Can I get a quote on a plain jane, painted black wrapless butt (no shaft).

Thanks Brent! I was trying to remember how I know you! it was actually a year ago I was trying to help you with that spreadsheet for your cue expo last October. Wow...time flies.

Anyway, yes, the operative word is PREFERABLY. And if remedial math serves me, or perhaps I should have put it plainly for some, I would like the butt construction to fall around 15-15.5 oz without a shaft.
LOL
and now i too remember how i know you
boy, the "old timers" is on the way
wait, it's already here
 
I use india ink to doctor old phenolic....the dye i use is an india ink based dye.....it comes in a powder form and boy its strong.......If you can afford to use just india ink it will be blacker than night in a cave......but india ink likes to mix with epoxy so you kind of have to clean the excess off before you start do sealers or clearcoat......at least thats been my experience.....maybe I just have bad luck...


.............I just saw manwon you stated after it dries.....I second that notion....let it sit for a day.....



I have aso used it on Phenolic it does work very well.
 
Craig you are correct. Everyone knows that I've used the India ink on more than a few cues. I'd like to also add that Brents suggestion is wonderful as well...a simple can of spray paint works great. I've used the Krylon black satin with wonderful results. Keeps you from having to run the black through your clearing guns. After clearing over the Krylon its flawless...even a deeper black than the ink.:smile:

Kevin, I must admit that I originally got the idea to use Indian Ink from a post I read by you. I was doing a refinish of a Predator cue that was solid Black with with Rings above and below the wrap. The finish applied by Predator had come off in sheets and it took a great deal of the Black with it leaving Maple exposed, and I mean Nasty looking Maple.

So I tried your idea and it worked very very well, so thanks ofr the suggestion.

Take Care
 
I have aso used it on Phenolic it does work very well.

lol....keep the cue tips handy....better yet I have found the little wedges women use to apply there makeup work even better...my wife hates when I steal them from here make up box....lol:rolleyes:
 
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I had to remove the OP from my ignore-list so I could get some insight as to what all the hub-bub was about. Nobody's bothered to 'quote' the OP so I couldn't read what he was asking. That's the way it works.
I never said I was politically correct, just honest.

So here's my response. I WOULD NOT entertain any notion of building this cue and it has nothing to do with personality conflicts. Please re-read what he's asking. Maple cue, neutrally balanced, slim taper to specs, 19oz. and no wght. bolt. Good luck with that. I see a 15oz cue unless you use a really, really big bumper.

I will admit though that the thread has offered some interesting sub-topics.
One being the difference btwn a cue-maker and a 'custom' cue-maker.
To respect the OP's sovereignty, I won't hijack his thread to address these sub-topics but will start a thread to address each of those that I find interesting and worth discussing.

Offering a cordial response to the OP for having invaded his thread, painting the cue will not take away from the hit, or 'feel' of the cue. Hit doesn't care about color, which would be cleared over anyway.
However, according to the late Ray Schuler, too much finish can stifle the hit. I agree.
Rattle-can black with a clear-coat and you're good to go."

I will say the strangest part of this text is that I have never spoken to you before, let alone asked you directly for a quote on a cue. Secondly, if all-maple construction isn't possible at 15 oz, then you could probably suggest something else like other reputable cuemakers have done via PM, as I was clearly open to suggestion:

TL;DR: Why am I on your 'ignore list' if we have never spoken before? Save us the drama.

You are correct in that we've never spoken, unless of course you consider an exchange on an internet forum to be the equivalent to the spoken word.
Then yes, we have spoken.

I didn't enter this thread for the purpose of quoting you a price on building a cue for you. That won't happen. You and I have different views and different values. You're not someone that I would build a cue for.

I came here to offer a point of consideration. I didn't have to say squat.
You first implied that you'd like "Just dense, straight grained, but good hitting maple" (and preferably without a wght. bolt). My post was intended to say that it wasn't likely to happen, given those conditions. Which meant that you should start exploring some of your other options. Hopefully you will.

Everything contained in my initial post was truthful and/or geared towards helping you, at least in answering your question. I had a feeling that it was going to be a mistake.

Seriously, you don't remember an exchange of posts that we had?
It's what lead me to feel that posting in this thread would be a mistake.
I gotta learn to go with my first instincts again. I haven't played in nearly a year and it's starting to take it's toll.

