CaliRed's recommendation for a ScreenShot Program

"CaliRed".

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I have been in the IT field for the past 20 years, pretty much dealing with all areas of it. I love it so much, that I spend a great deal of time working with pc's after work too.:smile: A primary interest of mine has always been experimenting with all the software out there.

I would like to recommend a screen shot program for you today. This is for Windows Users only. Sorry, no Mac. There are many screen shot programs out there on the market, both free and paid. There are also programs that are included with your Operating System, such as Paint (which after all these years, finally got a facelift in Windows 7) and new with Windows 7, is the Snipping Tool.

The screen shot programs are either very basic programs that only allow you to do very basic screen shots, or they're so bloated with features that they are difficult to use. I am suggesting Greenshot for several reasons.

1. It is a very small program, only about 1 mb.
2. It does all of the most important functions of taking a screenshot, and that's it.
3. The interface is very easy to learn and is nicely laid out, not cluttered up with all kinds of junk.
4. It's open source (free) and is actively still being developed.

We use it over at onepocket.org a lot, because it allowed us to diagram shots from screenshots of matches that were from DVD's or streams. You can open a image file and then draw arrows diagramming your choice of shots, save it, then upload it.

It's always been a little odd to me, that when a person suggests a program or a method of doing something a particular way, there are always several people that pipe in with comments, in this case, such as " I just use Paint, works fine for me" As stated above, I know there are many programs and ways of taking a screen shot, the point of this post is to alert you to a program, that if you try, I think you would make it your screen shot program of choice.

To support my recommendation, I have taken the time to showcase the features and to give you my reasons of why I think it is a invaluable tool. My recommendation is not to say there aren't other ways or programs that may do generally the same thing or do more or do less. I welcome anyone's feedback on what they use, but in order to contribute a meaningful post, you need to install this program, learn to use it to some extent, and then explain why you think you would rather stick with your original program, then go with this one.:smile:

Over the past 2 decades, dealing with users of all different levels of knowledge and comfortability with PC's, from family members to co-workers, to people that have a fair amount of experience, I have found a interesting behavior when it comes to software. It seems that once a person learns how to use a particular program or a specific method of doing something, they become "stuck" with that. They will not even entertain the thought of trying a different program, they just say their current program does the job. These people with closed minds, are really missing out on a lot when it comes to what they could be doing. I've seen people still using programs developed back in the Windows 95 days, just because it's what they got used to and they refuse to even try anything else. One guy sticks out in my mind. He always used Cardfile for his contacts. This was something back in the Windows 3.1 days, but he refused to ever convert it over to the current Contact variations.

I am constantly scouring all software available, to find the best program for each job at hand and which one would appeal to each group of PC users depending on their needs and knowledge.

So in regards to this program, all I ask is that you try it, play around with it a bit, then if you don't like it, just uninstall it:smile: Then come on here and tell us why you don't like it or why you did like it. So try and keep that in mind when you reply.... this thread isn't about what you use for a screen shot program, it's me suggesting a specific program, that I think you would love. Consequently, the only way you can tell me if you don't like it, is to actually install it and play around with it:D

A screen shot program to me, needs to be able to perform several functions. It must be able to capture a specific area of the screen, you should be able to include text boxes, arrows and be able to draw boxes or different shapes. It must also be able to capture anything on the screen. (some programs wont' capture menus from right clicks or videos from streams) You should also be able to save in several different file formats.

These are the most important features to me, as I deal with creating tutorials extensively, and being able to highlight different areas, use text and arrows to point them out. These features are at the heart of screen shots for that purpose.

So if you've made it this far.. here is the home page of Greenshot.:D and here is the direct download link to it. I make a few changes to the Preferences once I'm done.
[EDIT:] It looks like I'm going to have to research the issue with Vbulletin making these look so blurry. All of these files are under the 100kb limit, so it shouldn't have to re-encode them. They are sharp and clear as the original, but once you upload, Vbulletin converts them to .jpg , no matter whether you save as .gif or .png. I'll update this thread once I figure out what the issue is. You can insert these into most anything else and they stay sharp and clear.


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I hope you will give it a try and after doing so, please come back and tell us all what you liked or didn't like about it. It's a great way of diagramming shots, when you would rather use the actual image of the balls on the table, rather then to try to place them accurately on a WEI table.

