Buying a used table

Klink

Klink

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I am looking to buy a good used table and need advice. I am looking more for a good playing table than anything else. I like the look of the Gold Crown 1 and some of the older Brunswicks but am open to any excellent playing table. Is there anything in particular I should be on the look out for, or to stay away from. What are the easiest ways to tell if a table is worth restoring or buying? Any recommendations on tables other than Brunswicks? What can I expect to pay to have a table set up correctly (not a hack job). I would think new rails, 860 cloth, and I know of course any un-seen repairs are extra (that is what I want to stay away from).
Thanks for any help or advice, Mike
 
Klink said:
I am looking to buy a good used table and need advice. I am looking more for a good playing table than anything else. I like the look of the Gold Crown 1 and some of the older Brunswicks but am open to any excellent playing table. Is there anything in particular I should be on the look out for, or to stay away from. What are the easiest ways to tell if a table is worth restoring or buying? Any recommendations on tables other than Brunswicks? What can I expect to pay to have a table set up correctly (not a hack job). I would think new rails, 860 cloth, and I know of course any un-seen repairs are extra (that is what I want to stay away from).
Thanks for any help or advice, Mike
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That depends largely on your budget for spending;)

Glen
 
The budget is around $1700 for the table plus set up and delivery.
Thanks
Ps But I also know how budgets are
 
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I recommend the GC 1 or the GC II. The GC III are priced higher that a lot of the GC II's an thay are not as solid a table. But it might be hard to find a nice GC at that price point. I might search for a Brunswick Sport King they older table similar to the Anniversary table but a lot cheaper.
 
DJBilliards said:
I recommend the GC 1 or the GC II. The GC III are priced higher that a lot of the GC II's an thay are not as solid a table. But it might be hard to find a nice GC at that price point. I might search for a Brunswick Sport King they older table similar to the Anniversary table but a lot cheaper.
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Don,

Don't you have some Brunswick Medalist for sale as well? They are a good playing table and I see them often in the $800-$1200 range.

Jay
 
Klink said:
I am looking to buy a good used table and need advice. I am looking more for a good playing table than anything else. I like the look of the Gold Crown 1 and some of the older Brunswicks but am open to any excellent playing table. Is there anything in particular I should be on the look out for, or to stay away from. What are the easiest ways to tell if a table is worth restoring or buying? Any recommendations on tables other than Brunswicks? What can I expect to pay to have a table set up correctly (not a hack job). I would think new rails, 860 cloth, and I know of course any un-seen repairs are extra (that is what I want to stay away from).
Thanks for any help or advice, Mike
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I have a GC3 with new Artemis cushions, 4 1/2" pockets in good condition, drop pockets, balls & rack included, $2,500 I did the rebuild on the rails, and Simonis 860 Tour blue cloth;) Where you're located...South Carolina?
 
A-1 billiards said:
Don,

Don't you have some Brunswick Medalist for sale as well? They are a good playing table and I see them often in the $800-$1200 range.

Jay
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I don't have any Medalist right now. I have my hands full and my brothers hands full with the GC's and a Centennial right now. But I agree a Medalist would be a good playing table in that price range and easier to find that a sports king.

Don
 
I've got some 9' Medalists. I work nights with a guy who owns a bar. City screwed him when he opened up and told him he'd have to take down half of his tables to be considered a bar/pub, otherwise he'd be a pool room and they'd yank his liquor license.

Anyway...he's got 10 Medalists and an old Brunswick Balke Collander 9'. Wants $11,000 for the whole lot, but I'd say you could pick up one of them if it's worth the drive to you. I think he wants $1500 individually. No real work needed. Rails play good. They'd just need set up and recovered.

PM me if you'd be interested. Give me an idea where you're at and I'll give you a quote for delivery and installation as well if you want it.

Thanks!

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Thanks for the information. What are the main differences between the Medalist table and the Gold Crowns.
 
Klink said:
Thanks for the information. What are the main differences between the Medalist table and the Gold Crowns.
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Some of you older Brunswick installers may remember when the medalist came out. Mike Sigel was a rep. for them at the time and the promotion had Mike saying there was a lot of gold crown built into this table.

IMO, the biggest difference would be weight. It has a substancially
lighter frame assembly. The returns are also noticeably lighter and
do not use the same gully boot system as the crown. Also different
would be the lack ofa center leg stretcher and some cosmetic
differences.

The medalist had a option of two different rail assy. One was a formica
and the other was a finished wood rail which looked great but not
hold up as well in commercial use. Overall a good table.
 
The FRAME

Klink said:
Thanks for the information. What are the main differences between the Medalist table and the Gold Crowns.
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The medalist had several major differences and a few minor. The first and most important is the frame is a out rigger type used on many of their less expensive tables. The leg has no leveling device (adjustable legs) you use shims to level. The rails have no castings at the side pocket, the side pockets are nailed in rather than screwed in like the corners.

As far as the play of the table, very similar to a Gold Crown 3 if the rubber is good, The table does have a center stretcher between the legs.

They are a great alternative to a GC 3 especially for home use.

Jay
 
Thanks for the correction on the center stretcher Jay. Been a while since
i have seen one of these. Medalist was a nice table.
 
scruffy1 said:
Thanks for the correction on the center stretcher Jay. Been a while since
i have seen one of these. Medalist was a nice table.
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Had a dozen in my last pool room. Held up to heavy play with no problems.

The main thing with the Medalists was BAD rubber installed to high from the factory...:angry: New Super Speed and the tables played great..:thumbup:

Jay
 
realkingcobra said:
I have a GC3 with new Artemis cushions, 4 1/2" pockets in good condition, drop pockets, balls & rack included, $2,500 I did the rebuild on the rails, and Simonis 860 Tour blue cloth;) Where you're located...South Carolina?
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Is that 2500$ delivered and set up personally by you? :grin:
 
Good information. You say no leg leveling on a Medalist to use shims. Does this mean you have to level the slate to the room and if moved from its original position the only way to re-level would be to uncover the slate and then relevel?
 
No, It means the leveling of the legs is done with shims. The slates are always leveled with shims or adjusters regardless if the table uses shims under the leg or has an adjustable foot. If you move the table you would have to replace the shims under the foot of the table. The slates would remain flat if properly installed. The table can also be leveled (shimmed) between the top of the leg pedestal and the frame.

Jay
 
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