but very seldom do I see them line up even. Do you make the slices, when the wood is still in the square & how do you clamp the pieces without having them slide? I want to try something different...THANKS...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
In 20 years of making Qs, I've never tryed to make one with butterfly points. I like the look that's achieved with them, but very seldom do I see them line up even. Do you make the slices, when the wood is still in the square & how do you clamp the pieces without having them slide? I want to try something different...THANKS...JER
If you want them dead even. Don't bother using a saw to cut your angled flats. Put the partially tapered forearm or handle or full butt on your lathe between centers, stand your router vertical and use a regular router bit to machine the flats on two sides using whatever offset you need. Then glue your veneers on and put back between centers and turn round. Provide nothing warps your butterlies will be even. This is slower but works great.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
cueman said:
If you want them dead even. Don't bother using a saw to cut your angled flats. Put the partially tapered forearm or handle or full butt on your lathe between centers, stand your router vertical and use a regular router bit to machine the flats on two sides using whatever offset you need. Then glue your veneers on and put back between centers and turn round. Provide nothing warps your butterlies will be even. This is slower but works great.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com

ummm..... What he said. =)
 
I think you can use a mill too. The square or octogon must be perfectly square for the points to even out. Make a wrapless one and I know a guy that 's looking for it.:D I haven't had a cue in a month and a half.

Andy
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
In 20 years of making Qs, I've never tryed to make one with butterfly points. I like the look that's achieved with them, but very seldom do I see them line up even. Do you make the slices, when the wood is still in the square & how do you clamp the pieces without having them slide? I want to try something different...THANKS...JER

Index fixture in the milling machine. Just like cutting V points but I use a straight bit. I'll send pictures of the set-up if you like.
 
Murray Tucker said:
Index fixture in the milling machine. Just like cutting V points but I use a straight bit. I'll send pictures of the set-up if you like.

Murray, I have thought about this for years & would really like to have you send me any help that you could. THANKS...JER
 
I use Chris' method for cutting the butterflys... indexing doean't pose a problem...Tried cutting up the square first, the block onhand should be centered properly, squared exactly,cut precisely at the same angle etc. Lots of prep to get it right... easier to glue up the veneers but requires more precision to line it up perfectly...
 
hadjcues said:
I use Chris' method for cutting the butterflys... indexing doean't pose a problem...Tried cutting up the square first, the block onhand should be centered properly, squared exactly,cut precisely at the same angle etc. Lots of prep to get it right... easier to glue up the veneers but requires more precision to line it up perfectly...
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So when will you have time to do a project? Hope we can meet up again anytime soon.
 
DawgAndy said:
I think you can use a mill too. The square or octogon must be perfectly square for the points to even out. Make a wrapless one and I know a guy that 's looking for it.:D I haven't had a cue in a month and a half.

Andy

Nobody told you to sell your Diveney...or did 'they'?
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
In 20 years of making Qs, I've never tryed to make one with butterfly points. I like the look that's achieved with them, but very seldom do I see them line up even. Do you make the slices, when the wood is still in the square & how do you clamp the pieces without having them slide? I want to try something different...THANKS...JER
Chris's method works great but must be very precise as all errors get attenuated by a factor of about 100 times because of low angle.
I got a mismatch by using milling equipment that was not as accurate as stated. Even a few thousanths of an inch difference in veneer thickness will show up.

Trueheart
 
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