Cheers !
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the software is built in to windows..

press the print screen button then open Paint and click edit>paste or ctrl-v

and it's perfect then all you need to do is possibly resize it

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the software is built in to windows..

press the print screen button then open paint and click edit>paste or ctrl-v

and it's perfect then all you need to do is possibly resize it

hehe...to prove my point, the very first reply.:D

Now do you see why what I wrote, bears out in real life?:smile:

And I'm sorry, but I got a really big chuckle out your comment of "the software is built into Windows". I've only been up to my elbows in every intimate detail and function of windows, since windows 3.1.:D

FAIL!

CaliRed said:
It's always been a little odd to me, that when a person suggests a program or a method of doing something a particular way, there are always several people that pipe in with comments, in this case, such as " I just use Paint, works fine for me" As stated above, I know there are many programs and ways of taking a screen shot, the point of this post is to alert you to a program, that if you try, I think you would make it your screen shot program of choice.

CaliRed said:
So in regards to this program, all I ask is that you try it, play around with it a bit, then if you don't like it, just uninstall it Then come on here and tell us why you don't like it or why you did like it. So try and keep that in mind when you reply.... this thread isn't about what you use for a screen shot program, it's me suggesting a specific program, that I think you would love. Consequently, the only way you can tell me if you don't like it, is to actually install it and play around with it
 
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And I'm sorry, but I got a really big chuckle out your comment of "the software is built into Windows". I've only been up to my elbows in every intimate detail and function of windows, since windows 3.1.:D

FAIL!

3.1 had paint.. it's the simplest program on the planet.. my 4 year old is proficient with paint.. when I teach new users how to use computers the first program I teach them is paint..

if Paint is too "complicated" perhaps you shouldn't claim to be a computer expert

just sayin
 
3.1 had paint.. it's the simplest program on the planet.. my 4 year old is proficient with paint.. when I teach new users how to use computers the first program I teach them is paint..

wow! You've shown from your very first post in this thread, you're having a reading comprehension problem.

First, I mention in my original post that there will be posters that will come into this thread and talk about how they use Paint. I also state that I realize there are other programs that do screen captures.

I've already posted some of this for you already, but you still choose to either ignore it, or you don't understand it.

can you do me a huge favor and READ these excerpts of what I wrote?

CaliRed said:
There are also programs that are included with your Operating System, such as Paint (which after all these years, finally got a facelift in Windows 7) and new with Windows 7, is the Snipping Tool.

CaliRed said:
It's always been a little odd to me, that when a person suggests a program or a method of doing something a particular way, there are always several people that pipe in with comments, in this case, such as " I just use Paint, works fine for me" As stated above, I know there are many programs and ways of taking a screen shot, the point of this post is to alert you to a program, that if you try, I think you would make it your screen shot program of choice.

CaliRed said:
My recommendation is not to say there aren't other ways or programs that may do generally the same thing or do more or do less.

CaliRed said:
So in regards to this program, all I ask is that you try it, play around with it a bit, then if you don't like it, just uninstall it Then come on here and tell us why you don't like it or why you did like it. So try and keep that in mind when you reply.... this thread isn't about what you use for a screen shot program, it's me suggesting a specific program, that I think you would love. Consequently, the only way you can tell me if you don't like it, is to actually install it and play around with it

Thank you, you've also provided me another chuckle.... your line of "when I teach new users how to use computers the first program I teach them is paint" That's funny!!!!

New PC user - "I don't know anything about this computer, I don't even know how to get on the sites... what do they call it?? Internet?

softshot - No... don't worry about any of that....The most important thing I want you to learn is Paint. That's the first thing we're going to learn about the computer.. Look, see that.. I just drew a line! Look, I can use this paint brush and draw a paint stroke.

softshot said:
if Paint is too "complicated" perhaps you shouldn't claim to be a computer expert

just sayin

hehe !!! more great stuff. Thanks for the :smile: and the :D ! Where, ANYWHERE, in my post, did I EVER mention that I

A - wasn't aware of a program called Paint?

B. - didn't know how to use this program called Paint?

hmmmm... Let's see what's happened so far

CaliRed says this......