So.....you say: "save us the drama". OK I'll first tell you this, the reason you made my ignore-list is only btwn you & I. No one else is interested and it's none of their business anyway so I'll send you the link in a PM. I'm sure you can appreciate that. If you want to post it, you have my permission.
You were the OP in that thread as well and I offered an answer to your question there also but again, it didn't suit your fancy.
 
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Originally Posted by KJ Cues View Post
I had to remove the OP from my ignore-list so I could get some insight as to what all the hub-bub was about. Nobody's bothered to 'quote' the OP so I couldn't read what he was asking. That's the way it works.
I never said I was politically correct, just honest.

So here's my response. I WOULD NOT entertain any notion of building this cue and it has nothing to do with personality conflicts. Please re-read what he's asking. Maple cue, neutrally balanced, slim taper to specs, 19oz. and no wght. bolt. Good luck with that. I see a 15oz cue unless you use a really, really big bumper.

I will admit though that the thread has offered some interesting sub-topics.
One being the difference btwn a cue-maker and a 'custom' cue-maker.
To respect the OP's sovereignty, I won't hijack his thread to address these sub-topics but will start a thread to address each of those that I find interesting and worth discussing.

Offering a cordial response to the OP for having invaded his thread, painting the cue will not take away from the hit, or 'feel' of the cue. Hit doesn't care about color, which would be cleared over anyway.
However, according to the late Ray Schuler, too much finish can stifle the hit. I agree.
Rattle-can black with a clear-coat and you're good to go."



You are correct in that we've never spoken, unless of course you consider an exchange on an internet forum to be the equivalent to the spoken word.
Then yes, we have spoken.

I didn't enter this thread for the purpose of quoting you a price on building a cue for you. That won't happen. You and I have different views and different values. You're not someone that I would build a cue for.

I came here to offer a point of consideration. I didn't have to say squat.
You first implied that you'd like "Just dense, straight grained, but good hitting maple" (and preferably without a wght. bolt). My post was intended to say that it wasn't likely to happen, given those conditions. Which meant that you should start exploring some of your other options. Hopefully you will.

Everything contained in my initial post was truthful and/or geared towards helping you, at least in answering your question. I had a feeling that it was going to be a mistake.

Seriously, you don't remember an exchange of posts that we had?
It's what lead me to feel that posting in this thread would be a mistake.
I gotta learn to go with my first instincts again. I haven't played in nearly a year and it's starting to take it's toll.

So.....you say: "save us the drama". OK I'll first tell you this, the reason you made my ignore-list is only btwn you & I. No one else is interested and it's none of their business anyway so I'll send you the link in a PM. I'm sure you can appreciate that. If you want to post it, you have my permission.
You were the OP in that thread as well and I offered an answer to your question there also but again, it didn't suit your fancy.

omg...I DO remember you. The thread where you argued and picked fights with myself and like 4 other cuemakers, accusing AZ of lynch-mob mentality when really you were just posting like an a--hole and they responded. Yes, thank you for the link, I would have never remembered. Now knowing, it would be a service to the AZ community to post your attitude towards customers in that thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=126044. This time around I'm going to politely ask that you put me on your ignore list. GL with your future dealings in TELLING clients their wants.

Edit: for those of you sharing ideas and experience, understand that is the root of where my questions and intent comes from. To me there's a real value in the exchange, being generous with knowledge, and that's why I frequent the maker threads.
 
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Twice you've asked a question and twice I've offered my answer.
How can you say it's wrong unless you had some preconceived notion of what you thought was right? Simply stated, I offered an answer and it wasn't what you wanted to hear. At the end of the day, if you're not going to like the answer, then don't ask the question.
I'm baffled as to why you would do this. When asking a question, there are no wrong answers until one is proven to be right. If it's a question regarding a preference, then there are no wrong answers, just preferences. No one can be wrong for having a preference particularly when it's deemed to be wrong by you, the one that asked the question. What you're saying is that it's wrong because it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

You're welcome to consider this the updated and newly defined reason that you made my ignore list.
I don't need the name calling by you for providing my version of an answer to your question. Name calling has no place in an adult discussion. I learned that in 3rd grade. Obviously, you didn't.
You shouldn't talk about exchange/dialogue if there's the possibility of name-calling. It's not polite. Again, 3rd grade.
Also, to misconstrue the past to support your current agenda doesn't sit well with me either; you must be a Republican.

At any rate, since you're requested to be returned to my ignore-list, I will certainly accommodate you. Back in the box you go. Your posts have no place amongst those that I wish to read.
 
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