But those things aren't very likely to happen you might say. You know what else isn't very likely to happen? Somebody accidentally or intentionally turning your case over upside down with the lid open to dump your cues.
Well, I certainly hope that people aren't INTENTIONALLY dumping their cues. You seem to like to make a lot of statements of fact that have no basis. The fact is that cues falling out of cases does happen. How often is unknown. Happened to me which is why I am even here. I bet a lot of you wish that it had never happened to me. Happened in front of Jerry Olivier as he was trying to show me a particularly nice cue that he had built for a sponsored player. At SBE the player tipped his case to get the cue out and all the cues came sliding out and all three of us dove for the cue parts and none of us could stop them from hitting the floor. The cue that Jerry had given to him a few hours earlier was now dinged up. On Jerry's behalf I set that player up with one of our cases and insured that at least the cues wouldn't be accidentally dumped on the floor again.
It may even be more likely to get stepped on or fallen on or run over than dumped upside down while open. To say yours protects better as a blanket statement is just incorrect. It protects better at some things, and not as well at others, and for that reason reasonable people could prefer one over the other according to their needs and preferences.
Well prove how it's incorrect then. Our case protects better and that's a fact. Again I invite you to come to my shop in Oklahoma City and test my cases against any other brand. You can live stream the testing and PROVE that what I said is not correct instead of just stating it here. Imagine how cool that would be to take that arrogant asshole John Barton down in his own shop live in front of the world? Let me know when you're coming and I will get the guest room ready.
Also not true. They are much more of a pain to get your cues into and out of for many people as an example.
It's painful to insert a cue into a hole? We can test that as well. But beyond that we are a CUSTOM shop so if a customer indicates that they have a hard time then we can BUILD the interior differently to accommodate their needs. AS WE ALREADY DO ON REQUEST. I will however make another video on this subject just to address this point.
And that is an incredibly important criteria for many people when it comes to who they would like to give their business to.
Correct, which is EXACTLY why I acknowledged that point.
Translation: only someone without much knowledge would buy a Whitten over my case. That simply isn't true though. They each have their very strong pros and cons, many of which having been mentioned in this thread, and each of the cases has more than their share of very knowledgeable people that prefer them as a result.
No, again you're being obtuse. I said that when evaluating which case to buy HAVING accurate information is important. When a person makes a decision based on KNOWLEDGE and DECIDES which trade-offs they can accept then it is an informed and justified decision. When someone posts INACCURATE information about a brand then it can lead to that brand being unfairly knocked or unfairly boosted in comparison to other brands. Again I remind you that the thread is titled WHITTEN vs JB CASES and was posted by a consumer interested in hearing about both. Anyone can give their opinions and facts and anyone else, INCLUDING ME, can address them.
Were you just searching for a thread where you could try to bash one of your biggest competitors and/or shamelessly pitch your cases to try to get sales, or what was the purpose for that search? Just curious.
Well first Whitten is not a big competitor. They are a co-existing brand that is ZERO threat to our business. Whitten sells every case he makes as do we. My biggest competitors are the knockoff brands who lie to their customers.
I don't need any more sales. We have all that we can handle. I came across the thread because of a post on Facebook touting Whitten above us and I was searching for Whitten's website. Normally I would answered when the post first appeared but I do miss some from time to time. I normally do not think about Whitten or any of my colleagues in the high-end case space and generally only mention them AFTER someone else has compared us inaccurately to them.
I can't know your intent but due to your wording and the way you went about it it didn't come across that way, at least to me. It came across as you finding an excuse to be able to try to trash one of your competitors, and an excuse to advertise and shamelessly plug your own product with a thinly disguised long sales pitch to try to get some sales.
Trash? I know more about how a Whitten case is built than anyone here because I have taken them apart, repaired and rebuilt them. Giving accurate and truthful facts about the differences compared to our work isn't trashing them. In fact I said clearly that Whitten cases are excellent and that my main issue is the lack of a padded interior. Which is my main issue with ANY brand that doesn't have a well-made padded interior.
Shamelessly "plug" my own brand in a thread SPECIFICALLY created by a customer asking SPECIFICALLY about how our brand compares to another brand? If I am not supposed to promote my brand in a thread like this in detail where SHOULD I be promoting it?
Thinly disguised sales pitch? There is no disguise. In a thread asking for comparison everything I say is a CLEAR sales pitch for our work. As I said though we don't NEED more sales at this time but that is no reason not to present accurate and detailed information about our work. Information that perhaps many did not know before reading this thread.
If the choice is between a Whitten and a JB Case then I will give as much information as I have in as much detail as I want to in order to let the prospective customer know why I think that the JB Case should be their choice. If we don't get the order then it won't be because the customer didn't have all the important information. Also, I don't just write for one person, I write for the readers. Just as you can criticize me and make statements of fact that are either untrue, inaccurate, or unsupported generalizations, I can rebut any point made and the readers can decide.
If people decide that I am an asshole and vow to never buy our case because they don't like how I present our products then that's their choice. I don't pander to people's feelings. I present the facts as I know them and let people choose as they wish to.
I like how someone else said it, "I don't care if JB is an asshole because I don't have to live with him. I want the best protection for my cues and that's what I get in a JB Case."
But I am really not an asshole. Just really passionate about making cool and protective cases.
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