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Buyers & Sellers Serious Question
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Thanks! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly right.
The thread that the OP is referring to stated very clearly that the deal was for the cue and the original shaft. The aftermarket shaft was at an additonal cost. But "Ingo" can't read very well, so he ASSumed that he was getting two shafts.
Reading comprehension is a beautiful thing......
Is this a trick question? I would expect a cue with 1 shaft.
I would expect to pay extra for the aftermarket shaft.
You really don't read goodly does you?
did everyone skip this post? i'm on my phone so I can't verify the times....
TheThaiger
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It is impossible to judge without the PMs and clarification on the edited OP. I won't be harsh on the buyer until they're known.
But *if* the seller said "it'll be the cue AND the original shaft", then that's ambiguous at best, and potentially calculating.
We also don't know what the original offer was - if the buyer offered $500 for both shafts, the seller might decline. If the seller thought the buyer was offering $500 for just the original cue, he'd snatch his hand off. In other words, both parties would think they had a good deal, with both parties misunderstanding the other's position.
Man, I'm a loss to the legal profession.
But *if* the seller said "it'll be the cue AND the original shaft", then that's ambiguous at best, and potentially calculating.
We also don't know what the original offer was - if the buyer offered $500 for both shafts, the seller might decline. If the seller thought the buyer was offering $500 for just the original cue, he'd snatch his hand off. In other words, both parties would think they had a good deal, with both parties misunderstanding the other's position.
Man, I'm a loss to the legal profession.
The listing was made on the 22nd, the edit was on the 24th, but the cue wasn't sold until at least January 30th as evidenced by the remainder of the posts. As others have said, without the pm's it is impossible to tell.
But, based on the post in its current form, it is very easy to tell that the OB shaft costs extra and one should not expect to receive it without paying more. Tony I. posted to the thread after the 24th so without any additional information I would assume he knew what was happening (again without knowing the pm's it's hard to tell).
Also, if what jbbilliards said is true, that is pretty shady that he was sent a negative iTrader/feedback without the buyer trying to work it out. I'm sure if it was a misunderstanding it could have been taken care of. Send the cue back in same condition, get your money back. That wasn't done, not to mention the fact that it was THREE MONTHS AGO and is just now being brought up. Let it go people.
I think the reason that this was even brought up now may be due to another thread, where another member is having issues with the same seller (FWIW, I think that the buyer in the other thread is off his rocker).
That being said, and letting this scenario stand alone, I just think it's odd that the original listing was modified AFTER the PM/offer was made. I'd be curious to know if the wording of the listing was changed AFTER offers were made.
Frankly, the thing to do would have been either A)add an addendum to the listing re-clarifying the items/prices, B)ask that the thread be deleted, and start another one, or C)mark the original thread as "NO SALE", and start another.
My thoughts are, if the numbers/prices weren't changed, then why does the seller need to clarify what's being purchased/shipped ??
Call me kooky, but changing ANYTHING in the listing after offers have come in, just doesn't seem right to me...
But yeah, without the PM's, who knows what the hell happened...
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Jbbilliards you lie 
Caught in a lie ?
I accepted the offer in a PM CLEARLY stating the CUE will come with
the ORIGINAL SHAFT ONLY (JBBilliards this is a lie)
Buyer PM me paypal money has been sent
THATS WHAT HAPPENED FOLKS
(JBBilliards this is a lie)
If that was not what he was expecting why didnt he ask for a refund???
2 weeks later or so, I get red flagged... really... (JBBilliards this is a lie too)
Originally Posted by jbbilliards1
This is what I can offer you, if it doesnt work out Ill put this thing on ebay
Ill do the cue + the original shaft for $460 Shipped Paypal must be gifted to my account to avoid fees.
Believe me bro, Im not making anything on this cue, your son is gonna get a stunner of a cue. The cue is cherry hasnt seen 2 weeks of play, everything is straight and perfect.
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This is the listing he is talking about:
I underlined and put in BOLD that the cue is coming with the original shaft in a private message and the the OB shaft will cost extra (JBBilliards this is a lie too)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showth...jacoby+pointer
Caught in a lie ?
I accepted the offer in a PM CLEARLY stating the CUE will come with
the ORIGINAL SHAFT ONLY (JBBilliards this is a lie)
Buyer PM me paypal money has been sent
THATS WHAT HAPPENED FOLKS
(JBBilliards this is a lie)
If that was not what he was expecting why didnt he ask for a refund???
2 weeks later or so, I get red flagged... really... (JBBilliards this is a lie too)
Originally Posted by jbbilliards1
This is what I can offer you, if it doesnt work out Ill put this thing on ebay
Ill do the cue + the original shaft for $460 Shipped Paypal must be gifted to my account to avoid fees.
Believe me bro, Im not making anything on this cue, your son is gonna get a stunner of a cue. The cue is cherry hasnt seen 2 weeks of play, everything is straight and perfect.
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This is the listing he is talking about:
I underlined and put in BOLD that the cue is coming with the original shaft in a private message and the the OB shaft will cost extra (JBBilliards this is a lie too)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showth...jacoby+pointer
Clearly you guys misunderstood each other about the deal. When you received the cue with only the original shaft (ie not what you were expecting), did you reach back out to the seller to let him know something was missing? Did you ask to send the cue back for a refund since what you received isn't what you were expecting?
IMO, the seller only did something wrong here if and only if you asked for a refund and he refused. If on the other hand, you did nothing other than leave bad rep, the seller really did nothing wrong.
People post up pictures of multiple cues and then describe that they are only selling "this cue" and the others are not for sale. This is where common sense comes into play and the potential buyer needs to ask questions to discern exactly what is for sale. If the buyer is not clear, they need to ask the proper questions of the seller.
Its really quite simple, and to bring it up again after three months just shows that your only intention is to bash the seller. That in my opinion is really stupid and if I were him, I would give you red rep right back.
Why did you not just return the cue and get your money back if you were not happy with the deal??
I don't understand ......... Please clarfiy for me.
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Yes, I let him know I was not happy, & he did nothing to try to make me happy!
I did NOT give him negative Feedback on his I-Trader.
I think I might now Probably is not worth my time.
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Yes, I let him know I was not happy, & he did nothing to try to make me happy!
I did NOT give him negative Feedback on his I-Trader.
I think I might now
Probably is not worth my time.
I let him know I was not happy
I let him know I was not happy! He did nothing to help, He did not offer money back.
I did NOT leave NEGATIVE feedback!
I let him know I was not happy! He did nothing to help, He did not offer money back.
I did NOT leave NEGATIVE feedback!