Carbide lathe insert ...
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Msc, enco and others sell similar type bits also.
WilleeCue said:
Willee, this profile looks very good for cutting wood, However, when calling the specified number I get the message - no such number, no such phone. I looked at a large number of MSC's inserts but see none with that specific profile that looks like it would be great for slicing wood as compared to normal inserts that are made for chipping metal.
Dick
rhncue said:Willee, this profile looks very good for cutting wood, However, when calling the specified number I get the message - no such number, no such phone. I looked at a large number of MSC's inserts but see none with that specific profile that looks like it would be great for slicing wood as compared to normal inserts that are made for chipping metal.
Dick
I found them at
http://www.pgstools.com/servlet/the-16359/TCGT-32.52-dsh-AK-Insert-for/Detail
Not so cheap, but they had them in stock.
We always refered to them as chip breakers. I am not sure if that is the real name or not. There are also smooth versions. The actual point of the cutter is smooth on the ones I have.qbilder said:
rhncue said:Willee, this profile looks very good for cutting wood, However, when calling the specified number I get the message - no such number, no such phone. I looked at a large number of MSC's inserts but see none with that specific profile that looks like it would be great for slicing wood as compared to normal inserts that are made for chipping metal.
Dick
The number has been edited to the correct one in the second photo ... sorry
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Designed for Aluminum
I checked their catalog info and this particular insert is designed for cutting aluminum. Aluminum can produce a stringy chip, hence the heavy chip breaker design. I would imagine it would work quite well for wood.
I checked their catalog info and this particular insert is designed for cutting aluminum. Aluminum can produce a stringy chip, hence the heavy chip breaker design. I would imagine it would work quite well for wood.
masonh said:
Oh Yeah ... it cuts better :thumbup:
The other type carbide inserts would tear the wood when cutting the ends.
This cutter will peal the wood off very cleanly in nice small chips.
(a little thin super glue always helps when cutting end grain)
I am sold on them ... (Thanks Lou)
They are a bit more fragile than the normal ones due to the thin edge and if you bump it against something metal it will chip.
As you can see I have bumped mine a few times.
Hi guys
I guess some of you may want to try that bit by now. I am Lou Olson by the way, in Cleveland Ohio. And thank you Willee for your help with the Cue Monster!
I have used those bits for over a year on plastic, wood, and aluminum with great results and the truth be told I have machined steel many times as well. Though it can chip on steel. If you stick to just cues with it they will last a long long time I am sure. There is also available that same bit with a tighter radius, more pointed. I just bought four of those bits yesterday before I gave the info to Willee. My dealer, the phone number Willee gave you, had four bits left of that size, and could get more. That tool bit comes in a box of ten from the wholesaler but there was no price advantage to buying that many, and they do last a long time.They also have different tool bit sizes and shapes with that same profile we need for wood, to fit many different holders. I think they have boring bar bits as well with that nice grind. You may have to send them a worn bit to match up if your holder is not so mainstream?
The name of the company is High Quality Tools. I am sorry I did not post all this myself, but I have been so besieged with other duties that my cuemaking has been taking a back seat. I also wanted someone besides myself to see the value in that grind. Thanks Willee for test driving it for me!
I guess some of you may want to try that bit by now. I am Lou Olson by the way, in Cleveland Ohio. And thank you Willee for your help with the Cue Monster!
I have used those bits for over a year on plastic, wood, and aluminum with great results and the truth be told I have machined steel many times as well. Though it can chip on steel. If you stick to just cues with it they will last a long long time I am sure. There is also available that same bit with a tighter radius, more pointed. I just bought four of those bits yesterday before I gave the info to Willee. My dealer, the phone number Willee gave you, had four bits left of that size, and could get more. That tool bit comes in a box of ten from the wholesaler but there was no price advantage to buying that many, and they do last a long time.They also have different tool bit sizes and shapes with that same profile we need for wood, to fit many different holders. I think they have boring bar bits as well with that nice grind. You may have to send them a worn bit to match up if your holder is not so mainstream?
The name of the company is High Quality Tools. I am sorry I did not post all this myself, but I have been so besieged with other duties that my cuemaking has been taking a back seat. I also wanted someone besides myself to see the value in that grind. Thanks Willee for test driving it for me!
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for those who like to save a dime or two, Harbor Freight Tools has the same/similar bits for sale. I've had them for a while and found out early that they are not for steel. They work fine with woods and phenolics.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39931
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39931
Harbor also has the same style holder/set in a 1/2" shank. item number=39933
The advantage to the larger size shank is that you can mill it's sides as needed to fit a variety of tool-posts. The larger inserts will probably be more readily available but at more money. I have a buddy that sells carbide tooling, actually he occasionally posts on here. Next time I speak with him I'll see if he can get us a deal on inserts.
Willee, that insert is the nuts. Thanx for sharing. The only drawback I see is turning to a DNP sq. shoulder.
The advantage to the larger size shank is that you can mill it's sides as needed to fit a variety of tool-posts. The larger inserts will probably be more readily available but at more money. I have a buddy that sells carbide tooling, actually he occasionally posts on here. Next time I speak with him I'll see if he can get us a deal on inserts.
Willee, that insert is the nuts. Thanx for sharing. The only drawback I see is turning to a DNP sq. shoulder.