1. I make a post to recommend a program for taking screen shots.
2. I make it clear that Paint comes with Windows and that there are many different screen shot programs
3. I explain that I am recommending this program over many of the other ones, for several reasons and list them and also create a image that demonstrates it's feature and the simple interface and why I like it over the other ones.
4. I relate my experience that when someone suggests a software program such as a screen shot program, that there will be people come in and make posts such as " I just use Paint, works fine for me"
5. I specifically ask for people NOT to post that they use this program or that one, I ask that they TRY this program and then come back and say what they liked or didn't like, compared to what the normally use.
6. in response to softshots very funny remark that Paint is built in to windows, to explain what that little revelation was so funny to me, I mention I've been working up to my elbows in windows since the 3.1 days

softshot happens in on this thread and offers the following nuggets of information in response to my post.

1. Paint is built in to windows..
2. Paint was in windows 3.1
3. Paint is easy to use
4. Paint is the very first thing he teaches somebody on the computer
5. He believes that Paint may be too complicated for me

now lets see what useful information out of those 5, pertain to the OP's thread.

1. I already know Paint is built into Windows - I even said that it was. Several times. Even though I asked for people NOT to come in and tell me they use Paint, that I wanted them to TRY this program and THEN tell us what they thought, the VERY first person that replied said what????....Guess!!!.
2. who ever said Paint was not in windows 3.1? Show me where that is stated.
3. Who said Paint is difficult to use? Where is that stated?
4. well, on this point.. I don't know what to say.. I still got a sh1t eating grin going on:D
5. He caught me. I can't use Paint. I can get the program open, but I have not one clue what to do from there. There's a guy in the phonebook that has a ad that says

" Too stupid to use Paint? People making fun of you on the Internet about you not knowing how to use Paint? Come back off the ledge, I can help!!" Make a appointment with Joe's Paint for F*$&#ing Morons" In just 3 days, I can make you a super user at Paint!

My workshop includes.....

* Day 1 - showing you where Paint is hidden in Windows. That's right, Paint is FREE for you, I will unlock the secret of where it is. Also included in Day 1, I will show you how to hit one key on your keyboard to take a EXACT duplicate copy of EVERYTHING on your screen. BONUS Lesson!!! The history of Paint and Windows!

* Day 2 - I will show you how to make a lines, circles, text, and make big wide paint brush strokes. You will amaze your friends! By the end of the day, you will make those big yellow smilie faces, ALL BY YOURSELF !!!

*Day 3 - you've built a masterpiece, now what? I will teach you how to SAVE what you made!!!!. That's right, you can SAVE it EXACTLY the way it looks... forever and ever!!!! I will teach you how to NAME your file, so you can find it again. Yes, you can NAME the file ANYTHING you want!!!! You can call it earth or sun or .... get this!!!!!.... you can even call it Iamnottostupidtousepaintanymore I know... worth the price right there!!!! I am not lying.. it's possible!!!!

so stop those Internet bullies from making fun of you. You no longer have to make up excuses of why you have to leave the party, when everyone is making stuff in Paint and it's almost you're turn. No MORE!!! After my workshop, you will be the life of the party! The girls will be fighting over you because of what you know!!! The guys will be giving you riding shotgun for life!!!

All this for the low price of 839.00 per day. You can't paint, but you can READ right??? I said only 839.00 a DAY!!! Book now, spots are filling fast. This offer good for the next 12 hours. Hurry!!!! Stop being the loser, and BE THE PAINTER!!!



 
I'm still wondering why this whole conversation is happening on a pool forum..

p.s. your screenshots look cheezy and low budget.. if you intend to make money off of the results get some professional software..

if you can't afford photoshop learn how to use GIMP..yes it's more complicated..but it will give you big kid results
 
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I have Snagit.

It seams to work pretty good.

What do you think about that one?

FYI...got it free from work
 
I'm still wondering why this whole conversation is happening on a pool forum..

p.s. your screenshots look cheezy and low budget.. if you intend to make money off of the results get some professional software..

if you can't afford photoshop learn how to use GIMP..yes it's more complicated..but it will give you big kid results

With great regret, I have came to the conclusion that you don't actually read what people write in their posts. I'm thinking you just actually pick a few keywords out, maybe 5 total, and then reply based on a fictional story that you come up with. Because there has been not one thing you've said in here that has anything to do with anything. Everything you say, is the direct opposite of what is fact. It's downright weird.

I say Paint is included with Windows and there are many other screen capture programs, but this is one I would like for you to try and see how you like it.

You say Paint is built into windows

I say I've been working with every intimate detail and function in windows since the 3.1 days

You say Windows 3.1 has Paint in it

That's really wacky stuff you got going on there softshot. It's like you just say random stuff that has no meaning to the conversation at hand.

It's like me saying "It sure is cold today"

You say "Wine IS made from grapes"

I'll play the game one more time, but that's it.

in answer to your first question, the answer lies in the sentence in the original post that starts with the words.. We use

in answer to your opinion stated below your question, the answer to that lies in the maroon colored text that starts with [Edit:] in the original post. As far as the 2nd part of that.. once again, please state where it says anywhere about anyone making any money off of anything. I post a recommendation about a screen shot program that can be used to demonstrate pool shots from screen caps of dvd's or streams. The software is FREE.. where is there money mentioned anywhere about anything (Note to self: Am I being trolled here? This stuff is so far out there, that its going from funny as hell, to what the hell:D)

as far as your statement about image editing software such as Photoshop and Gimp.... not sure, ONCE AGAIN, what that has to do with anything in this thread. This thread is about people installing a SCREEN CAPTURE program, trying it out for a bit, THEN replying with their comments, whether they be good or bad or indifferent regarding that software compared to the one they're currently using.

Everything you've stated so far (putting aside the fact that nothing you've said in this thread so far, has anything to do with what the OP started it for) leads me to believe that you fall in the group of people that I warn everyone about when I'm working on their PC's or just helping them out with a question.

I always warn them that PC help is just like Pool. Every person in the world, has several friends or family members, that are "self proclaimed experts" at it. I could walk into any bar, act like I don't know how to play pool, and I'll have half the bar telling me how to shoot pool correctly. I'll be laughing my guts out at all the crazy wild stuff they tell you, and then watch them not be able to run more then one ball at a time, have no clue on how to get shape for even the next ball and have the most whacked out stroke and stance you've ever seen.

The same goes for PC's. You can ask a simple question like my clock keeps going back a hour even though I change it to the right time. The response are hilarious. Of course they always start out with the empty your cache and temp files, then it goes to suggesting things like registry cleaners and optimizers and adware/spyware/malware/virus tools, then onto the "just download a clock widget" (thats funny as hell) and then it's time for "Just format your hard drive and wipe it clean"

I think it's all part of the "guy thing". Every guy thinks he's supposed to be a expert at pool, computers, and cars. uhh... oh, also, guns, fishing, and driving, then building something, directions and sports, then *, *, *, *, *, *, * ,* ,* *

but that's all from me on this! You tool right along with your Paint program that is (hmmmm coincidentally which is so easy to use that a 4 year old can:smile:) and make sure you NEVER EVER try anything different. Same with that old Notepad (that comes built in windows), no need to get anything more robust, notepad lets you type in words, what else do you need. Same with the Photo Viewer (comes built in windows)it can open most pics.. what more do you need then to be able see the picture.

{authors note:} you know the funniest thing about this whole thread so far, is that I told everyone what was going to happen in advance. I told you there would be some people come in and say "I use Paint, it works for me". and GUESS how long it took? it was the first reply and took all of 27 minutes.:D
 
Blah blah

What in god's holy name are you blathering about???

what does this have to do with Pool?

I get it your kid is a first year programmer and you are trying to drum up downloads for a sales pitch. somewhere down the road

it's weak and .. IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE !!!!!

BUY AN AD!!!!!!

and get someone to make you a modern banner it's not 1995 anymore..
 
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I might give it a look if I didn't already have photoshop. Of course, photoshop's pretty expensive so you'd have to already have a copy, you wouldn't get it just for screencaps.
 
Thanks Calired. Will check out the software. I use IrfanView but it's kind of a pain. QQ instant messenger has a pretty decent interface for screenshots as well but I haven't played with it yet. All the Chinese love it.

Edit: Downloaded it in under minute and installed it. LOVE IT - works WAY BETTER than Paint/Gimp/IrfanView/PSP/Photoshop and Corel which I have all of.

I LOVE small software that really works for a specific purpose like this. LOVE IT. Don't have to open any bloatware and gets the job done quickly.

I predict that I will be using this a lot.
 
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John - thanks for trying it out - my most important tip for first time users is.. once you draw a object, hit the selection icon next, or you will start making another object when you click our mouse somewhere

Denny - you're welcome

CreeDo- Photoshop is a $600 professional image editing program. It is not a screen capture program. It would require you to use the very basic and limited built in capture process in Windows, which is either just hitting the Prt Screen button to capture your entire screen to the clipboard, or using Alt+Prt Screen to capture the active window. Once your capture is in the clipboard, you can paste into any image editing program to edit.

Greenshot is a combination of a screen capture program AND a basic image editor. It eliminates having to capture a entire screen or a entire active window and then open up another program to edit it. After installing it, just hitting the Prt Screen button allows you to select exactly what you want to capture and one mouse click later, you're already ready to start editing it if you wish.

H. Nut - Snag it would probably fall into the products that are more on the bloated side. Consider Greenshot being a 1 mb download and Snag it being a 31 mb download. There are some cool features in snag it... I'm sure the demo version probably has some restrictions on it that restrict what it can do. This company makes a great product for doing screen recordings - Camtasia Studio. As stated in my original post.. there are many screen capture programs, both free and paid.

My post is a nothing more than a recommendation of a screen capture program based upon my knowledge and experience of what program would fulfill most peoples needs in that dept. It's based upon it's ease of use, it's feature set and it's price (free)

The only way this post could be useful to anyone, is for them to try the program and then they could compare it against what they currently use.

I also noted that from my experience, it is like pulling teeth to get anyone to try something different, even though it takes 5 seconds to download, 20 seconds to install, 15 mins of playing around and 10 seconds to uninstall.

I also stated that it is very useful to the pool community, as you can easily diagram shots from screen grabs of dvd's or streams.

Because its popular over at onepocket.org, I created a tutorial about a year ago on how to use it, which goes into a very detailed explanation on how to use it. If anyone is interested in viewing a tutorial, you can go here to watch it. The tutorial is meant for some of these older guys that have very limited computer experience, so those of you that are proficient at pc's can skip thru some parts of it.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL61F1895B9A6D61FF&feature=viewall
 
thanx Cali..

..another thread I subscribe to..

regards
pt..<.needs all the help he can get
 
Thanks for sharing your experience with us, CaliRed.

It is appreciated by far more people than those who would shoot you down.
 
I just downloaded it and tried it out. Didn't care for it.

thanks for the detailed explanation of what you didn't like about it.:smile:

Based upon the fact that all it does is take screen shots and allows you to create text boxes, draw shapes, highlight text, draw arrows and lines, obfuscate/blur out a area, and crop, not sure what there is to "not care for". Perhaps you mistakenly thought it did something else?

But as stated in the original post, could you please share with us WHY you like/dislike the program? What program do you normally use and what is it that you like about that one, after comparing it to greenshot?
 
I couldn't figure out where to resize objects. I didn't think there were that many options either but maybe because I'm used to using SnagIt at work. I haven't even looked at MS Paint in a long time but I see the Windows7 verision I have looks pretty cool.

A month or so ago I downloaded a free version of FastStone Image Viewer and thought it worked well. Maybe you should try it
 
I couldn't figure out where to resize objects. I didn't think there were that many options either but maybe because I'm used to using SnagIt at work. I haven't even looked at MS Paint in a long time but I see the Windows7 verision I have looks pretty cool.

A month or so ago I downloaded a free version of FastStone Image Viewer and thought it worked well. Maybe you should try it

Resizing a object follows the same procedure that is used in almost all windows programs. Select object - object now has little markers on it - click a marker and drag to resize. Easy as pie!

It appears that Faststone is several apps - image editor, scanner, screencapture, image viewer. I have have separate apps for those functions, that's why I like Greenshot. Does 1 thing... captures a screenshot and allows you to do basic editing to it.

Thanks for taking the time to try it:smile:

EDIT: I can see using green and black doesn't work to well with the way vbulletin re-encodes the image.. lesson learned

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I've been using Snippet for a while.. It came as part of Win7, I like it quite a bit.. JMHO
 
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